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>> No. 452518 Anonymous
15th July 2022
Friday 12:09 pm
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Bull Sand Fort: Humber defence to be sold to highest bidder

An armour-plated World War One fort in the Humber Estuary, which can only be reached by boat or helicopter, is to be sold off to the highest bidder.

Bull Sand Fort, built between 1915 and 1919, sits in the sea three miles (4.8km) from Grimsby. Bidding for the building, described as "needing refurbishment", would start at £50,000, agents Savills said.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-humber-62163748

If we all chip in we can buy our own fort. Who's with me? Might be a bit of a fixer upper.
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>> No. 452519 Anonymous
15th July 2022
Friday 12:33 pm
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What are the local public transport links like?

This is the catch 22 of the property market right now, all the decent jobs are on land, but all the affordable property is in the middle of the North Sea.
>> No. 452520 Anonymous
15th July 2022
Friday 12:50 pm
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The real problem is that it's a grade II listed building, so you're going to have huge issues refurbishing it to anything worthwhile.
>> No. 452521 Anonymous
15th July 2022
Friday 12:57 pm
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>>452520
Not if you secede like Sealand. Then you get to decide what is and isn't listed.
>> No. 452522 Anonymous
15th July 2022
Friday 1:06 pm
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>>452521
Sealand could do that because their fort was illegally built in international waters. Bull Sand is far too close to the shore. Looks like you can actually walk to it in low tides so you wouldn't even be safe from the ravening hordes of Hull.

I wonder if you could let Sealand annexe you, or if that would cause issues.
>> No. 452523 Anonymous
15th July 2022
Friday 1:20 pm
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>>452519
You'll be about 600 metres from where the Hull to Rotterdam ferry goes past, provided P&O are still in business.

Beyond that you're probably a couple of miles away from the lifeboat station at Spurn Point and around the same in the other direction from Cleethorpes.

>>452520
There's sea forts in the Solent they've converted to hotels. Besides, if you're in the middle of the Humber who's gonna know and what can they actually do about it?

>>452522
Bull Sand is the one in the background. Haile Sand is the one close to the shoreline.
>> No. 452524 Anonymous
15th July 2022
Friday 2:34 pm
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Some "urban explorers" took a boat to it and took photos of parts of it.
https://www.28dayslater.co.uk/threads/bull-sands-fort-humber-estuary-may-2019.118051/
>> No. 452525 Anonymous
15th July 2022
Friday 4:29 pm
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Tin of paint and some wallpaper and you'll have the place done up in no time.



This would be perfect for another Grand Designs episode.
>> No. 452526 Anonymous
15th July 2022
Friday 5:19 pm
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>>452525
Do people still use wallpaper? I think every wall in my house only has paint on it.
>> No. 452527 Anonymous
15th July 2022
Friday 6:05 pm
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>>452526

My mother seems to like to have one wall with paper on. She calls it a 'statement wall'
>> No. 452528 Anonymous
15th July 2022
Friday 6:06 pm
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I have about 30k I could pitch in, but I do want to be Fort Boss.
>> No. 452529 Anonymous
15th July 2022
Friday 6:17 pm
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While it's not much more squalid than my teenage bedroom, I've got no desire to go back to living that way. I've also got no money, but you didn't know that when you started reading this.
>> No. 452532 Anonymous
15th July 2022
Friday 8:21 pm
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Would we still be on the hook if the Kaiser sends U-Boats to attack Grimsby and Hull?
>> No. 452536 Anonymous
16th July 2022
Saturday 3:56 am
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>>452527
The "feature wall" is definitely the abomination du jour of interior design, but at least we've moved away from shit canvas prints.
>> No. 452537 Anonymous
16th July 2022
Saturday 4:06 am
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>>452536

My mother's very much a sticks-in-vases type, I'm amazed she's never had a live laugh love on the wall. I seem to remember a 'wine o'clock' sign at some point.

