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>> No. 29715 Anonymous
2nd June 2020
Tuesday 2:39 pm
29715 Coronavirus has done a number on me
I was fine with it at first, moved back with the parents away from my cramped London flat, found some weird novelty in it but coronavirus has started to take its toll on me. Has this happened to anybody else?

My job I was moving to abroad got canned because they shut their borders, I've no idea what the future looks like,my girlfriend I don't really think I love wants to move in together but I just don't think it's for me, I can't go to the job I want, I can't even go travelling, I'm just stuck in my job. I have one at least, I get it, but I just want the gym back, my office with a huge monitor back, haircuts and being able to get a plane anywhere.

It's just worn me down, feels a bit relentless and whilst it's helped me have a good think about my life I've hit my limit. Any coping strategies you lads are employing?
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>> No. 29716 Anonymous
2nd June 2020
Tuesday 3:18 pm
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Have you tried not being a passive consumer with no meaning in your life beyond a girlfriend you don't really love, work and gym?

(A good day to you Sir!)
>> No. 29717 Anonymous
2nd June 2020
Tuesday 3:30 pm
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I have found lots of small benefits from lockdown, I've learnt lots of skills in lockdown, I've reconnected my love of nature and done lots of little things, but I don't make a secret in that exercise and self care is a big part of my life. Neither is finding that meaning in a job I am very interested in somewhere else consumerist.

The gym gives me space to exercise those frustrations and improve myself and doing nearly all cardio doesn't cut it.

It still hits me how dire this situation has made things in many respects, I'm not sure how working out, doing a job and having a girlfriend makes me a consumer though?
>> No. 29718 Anonymous
2nd June 2020
Tuesday 3:48 pm
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>I'm not sure how working out, doing a job and having a girlfriend makes me a consumer though?

It's just someone trying to be a twat, which everyone knows we don't do on /emo/.
>> No. 29719 Anonymous
2nd June 2020
Tuesday 3:52 pm
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It'll be alright lad, this too shall pass.
>> No. 29720 Anonymous
2nd June 2020
Tuesday 5:28 pm
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It sounds like you're suffering from pretty much the same thoughts as I am. All of my depression/anxiety coping strategies (gym and sports) are currently in the bin and I can feel myself slowly start to unravel under the stress of it.

I wish I could offer more in the way of advice, but at the moment all I can think of to do is try to distract myself with work and side projects until things get back to something resembling normal, whenever that might be.

You also have to remember that having a job with any kind of stability and staying healthy leave you in a pretty lucky position right now as it is.

> That post is already in the report list.

Good job, boys.
>> No. 29721 Anonymous
2nd June 2020
Tuesday 5:29 pm
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Try and take the time to disconnect your desires from THE MACHINE. Find time to reflect, find some slow hobbies, take up gardening? Try and make a spot to work out that doesn't feel too claustrophobic. Invest or create some equipment to use that helps.

Travel has always been pushed as this englightening pathway but I think we need to wean ourselves off it. There's so much good within this country that you can see and appreciate at a lower cost to the environment.

This is all what I've been thinking and it might not work for you. I'm just sick of living in a society that's completely incapable of actioning towards long term good so I'm trying to live as independently as I can manage within it.
>> No. 29722 Anonymous
2nd June 2020
Tuesday 6:46 pm
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Not him, but lines like:

>I can't go to the job I want, I can't even go travelling

do come off as a bit entitled.

I'm not saying you are, but it kind of comes with the territory in this sort of situation that you can't have all the nice things you want; some people handle that better than others, but I can't help but feel a little bit like this is exactly the sort of learning experience a lot of people needed. I'm sure you already know this, but some people's daily existence has always been like this. Go back thirty years and people didn't have a lot of the things you probably take for granted.

I'm not trying to be preachy, this is just one of those little things that's always come into my mind concerning times of hardship and deprivation. That hippy Buddhist idea about materialism and hedonistic pleasures ultimately being hollow and weighing you down. Learn to be happy and contented without them and you will always be free. At very least, think about broadening your horizons in terms of hobbies, and where you find meaning in life- Sports and physical fitness are great, but you shouldn't underestimate the importance of solitary, meditative indoor pursuits. I'm sure the lads who paint Warhammer all day have been pretty content through the lockdown.

Personally I've probably got my guitar chops the tightest they've been since I was 21, and I feel a lot better about myself as a result. There have been many times over the years that it's got me seriously depressed how good I used to be when I was a teenlad who could just lock myself in my bedroom and practice all weekend, and how sloppy I've become as an adult. I think in future I'm actually going to make more of a point to say nah, I'm not going to go to that obligatory social gathering this weekend, I'm going to stay at home and learn Coroner riffs.
>> No. 29724 Anonymous
2nd June 2020
Tuesday 7:27 pm
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>I'm not sure how working out, doing a job and having a girlfriend makes me a consumer though?
I was listing the things you do, the cheap air travel is the consumer part.
>> No. 29725 Anonymous
2nd June 2020
Tuesday 7:54 pm
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Not him, but I don't think travel is especially consumerist. If he'd complaining that he couldn't go out and buy new clothes or that he'd put off buying a new car because what's the point if we can't go anywhere that'd be more in line with consumerism, for me.

Personally I'm so used to being shunted around the world like a ping pong ball that actually being at home in one place for this long feels very, very weird. Not weird enough to make me question my sanity (plenty of other things for that) but weird enough to make me realise that life inside your flat is a fair bit more boring than life when you can go outside and do other stuff, even if that stuff is just play fighting with other men or lifting heavy things up and down.
>> No. 29726 Anonymous
2nd June 2020
Tuesday 8:34 pm
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"It's just lockdown, init" I've said to a few people already, after they've told me they're struggling and back on anti-depressants. It's a legitimate responce, I'm sure - meant to wash over the difficulty we're all experiencing - but so too is our reaction to limited social engagement and radical lifestyle changes imposed because of this epidemic.

