>>139
I though exactly the same thing when I read that report today. I reckon we have government spais in here!

/eco/ is the future!

Oh well, I'm not sure what will happen when the food riots start, but I'll be able to grow my own stuff in the garden sooner or later.

>>146
What happens when the riots start, is that people steal all the food you grow in your garden.

>>195

/eco/ regulars are a prepared for any eventuality.

Our days of glory are about to begin!

_{http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2010/jan/07/gas-rationing-national-grid-factories}

>>197
I think that's a very important story. Most people have no fucking idea how vulnerable our fuel supplies are. We almost saw it a few years back when all the fuel tanker drivers went on strike, but its the tip of the iceberg, really.

>>196
The Chuckle Brothers look a bit down on their luck.

>>197
>the gas transmission network in certain parts of the country was operating at 96% capacity and it was not possible to go beyond this.
Cam amyome shed some light on this for those of us who read 'capacity' as the upper limit of operation, and '96%' as less than the theoretical maximum of 100%?

>>195

They don't see it, because it's behind my house.

>>205

I think it was an awkward way of saying 'we thought the pipes would work better than they actually do'

>>205
Pipes leak.

Concerns have now switched to food supply. Sub-zero temperatures have made it impossible to extract some vegetables from the ground. Producers of brussels sprouts and cabbages are all reporting problems with harvesting. Cauliflowers are said to have turned to "mush" in the sustained frost, with the result that only imported ones are available – at more than £2 each.

_{http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2010/jan/09/food-costs-soar-big-freeze}

I love that phrase about how we're only two missed meals from social-order breaking down. I had to seriously dig my car out and brave the roads today because we were beginning to run out of food.

>>283

>we're only two missed meals from social-order breaking down

This is true this.

Look what happened in the last proper famine we had over in this corner, half of Ireland fled to America.

>>205
There's a certain overhead (cleaning, regular safety inspections etc.) which reduces the maximum throughput from the theoretical "all pipes, all of the time" 100% scenario.

The thaw seems a bit of a shame if we really are on the verge of popular uprising.

>>312

I know, I'm emptied the contents of my freezer in the garden to help the uprising along.

>>313
Maybe I should shovel the snow out of my garden and deposit it over the nearby motorway from the nearby bridge over a mtorway, just to shimmy things along...

>>314

The fact that you have not already done so makes me suspect you are Lord Mandelson or his 'alledged' rentboy.

>>315
Why, how did you guess?

>>318

What's the charity wristband he is wearing there?

>>319
Not sure, but the picture's from april '06, if that aligns it with any of the big charity events... I'd say Unite against Poverty from memory, but don't hold me to that.

Good luck trying to grow anything if you are in a flat or a new build house with a typically tiny garden.

>>323

Grow things on windowbeds, NEXT

>>326

Feed a family from a window bed! World hunger is solved!

Phew. That is a load off my mind.

>>320

Mandelson wanting to make poverty history? Oh the tragic irony. I think he even attends Bilderberg meetings. :(

>>328

Don't be ridiculous.

You're the one making it difficult, and growing some on windowbeds is better than not doing jack shit ebcause 'oh it's too small'.

you are an ass.

>>323
Well clearly the ones who live in flats or new builds won't be the ones who survive the /eco/ revolution. Also, allotments.

Another terrible news article. Still on about CO2 and "global warming" after all the debunking? Tsk. Concentrate on simply feeding people and the basics without that nonsense.

It is a waste of time to tell people to go back to a medieval style of living. People can't all become subsistence farmers. Not only because they don't have time to feed themselves this way while having a proper job but because there is not enough land to do it this old fashioned and inefficient way.

It is also both funny and sad to see them worry about "food security" when they are flooding farmland (that took centuries to get to such a good state) to become pointless nature reserves. Great idea. We're worried about starving so they sponsor ruining what farmland we have.

Add to that the loss of green belts and farm land to various projects (wind turbines included) and it seems that the left hand has no idea what the right hand is doing. Business as usual.

At least GM crops look to hold great promise for increasing world food production.

>>332

Take your pills and relax. Foaming at the mouth doesn't help your condition.

Growing on window beds isn't really better than doing nothing if we're talking about feeding people. Get a hold of yourself, man.

>>333

Allotments? You mean those big green and brown things they sold off and paved over to make cheap housing during the property boom? Ooops.

>>336
Fine. You feel bloody miserable about everything and you can starve. I'm getting the impression that it'll be no great loss.

>>338

I can tell whatever you're doing is really cheering you up no end too. Such a happy chappy. Ell-Oh-Ell

About 80% of all supermarket supplies of carrots now come from just 10 major packers in East Anglia, Scotland and the north of England. At this time of year, more than half the carrots the UK eats have to make their way from north-east Scotland, where the fields over the past fortnight have been frozen, to centralised distribution depots and back out again to stores.

The UK's milk supply has become very concentrated too: some 60% of our fresh milk has to travel from farms around the country to six locations for processing before being trucked back hundreds of miles up and down icy motorways to customers.

_{http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2010/jan/15/carrots-vegetable-shortage-predicted-supermarkets}

Very interesting. Apparently people have been panic-buying carrots. You couldn't make it up.

>>439
>Apparently people have been panic-buying carrots. You couldn't make it up.

Incredibly, you're wrong.

_{http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/oxfordshire/7402553.stm}
>Thursday, 15 May 2008
>Teenager plans carrot 'panic buy'

>>440

I loved that story.

"To be honest, I wish I could say something really good, like I'm trying to make a political point but I'm not"

If I was her I'd have at least made some sort of point about third world famine or something. Bloody 'wacky' students.

>>446

Well, Third world famine might end if they started to grow some carrots. Silly folks out there.

>>446
>UK;YHBT

I view of the more serious comments in the current ITZ thread, I thought this was worth a bump.

>>2093

Bloody why? You should really only do this if you actually have something constructive to add.