No. 450863Anonymous 19th April 2022 Tuesday 11:04 am450863Fighting for countries other than your own.
General discussion about going to war for countries other than your own. Any anecdotes or experiences?
A guy who worked for my dad fought all over African in various late/post-colonial conflicts and said he did it for the rush rather than money.
I find myself in a strange place. I want to volunteer in Ukraine, and I’m ex army with above average experience.
My hesitation is twofold. Firstly there is a ton of confusing information about how best to volunteer, some of it probably propaganda from multiple sides, so I’m not sure if the Ukrainian Foreign Legion is the way to go. Currently it seems they are mostly held back as reserve units and on logistics and medevac duties. My background is light infantry and forward observer, so from a professional perspective I would feel I was taking a massive step down, something that has happened in my civilian life too. There are other options, but they all seem to be under septic command and full of a mix of Afghan vets acting out some sort of shock therapy and military walts who are trying to pass themselves off as snipers from tier one units when they were forklift drivers in Bastion.
Secondly I’m not sure if my motivation is entirely healthy. My life in civvy street has been mostly disappointing. I found it very difficult to have meaningful friendships or even conversations with people who are upset about trivial shit like pronouns when you have dealt with hundreds of people who have lost everything, been tortured etc. And I will admit that I have always been drawn to danger and extreme situations.
Autism because this might be better suited to emo or pol.
I dunno m8, I can't say I've ever been in a war, but it seems like the sort of thing you should only do if you're absolutely sure of it.
You already sound like you're struggling to lead a normal life, what makes you think putting yourself through more of what put you in that position will in any way improve the matter? Are you sure you don't have something in common with those Septics you mentioned?
>Secondly I’m not sure if my motivation is entirely healthy.
I'm going to go out on a limb and suggest that any motivation to go to war when it's not strictly necessary, is not entirely healthy.
>I find myself in a strange place. I want to volunteer in Ukraine, and I’m ex army with above average experience.
See I'm ex-army as well but let's be honest it's not all Rambo, you're very liable to get your legs blown off and spend the rest of your life on a PIP assessment because you're going to get fuck-all care for it. Also unless you speak Ukrainian you'll be quite useless outside of septic commanded units so will be at best in a training function.
I don't know anyone who has gone, they've instead enriched themselves on easier and sensible work doing private security. Not the African genocide stuff but anti-piracy and bodyguards.
>Secondly I’m not sure if my motivation is entirely healthy. My life in civvy street has been mostly disappointing. I found it very difficult to have meaningful friendships or even conversations with people who are upset about trivial shit like pronouns when you have dealt with hundreds of people who have lost everything, been tortured etc. And I will admit that I have always been drawn to danger and extreme situations.
You may need to put the rose glasses down if you think that military life isn't full of precious snowflakes obsessed with bullshit and office squabbling.
>>450863 Any other Government would be strongly and firmly telling people not to go, even if they didn't try and stop people leaving the country. It's just our outrageously incompetent government can't even get the messages straight between departments.
All I'd say is the fighting is all well and good, but if you get captured it's not just the issue of your personal treatment as the Russians can't be trusted to apply the Geneva convention to what they consider a mercenary, there's also the fact that you would end up being used as a political tool against the west and cause more harm than whatever good you did on the battlefield.
>>450891 >Any other Government would be strongly and firmly telling people not to go, even if they didn't try and stop people leaving the country. It's just our outrageously incompetent government can't even get the messages straight between departments.
Really depends lad. Arabia? No, no. Ukraine? Eh.
>>450863 My initial reaction is "don't go". To address the points you yourself brought up, firstly my understanding is that the Ukrainian Foreign Legion requires you to sign up until the war's done, which could be a very long time indeed. Though I have also read they let you go if it's obvious you can't hack it for one reason or another. As for your second concern I'd add this; you will (probably) end up on civvy street again anyway, unless you become .gs' very own John Rambo. So whatever the problems you currently have probably won't be made any better by a stint in the Ukraine. However, you also have to consider how shit civilian life could be after you're on the wrong end of a flurry of 20mm autocannon fire, deafened by shelling or with a plain old knackered knee from landing wrong with an NLAW on your back. Being captured doesn't seem like much of a lark either, as Aiden Aslin appears to have had the shite kicked out of him since being made a POW.
>>450863 >and said he did it for the rush rather than money.
back before the invention of video games, theirs was the only way to experience playing "the most dangerous game".
