I haven't posted on any of the boards for some time now. So I have let the time pass to let some mental stuff happen in my life as it always fucking does.
This one is going to take a few days though. I was going to start off with a clever haiku, but then my brain just gave up.
Last week or the week before, I cannot remember which now, I went from smoking crack to IV'ing 100% pure cocaine. I probably don't need to tell you that WOW it was fucking amazing. So much better than a pipe, but the frequency at which you have to inject is a killer. Anyone know anything about cannulas here?
Oh, and then at the weekend I thought my position in my intel based role had been compromised and had to spend the fucking weekend in a Premier Inn in a location so secret I didn't even know myself where I'd been dropped off. All properly arranged though but believe me it's fuck all like the movies and there's not a scrap of glamour to it.
I'm here for the next 15 minutes, that is if anyone is interested in speaking.
>>6961 > This seems legit.
I know, I had a bit of a chuckle at
>Oh, and then at the weekend I thought my position in my intel based role had been compromised and had to spend the fucking weekend in a Premier Inn in a location so secret I didn't even know myself where I'd been dropped off.
>Anyone know anything about cannulas here?
I'm quite familiar with nasal cannula, I highly recommend the Natus-embla brand, they're the industry standard for measuring airflow.
The more you people post on /A/ the more attention we pay to the site in general. That and certain key words. Obviously it's so slow these days that we mostly just outsource the analysis work overseas and then all have a chuckle at the poorly written reports they send us.
" 'Arse pissing' mentions are down 6% this month and 4% so far this quarter. "
" 'Nigel Farage' negative word association - 78%, up 6.25% from previous report. "
" IRC channel analysis shows average of 8 users, peak of 15. "
Seriously though, thanks for not encrypting anything. It really makes our robots lives a lot easier.
Unless you've got access to a decent chemist (probably someone with a masters) and he's doing a proper conversion of your jokecaine to freebase and then back to a hydrochloride salt you almost definitely don't have 100% pure cocaine. In Brazil no one has 100% pure cocaine. Even in the bocas at the biggest Rio favellas, shit is cut to hell and back with fucking marble dust and levamisole. Even if the cocaine hasn't be touched since it hit British shores it's still most likely cut to fuck. The only time I ever got hold of 100% pure cocaine was a batch of so called “capa preta” (black cap/black seal/black label) which is/was sold ADA bocas in Rio and is supposedly straight from Columbia and not cut at all. Batches of "capa preta" were rare as fuck, even in Rio, because it's so much more economical to cut the stuff to hell and sell it a bit cheaper (the only really positive thing to say about cocaine in Brazil is at least (other than levamisole) there are no active cuts in it because (meth)amphetamine is basically unheard of over there. The number of times I've paid £40 for a wrap of what turned out to basically be speed in London does my head in.
tl;dr - convert your shit to freebase with amonia and back to a salt if you want to IV it. Anything else and you're basically injecting all kinds of crap right into your fucking blood streams. It's safer to just inject meth, at least no one cuts meth the way they do coke.
> Seriously though, thanks for not encrypting anything. It really makes our robots lives a lot easier.
The IRC uses ssl iirc, but I think at least 2-3 of the 'users' are just collection bots. Or people who died in front of their computers years ago. Hard to tell, sometimes.
Ok, we realise that any synthesis is going to produce impurities. Generally when dealing with drugs we talk about "pure product", "intentional cuts", and "active cuts (things that feel the same, kind of, but aren't"). No need to get all autistic about it.
I remember a chemist friend of mind claiming that the closest he could get amphetamine synthesis (via the p2p method) was ~80%. Then again another friend claimed to have a (roughly) 100% pure method for d-methamphetamine synthesis (via a route he never disclosed).
>>6979 > Then again another friend claimed to have a (roughly) 100% pure method for d-methamphetamine synthesis (via a route he never disclosed).
Yeah that never happened.
And yet a lot of the chemicals I (legally) buy online claim an assay of 99.5%+. BASF claim that their GBL 99.99% pure. Is someone telling me porkie pies, chemlad?
Absolutely. But likewise some clandestine chemists have advanced degrees and access to sophisticated labware.
Cocaine is a separate case because it's actually an extraction, not a synthesis. The fact that this initial extraction is being performed rote by untrained people in makeshift "labs" (actually just a spot near a stream they can dump all the chemicals in after) deep in the jungle unfortunately means that even "untouched from source 100% pure cocaine" is actually going to be pretty fucking impure indeed.
Obviously as >>6985 points out any illicit drug is always going to be intentionally cut by the time you get it (in addition to whatever impurities were introduced during production). The only way you can ever get anything approaching 100% 99%+ pure is to either be a chemist or know one very well indeed.
The main issue IMO is that of supply chains. Drugs of natural origin like cocaine and heroin travel a very long way and pass through a lot of hands before they reach the UK; Cutting is pretty much pure profit for a middleman, so it's almost certain that anything you buy will have been repeatedly stepped on. Synthetic products like MDMA and methamphetamine are generally purer because the supply chains between you and the source are usually much shorter, with fewer middlemen.
> Synthetic products like MDMA and methamphetamine are generally purer because the supply chains between you and the source are usually much shorter, with fewer middlemen.
And yet UK street speed (amphetamine sulphate) is amongst the least pure street drugs available anywhere in the world, despite being produced primarily in the Netherlands (the same as most of our MDMA). Inversely the vast majority of our methamphetamine comes in from Thailand (the primary userbase of methamphetamine in the UK isn't the gay community but Thai sex workers, trafficked or not) and yet it's generally pure. Ketamine likewise is nearly always shipped in from India (or nearby) or China, and yet most Ketamine sold in the UK is of a relatively high purity.
