I don't even know if this is an /A/ question, maybe it's more of a /law/ one:
Ok let's say that someone exists who suffers from severe "Some days I can't even go to the shop to buy food no matter how hungry I am" levels of anxiety. And because this guy self-medicated with booze from time to time to stop himself from starving, then admitted said self-medication to his GP like a fool, they won't give him real anti-anxiety meds in case he abuses them and instead fob him off with pregabalin and other shit. So this guy, who is otherwise law-abiding and normal, has to buy his medication from dodgy blokes iwth earrings and tattoos, who also sell "real" drugs, for £2 a pill.
Two questions really. First, is £2 a pill a rip off for valium? He wants to know because he's so naive and so genuinely wouldn't know if he was getting fucked.
Second, what happens if you get caught with prescription medication without a prescription? Because he was on prescription meds for quite a while and everything was fine, he didn't carry a doctor's note around with him or anything, so would he be able to bluff his way out of it if he was stopped and searched or do they literally sit your arse down and phone your GP to make sure you aren't lying?
Maybe this is more of an /emo/ thread than anything.
OP, I believe £2 a valium is a bit pricey and they are likely to be available much cheaper if bought in bulk.
If someone you know does buy them in bulk they will almost certainly develop severe dependency which will worsen problems to the extent that the anxiety about going to the shops will come to seem like a halcyon era of carefree sociability. Benzodiazepines are NOT real anti-anxiety drugs in that they will make any anxiety state worse over time. I'm not being preachy here, I know this is /A/ and will cop to having a bit of dangerous fun mixing booze and clonazepam and falling down the stairs laughing all the way once. But to alleviate anxiety the GP's suggestion is actually much better in the long run.
As for the legality of this stuff, I cannot imagine any popo giving much of a fuck about this unless someone was being a prick in some other way and it could bump up a charge sheet, or unless they were dealing.
Sage because someone I knew and loved died from this class of drugs and it makes me sad.
This. Benzodiazepines should only be used for very brief periods (less than two weeks) as a temporary treatment for patients in crisis. Tolerance and dependence set in within weeks, at which point you're taking ever-increasing doses just to feel as shit as you did before.
As much as I dislike pissing in cornflakes I've been taking the same dose of Etizolam for nigh on three years now, and it still works as it always did.
Etizolam is a thienodiazepine, not a benzodiazepine. The limited data we have suggests that it carries a much lower risk of tolerance and dependence than benzodiazepines. One study suggests that it has a modest reverse-tolerance effect on rat neurons in vitro. It's a very different drug to a classical benzodiazepine, and seems to be different in many ways to other thienodiazepines.
We do know that Etizolam's GABAergic effects are highly synergistic with alcohol, so the same risks of accidental overdose apply.
Good post. I'd read about the (alleged) lowered risk of tolerance and dependence, potential potential reverse-tolerance, etc, but I've still seen people end up boshing 20mg a night and ending up with the most horrible withdrawals. I think my point is that some people will end up heavily dependent on Dairy Lea while others will struggle to get a decent crack habit going no matter how much they invest in it.
>>7615 >20mg a night
Good lord. That sounds like the benzo equivalent of downing a few litres of vodka. Even taking the obvious build-up of tolerance into account, I'm surprised that that kind of dose doesn't just knock you out cold. What's the overdose threshold like for etizolam, anyway? I'm not surprised to hear it's lethal in combination with alcohol (most benzos and related drugs are) but 20mg of etizolam sounds pretty fucking dangerous to me.
There's no good good evidence on high dose use of etizolam, but long term users of benzodiazepines can build up truly immense tolerances. Some Scottish temazepam users were recorded as taking over 1000mg per day, which would be equivalent to 500mg of diazepam or 50mg of etizolam. I've seen diazepam users with 200-300mg habits who were alert, lucid and perfectly capable of holding down a job.
That tolerance is why benzodiazepine withdrawal can be so dangerous - your GABA and glutamate systems downregulate to such an extent that withdrawal can cause massive seizures.
As far as I know, it's not illegal to possess medication that is not available without a prescription, unless it is a Controlled Drug. Benzodiazepines, including Valium, are Class C Controlled Drugs, and so, illegal to possess without prescription.
I wouldn't be able to say whether the police would bother checking with your GP if they caught you with it, but he probably shouldn't risk it.
Related question - how likely am I going to be in shit if I take a few valiums through an airport without a prescription? Would they be able to find them if they're just in my pocket?
Going out will be fine, at worst they'll confiscate it. Arrival is what you need to worry about - a lot of countries have incredibly strict drug laws. Valium dust on an empty blister packet could get you locked up.
I think you'll be fine in Greece as long as you have a doctors note. Probably. I don't know, research it. My mate was given yellows by his GP for going to Cyprus by plane and had them in his bag the entire time he was there for the flight home as well. They are basically the same country, when you think about it.
Don't worry about a bit of percy anywhere inside the EU, you're safe. Venture outside at your peril, however; entering the US with a few hundred personal Valiums was an experience I'd rather not relive.
>>7656 >entering the US with a few hundred personal Valiums was an experience I'd rather not relive
What happened? I presume you were ultimately able to prove them to be legit otherwise you'd still be in a "Federal Penitentiary". So what's the story? How does one even legitimately obtain such a large amount of valium? And what the fuck happened at customs?