No wonder I'm the way I am.
>> No. 452540 Anonymous
16th July 2022
Saturday 8:36 am
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So with a skiff you could get back to shore and buy supplies, maybe a small diesel stove and a some insulation on one of the rooms and you could keep it dry. With a decent pringles antenna you might even get 3g, so what's not to love?
>> No. 452542 Anonymous
16th July 2022
Saturday 8:52 am
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>>452540
Could you grow food there? There's plenty of sun but I'm not sure what that salty air will do to leaves.
>> No. 452543 Anonymous
16th July 2022
Saturday 8:54 am
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>>452542
Apparently it's large enough to house 200 men, so you could probably grow them indoors with hydroponics.
>> No. 452544 Anonymous
16th July 2022
Saturday 9:12 am
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>>452543
Salt air doesn't follow vampire rules mate.
>> No. 452545 Anonymous
16th July 2022
Saturday 9:16 am
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>>452542
Probably not enough to be self sufficient, but no reason the roof couldn't be turned into a garden, though you'd have to dredge up some soil.
>> No. 452546 Anonymous
16th July 2022
Saturday 9:43 am
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>>452545

I can't find the internal square footage anywhere but with hydroponics you can harvest about one lettuce a day from a 1'x5'x5' hydroponic setup. That's maybe 2% of your daily calorie needs but I'm sure there's enough room there to scale it up and diversify, at least for one person.
I imagine a tidal generator would cover all your power needs though you'd be spending tens of thousands initially for the grow lights. You'd be relatively self-sufficient in terms of hydroponic nutrients with a few vermicomposting setups, they'd take up possibly one room at most.
For fresh water your options are an electric still of some sort (I think that would use too much of the generator's capacity but haven't done the maths), rainwater collection (this is going to be slightly salty no matter what), or solar stills, which need a very large area of direct sun to work well and provide for both a person and the hydroponics, but I think this is the best bet as you could just make lots of them on floating rafts.
>> No. 452550 Anonymous
16th July 2022
Saturday 10:15 am
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Might be better just to have a room with thousands of tins of beans.
>> No. 452551 Anonymous
16th July 2022
Saturday 11:30 am
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>>452542
As long as one of us brings a fishing rod (and ideally a rotisserie chicken and some cans) we'll be fine.
>> No. 452552 Anonymous
16th July 2022
Saturday 12:01 pm
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>>452544
Vampire rules are silly anyway. Nobody's gonna let me drive a stake through their heart to prove whether they're a vampire or not.
>> No. 452555 Anonymous
16th July 2022
Saturday 2:51 pm
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50K quid as a starting bid seems reasonable, but there's a chance it will fetch something in the region of 150K to 200K, as one of the neighbouring forts sold for £117,000 in 2018.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-humber-45785743

Anybody buying it will have to spend an absolute fortune renovating it though. From the looks of it, in order to make it look like a place that's in good nick and not a crumbling shithole, I'd expect an additional investment northwards of £500K. With the flexibility of spending double that, if the structure is in worse shape than meets the eye. And you'd still be bound by restrictions because it's a listed site.

Its use as a commercial property would also be limited to recoup your investment. You can't really run it as a hotel or restaurant, as being in the middle of a tidal zone makes accessing it a bit tricky. There are other places like that, for example Mont St. Michel in Normandy, but it has a road connecting it to the mainland at all times. And, well, you've got a mediaeval monastery there. A WWI poured-concrete military structure doesn't quite have the same appeal.

You could run it as a WWI museum, but interest will probably be limited, and you're again stuck with the problem of getting people to and from the site.

It'll probably end up becoming some shrewd millionaire getaway, where whoever will own it can feel a bit like a pound-shop Bond villain.
>> No. 452556 Anonymous
16th July 2022
Saturday 3:47 pm
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>>452552
You've got to tell them "Go through that door or I'll stake you through the heart" outside someone else's house, that way you're not inviting them in but there's a very simple binary choice.

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