Basically I think it's a mix of things, from supply chains, to supply and demand (there simply isn't enough cocaine produced to supply the worldwide demand for it) to the relative difficulty of cutting a product that comes in crystal form (you'd have to dissolve the meth/MDMA, add something that'd bind to it and recrystallize... something that is far, far beyond the ken of (pretty much) any dealer. Interestingly, in the States where MDMA is often sold as a powder, it's much more regularly cut with cathinones ("bath salts") and other crap.
I also think target markets come into play a lot. Cocaine is now very much a drug of the people, sniffed in pub toilets from Kilburn to Kensington, quite often by people who couldn't tell the difference between coke and speed if you hit them round the head with the Merck Index. Likewise heroin addicts aren't generally the sort to turn their nose up at heroin full stop, if the quality drops they more and so on. When you need a fix, you need a fix. Oppositely, drugs like Methamphetamine and GHB and still sold to fairly "niche" and discerning markets in the UK - and if you're selling crap people simply won't come back for more.
>I also think target markets come into play a lot.
I've certainly noticed this to be the case, especially with coke. Buy it in a little town or a student area and you're just buying speed and talc. Around clubbing cities or, ahem, professional usage, it's as good as you're likely to get.
But basically you'll get what you're given. The only thing I feel comfortable calling 'reliable' or consistent is LSD, though I wouldn't be surprised to hear otherwise either.
>>6993 >The only thing I feel comfortable calling 'reliable' or consistent is LSD
Do you mean reliably used as a deliberate misnomer for various 2c chemicals and other hallucinogenic research chems?
Ive never known anyone that could a) actually come through for me on an acid deal and b) actually be sure that the drug they claimed to have once taken under the name "acid" was actually legitimate lysergic acid diethylamide.
Given the difficulties involved in obtaining some of the chemicals necessary for LSD synthesis and the knowledge needed to actually carry out the reaction alongside the lack of demand (compared to say coke, weed or even heroin) vs the risk and easy availability of cheap apparently LSD-like research substances I'd say that the vast majority of hallucinogenic drugs sold as acid are more than likely something else.
>though I wouldn't be surprised to hear otherwise either.
Oh good.
Your toss-up of manufacturing costs vs risk fails to take into account how incredibly easy it is to smuggle LSD, the scentless chemical which is potent in invisible doses. It's not that hard to get ahold of.
Your reasoning fails to take into account that time when my mate's cousin's dealer's best man had concealed acid on his body and it all melted, seeping into his pores, during a high speed bicycle chase with the police and now he thinks he's a milkshake
>>7040 Milkshake? The way I heard it it's always been a teapot or glass of orange juice who is afraid of spilling or being drank, or an orange who's afraid of being peeled.
Well if it really is that easy, then I can't imagine how much easier it is to get hold of dodgy research chemicals and claim they are LSD. Oh wait, I can, it's a piece of piss. You just order them online and sell them to unsuspecting drug users who don't know you can do such things.
This path of least resistance is why it's practically impossible to buy real acid. It's easier to con people than risk possession and sale of an actual class A.
It boils my piss frankly, because I want nothing more than to spend a nice afternoon listening to Jimmy and watching the sky melt as the sun sets, but instead I've just had a few mostly boring evenings squinting to see the wallpaper pop out a bit and then not being able to sleep.
>>7042 Aren't most people with a serious interest in acid well enough versed in the scene to know about RCs? If I had to guess, the large majority of news reports that have mentioned acid in the last five+ years have only done so to warn about people selling other more dangerous things as it. I know it depends a great deal on who you know but currently I can get ahold of tabs, liquid and microdots more reliably than I can ket or even MD that isn't actually methylone. The various research chems sold as acid are usually active in much higher doses; they have distinct flavors and the tabs are almost double the size. Not to say it's easy to get but I think you're overstating the difficulty.
The trick is knowing the right (generally older) head/hippy dealers who won't touch the RCs with a barge pole. Generally though, LSD is in massively short supply globally because it's so hard to make and no one's bloody making it. I wouldn't trust a tab off a club / festival dealer or off the darknet though.
> The various research chems sold as acid are usually active in much higher doses; they have distinct flavors and the tabs are almost double the size.
A few years ago that was true (2c-X, DOx, etc all need at least 1-2 mgs to be active) but 25i can be significantly active at 500ug, bromo d-fly likewise. As you know, getting 500 mics onto an LSD-size tab isn't hard.
>>7044 Yeah N-BOMe type drugs were (as far as i can tell) deliberately designed to take the place of LSD.
Sadly I never had real LSD before all these new RC drugs came about, so now it would be completely impossible for me to tell what i was actually taking if I bought tabs off someone. It could be acid, It could be 25i, it could be bromo d-f, without a frame of reference i'd never know and I wouldn't really trust anyone else's judgement cuz half the druggies I know can't even tell when their coke is mostly dental anaesthetic.
I figure this thread is as good a place to ask as any, but what's the likelihood of getting v& for ordering one of those shroom growkits off the interweb?
The website of course insists it's all legal under EU law and what have you, but I am naturally too paranoid (comes with the territory when you're the sort of person who's interested in shrooms in the first p lace I suppose) to just give it a go and see what happens.
>>7054 Did you miss all the bits where they talk about what made them suspicious about packages and the controlled deliveries? There's nowhere that'll give you perfect information on how safe it is now, but those things give some context to the likelihood of one-offs and stuff.
