>>2836
You don't a light, just get a greenhouse.

No, do not. If some busybody complains they'll come round, have a quick peek and that'll be that.

I did the same thing to start tomatoes early a few years back (worked great) and the only recommendation I can make is to not tell anyone about it. No one really believes you when you say you're not growing weed as soon as any amount of electric stuff is involved.

>>2836
You'll need planning permission and a certified electrician to set it up, so the police will come and scope it out to make sure you're not building a grow up in your back garden.

>>2838
Ta. The propagator's less than a foot high so it should be obvious even from looking through the shed window I don't have a full-on grow room going on. Was just worried that the 12 hours of light will stand out once the nights get longer.

>>2837
Controlled heat and light makes a huge difference, especially if you want to get your seedlings started in February.

>>2839
That picture was probably a poor choice. It looks like this but with two strip lightbulbs laid across the top.

>>2836
You need better insulation - there is some stuff called foil-backed board, they sell it in Wickes in huge sheets - it is used for bathrooms. Get some of that and insulate the whole shed. Cover the fucking windows.

Also, make sure you have a circuit breaker.

>call up 101 and ask them politely to fuck off in advance?
Don't be silly.

>>2841
Striplights are a really poor choice. Look at LED lights and if you want to save money, look at the ones that aquariums use, particularly those people doing "planted tanks" as they'll be the right spectrum for you - particularly for seedlings where (whatever you are growing) it is all about the vegetative stage and not the flowering stage.

>>2843
They're ones specially made for seedlings. I do have some blue/pink LED lights too but they're better for smaller batches.

Rockwool or fibreglass insulation is a highly effective fire barrier. Lining a wooden shed with it will reduce rather than increase the risk of fire.

You can get cheap growtents, even small ones specifically made for propagators, which help hold some of the heat in, and they should completely block out any light from escaping. To some extent they also help the seedlings grow a bit better as they reflect the light all around which stops the seedlings from getting straggly.

>>2846
>cheap growtents

All the ones I've seen are really cheap though and if the OP is actually putting together some serious/home agribusiness then I dunno - bit shonky for my liking. If I was doing the same, I would DIY something a bit more permanent.

>>2847

Polyethylene damp-proofing membrane is very opaque and cheap as chips.

>>2847
>>2845
Hopefully I'll be able to kludge a shed extension together next spring, do something along those lines.

>>2848
Along those lines - I can also recommend rubber roofing, which is widely available now and a hundred times better than roofing felt; they're called EPDM membranes, work and look great, are made from recyclable materials, easy to fit and last 20 years+ - having recently done my own shed roof with it, I'm never touching roofing felt/bitumen ever again.

>>2850
Is there something solid under it to keep the shape?

>>2851
You still make the roof out of boards, usually OSB3 board; roofs are often made out of this stuff.

You just don't need to do much else to it (which is where it all starts to differ from a felt roof). It is glued down with water-based "decking glue" which is like PVA only stronger. A bit of care to make sure it goes down flat, but that is it - hundred percent waterproof and as long as you don't make holes in it, should stay that way for ages. People sell kits of the rubber/glue - mine was 80 quid for an 8x6 shed, which compares pretty well to a felt roof.

The rubber itself is about 1.5mm thick - quite heavy duty when you're handling it.

>>2852

Ta, thanks.

>>2838
>>2839
What if you set everything up to grow tomatoes, plod came and inspected and gave you the all-clear, and then as soon as they left swapped out the tomatoes for C. indica?

>>2854

Then you'd get into some hilarious scrapes and japes when later in the year the chief constable tells you he needs a hundred cheese and tomato sandwiches for the village fete.

>>2854
>plod came and inspected and gave you the all-clear

This literally doesn't exist. There is no inspection or "all-clear" you can get from the police. Sure, if it looks like you have a bunch of grow-lights, neighbours complain about the smell, or you're lighting up your roof like a christmas tree to passing helicopters, you could get a visit - but before that they'll look at your past record, bank accounts, even mobile phone records, as that stuff is so easy for them to do, without even visiting or needing any kind of warrant or excuse to visit. RIPA 2000 gave them all those powers.

>>2856
>before that they'll look at your past record, bank accounts, even mobile phone records,
I'm not particularly confident this will reassure them.

>>2856
I swear this thread is just convincing me more and more that spacebuckets are the best way to grow for yourself.

>>2858
If you're growing a small amount of weed for yourself then yes but those aren't very scalable.

>>2856
I'm confused now, because the posts I'm replying to explicitly say the police do come round and inspect if they suspect you might be growing weed.
>If some busybody complains they'll come round, have a quick peek and that'll be that.
>the police will come and scope it out to make sure you're not building a grow up in your back garden

Posting on .gs is infuriating sometimes because posters are so eager to contradict you that threads can end up making no logical sense. I feel like Winston Smith trying to keep up with the latest revisions.

>>2860

It'll show up as a hotspot on those secret things in the sky.

>>2860

The other poster is saying that you can't just call them up and say "I'm not growing weed, officer. I just wanted to clear that up before you get the wrong idea and waste your time coming over to investigate!" because the police were not born yesterday.

If they do suspect anything more incriminating than a very enthusiastic tomato patch, they'll come round and check unannounced, specifically so that you don't have time or advance warning to hide all your weed in the basement and put the tomato plants out.

>>2862

I didn't expect them to take my word for it, I just didn't want them to smash in my back doors in the course of checking.

>>2863

Then you'd best answer the door hadn't you.

>>2862
Yeah that's obvious, the point is that presumably once they have come round and checked, you'll no longer be suspicious to them for at least a while.

>>2866
>you'll no longer be suspicious to them for at least a while

Yeah because that's exactly how law enforcement authorities work. Once you've appeared on their radar once and they've checked you out, they just delete you from their database to save space. FFS.

>>2863
The police won't break anything on first suspicion. They may surprise you, but they won't smash in any door, much less the back door. It's basically a noise complaint unless there are other indicators your're doing something untoward. No reason to be paranoid, the plod don't care enough these days to become that aggressive. Once again, it's more down to your neighbours being busybodies than anything else.

>>2868
Thanks, that's all I really needed to know. The neighbours actively don't give a fuck.

>>2869

Several lads on the uk420 forums who actually were growing cannabis have written about their experience of getting busted. The common description is "the police knocked on the door, they were polite but firm, they took my plants and growlights but didn't trash the place, I got a summons to the Magistrates court and ended up with a £250 fine". It's clearly not a particularly high priority for anyone.

>>2867
No you're right, obviously the way the police work is that after they have inspected a grow site to see a person is growing tomatoes, if the next day their helicopter picks up a heat signature from the same address they'll immediately assume it's cannabis and send a squad to raid it. FFS.

>>2870
My brother got busted many many years ago - similar experience. I was more gutted about the fact he had borrowed all my (high quality) lighting gear and they took it.

>>2870

utopians are big fans of a stupified populace of state dependent serfs