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>> No. 1428 Anonymous
19th October 2010
Tuesday 12:12 pm
1428 Tree bombs!
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/1999/sep/02/paulbrown

How does this make you feel /eco/?
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>> No. 1429 Anonymous
19th October 2010
Tuesday 1:22 pm
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Surely it's cheaper, easier, and far, far less dangerous just to drive over there and plant them in person.
>> No. 1430 Anonymous
19th October 2010
Tuesday 1:42 pm
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>>1429

On a lesser board, I would simply have asked you if you had read the link or simply replied hoping for the best, however this is /eco/.

If this is actually done on a large scale it would have tremendous impact and be more effective than the methods you suggest. Actually a true ecofag would probably use a bike, walk or his trusty steed.
>> No. 1431 Anonymous
19th October 2010
Tuesday 6:20 pm
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This sounds retarded. What's the point?

I'll look forward to hearing of the first ramblers and animals killed by tree bombing.
>> No. 1432 Anonymous
19th October 2010
Tuesday 7:02 pm
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>>1431
Its from 1999, if it has not been done by now, i doubt it will happen.
>> No. 1433 Anonymous
19th October 2010
Tuesday 8:31 pm
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>>1431 I agree where would they get these trees? And surely just leaving the land alone for 30 years would have largely the same effect?
>> No. 1434 Anonymous
20th October 2010
Wednesday 11:16 am
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>>1433

Indeed. "Leave it alone" is something that many people should consider when it comes to these things. Plus, why do people keep mistakenly assumming that any bit of land without a tree on it is somehow a tragedy or unnatural? There are moss bogs and prairies and other landscapes that work very well without trees all over (especially awful monoculture, single age and heavily managed forests that are as natural as astroturf and bear no resemblance to any "ancient" forest). Lots of species thrive when there are no forests and need other habitats and natural cycles of change and depletion to occur, which are often all too often held back due to some warped sense of "conservation" whereby nature herself somehow becomes an enemy of conservation (I've been saddened too many times before by massive wastes of manpower and money spent on artifically maintaining certain areas). Trees in Europe have also been increasing since the war thanks to time being left alone and modern responsible harvesting and replanting. There is no great decline that would need such insane attempts.

Typical crazy ideas from and supported by shallow and ill informed green wannabees (or businessmen looking to ride the green gravy train).
>> No. 1435 Anonymous
20th October 2010
Wednesday 11:17 am
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>>1433

I have a horrible but humourous vision of them plowing down one natural habitat to farm endless trees to dump on another natural area. Disrupting two areas for the price of one!
>> No. 1436 Anonymous
20th October 2010
Wednesday 11:40 am
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>>1434

I bow down to your superior arboreal knowledge oh great treemaster. One question, are you certified?
>> No. 1437 Anonymous
20th October 2010
Wednesday 4:21 pm
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>>1434
Aye i hate the look and feel of organised lines of exactly the same tree, and that they use a bit of wood and a plastic cylinder to protect it.
>> No. 1438 Anonymous
20th October 2010
Wednesday 7:42 pm
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>>1434
Uncultivated areas of previously forested Scottish mountains have had plenty of time to re-tree themselves, and not risen to the opportunity. I understand that in some instances, trees will quickly and efficiently reclaim the land. However, when there is a large, inhospitable deforested area, then helping the trees along is a worthwhile investment, if you like trees.
>> No. 1439 Anonymous
22nd October 2010
Friday 1:22 pm
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>>1436

I have worked for a while and with some rather distinguished fellows in conservation. I know the senior fellows all dismayed at some of the often naive and wacky ideas that would be thrust upon them in the name of "conservation" or some eco/green burst in public, media or government feelings. They'd then try to explain how complicated these things were or why the ideas were not thought through properly but politicans and the public spend comparitively only tiny amounts of time invovled in it and so expect quick results and answers or that their skimming of these people's lifetimes of work will somehow be enough. The one thing that often comes up time and again in their opinion is that the best thing for people to do is "to just leave it alone". If you got some of them started they'd rant forever on some of the "crimes" of misguided eco meddling or the humourous futility of other examples.

>>1437

Agreed. Looks terrible. More like a B&Q garden aisle than a forest. Wandering through a patch of forest that has been mostly left alone is a wonderful experience compared to these plastic Christmas tree style arrangements.

>>1438

>if you like trees.

Which of course is the key in most of these discussions. It's what people "like" that really matters to them, not what nature does. It's all a garden to them. They will manage and prune and plant and plow to suit their desires, same as they would with their roses or their vegetables in the greenhouse.
>> No. 1440 Anonymous
23rd October 2010
Saturday 7:28 pm
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Disliking trees that are planted in rows seems redundant in this instance, as these are not precision bombers.
>> No. 1441 Anonymous
24th October 2010
Sunday 2:55 pm
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I'm all for this. I wish that Britain was covered in forest again.
>> No. 1442 Anonymous
30th October 2010
Saturday 1:25 pm
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>>1441

Considering how little the Government cares about the indigenous human population, but don't mind wasting money on Africa and Europe, whilst paying for Mosques in every city, you can't expect them to care about trees.
>> No. 1443 Anonymous
30th October 2010
Saturday 4:26 pm
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>>1442

I'm generally right of centre, but I've been growing less hostile to this 'foreign aid' wheeze as of late. If Britain's declining, and Africa's growing, surely any currying of favour is a good thing?
>> No. 1444 Anonymous
30th October 2010
Saturday 11:47 pm
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>>1443 Foreign aid is fallacy. The money is always tied to something (contracts, agreements, resource rights). You are right about currying favour. We are currently in competition with China for all Africa's minerals.
>> No. 1445 Anonymous
31st October 2010
Sunday 9:13 am
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>>1444

Your lack of articles disturbs me.
>> No. 1446 Anonymous
31st October 2010
Sunday 3:40 pm
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>>1445
You could read up on the history of the Commonwealth Development Corporation, for a start.
>> No. 1447 Anonymous
1st November 2010
Monday 3:20 pm
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>>1445 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tied_aid
As an example, 100 million is given to buy tractors, but they must be bought from the donor country. This means they will be locked into buying parts and labour to service the tractors from the donor country. If they just flog the tractors on, they won't get anymore aid.

Having said that, aid is still aid and the UK doesn't go in for those shenanigans anymore.

The big scam currently is the aid tied to crops which are the intellectual property of the big agrocorporations.
>> No. 1448 Anonymous
12th November 2010
Friday 9:12 pm
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>>1447

>crops which are the intellectual property of the big agrocorporations.

You wouldn't pirate a corn field...
>> No. 1449 Anonymous
18th November 2010
Thursday 2:59 am
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>>1447

> the UK doesn't go in for those shenanigans anymore

Of course we don't - it wouldn't be 'British' would it?

Britain has made a long-term commitment to continue supporting Ghana... if the country gets its policies right.
http://gbcghana.com/index.php?id=1.169834

One of his early moves was to invite Bono to the party conference. "lol"
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/peteroborne/100061337/overseas-aid-is-funding-human-rights-abuses/


Britain has warned Pakistan that its failure to reform its corrupt and wasteful government has put in jeopardy its chances of emerging as the biggest recipient of British foreign aid.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/pakistan/8132392/Reform-or-risk-aid-Pakistan-warned.html

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