I'm not sure what to make of it. Would we all be mostly okay if this didn't happen? Would we continue to ignore our actual desires in favour of blowing on the wind with everyone else?
>> No. 29727 Anonymous
2nd June 2020
Tuesday 8:44 pm
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Frivolous travel is absolutely consumerism.
>> No. 29728 Anonymous
2nd June 2020
Tuesday 9:47 pm
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> Frivolous

Do feel free to shove your dubious moralism right up your jacksie whenever you like, you massive maiden aunt with a maidenhead the size of Maidenhead.
>> No. 29729 Anonymous
2nd June 2020
Tuesday 9:51 pm
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At the end of the day, it really does come round to how introverted and extroverted you are. I'm fairly introverted myself so lockdown has been a breeze but I have mates who are honestly really struggling with the lack of social interaction and activities.

I know this feeling all too well but it's really hard to keep going with guitar gains when you've got all the other daily life stuff going on. If I wasn't programming and could actually see my bandmate, I'd probably be chugging away on the scales and fingerpicking myself.
>> No. 29730 Anonymous
3rd June 2020
Wednesday 9:23 am
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The difference between
>being able to get a plane in an emergency for a really good reason
>get a plane anywhere
is not dubious.
>> No. 29731 Anonymous
3rd June 2020
Wednesday 1:13 pm
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Yeah fuck people who have to travel for work I guess.
>> No. 29732 Anonymous
3rd June 2020
Wednesday 1:19 pm
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"Have to".
>> No. 29733 Anonymous
3rd June 2020
Wednesday 1:33 pm
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Lads I was just feeling a bit down.

I'm not entitled, I'm nota consumer and yes I do enjoy a holiday. Suffering is relative right? If we get into this race to the bottom then you can never complain about anything because somebody always has it worse, so put up with whatever happens.

I worked hard to get to the position I'm in and ironically through being a bit anti-consumerist (not political, just don't see the point in wasting money on tat) I had saved for my alternative which was to go see the world, hardly a huge sin.

I just wanted some advice on coping with the feels of it all but as usual somebody has to argue about an obscure pedantic aspect and derail. I regret making the thread, apologies to everybody who has wasted their time on it so far.
>> No. 29735 Anonymous
3rd June 2020
Wednesday 1:48 pm
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>Suffering is relative right? If we get into this race to the bottom then you can never complain about anything because somebody always has it worse, so put up with whatever happens.

Yeah, and staying mindful of that is a great part of what should ultimately get you through times like this. Apart from one troll nobody has said you're a bad person for feeling down, but I think it's pretty valid to say that for you, this pain will be temporary. For many people it is not.

My own post was more that it's a good idea to build your resilience to things like this because ultimately, you never know what might happen. This whole thing has been completely out of your control. For all we know there might be worse in store yet, that takes even more of our creature comforts away; in the end all any of us can do is make the best of the hand we're dealt. Building the strength of character to stay happy with less in your life will only ever benefit you.
>> No. 29738 Anonymous
3rd June 2020
Wednesday 5:07 pm
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Lads, if you're not gonna offer OP any words of advice or address his post then could you not just fuck off with your boring petty bickering going over the same shite you've done a million times before. Make thread somewhere else. You're in /emo/, be helpful or piss off.

It's been getting to me as well mate, been proper up n down the last couple weeks. Random bouts of having a bit of a cry and then the next day feeling alright.

Personally my coping strategies have been chopping and changing a bit. Bought a PS4 at the beginning of lockdown, rinsed gta, red dead and a couple other games then got fucking sick of it, it's now gathering dust. It did help for a bit though.

Been drinking which is obviously not a great strategy but I've managed to keep it to evenings and although I've had a few heavy nights have reigned it back to a couple beers and the occasional night cap (usually).

Was meditating for the first few weeks, that's been sacked off but should really force myself back into the habit as it makes a noticeable difference to my mental health.

Making the effort to see friends if you can makes a massive difference even if it's just sitting in a park for an hour and having a natter.

I think it's just a combination of things innit, like allowing yourself days to feel like shit and not being hard on yourself for it but also realising you need to make an effort to not wallow in it.

I think making a concerted effort to not get sucked into social media and the news at the moment makes a fucking huge difference. Shit is proper fucked obviously but if you just have a day or two of not getting involved at all it amazing the difference it makes, ignore that shit and just go for a long walk and it's astounding how much it can help your head out. It's absolutely toxic at the moment.

I also do some art stuff when I can actually motivate myself (which can be a struggle) to do it that it also helps a lot to get lost in that.

And just the usual stuff as well, eating healthily, getting decent sleep, getting outdoors and all that shit.

I dunno if any of that's any help but that's how I've been tryna cope and I've had some proper down days of just feeling like hopeless shite. In fact the last couple have been like that, but actually today I feel pretty good! It's all temporary innit, or maybe it's the comforting grey cloud and cooler temps. Who knows.

Best of luck lad, it'll get better eventually.
>> No. 29741 Anonymous
3rd June 2020
Wednesday 7:14 pm
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I've already offered op the best advice I can. Apologies for cunting off with the cunt but as the mods obviously don't want to ban him (despite his posts being reported multiple times) I felt like I needed to tell him to fuck off.

I will now hide this thread as to not mess it up further.
>> No. 29742 Anonymous
3rd June 2020
Wednesday 7:17 pm
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>You're in /emo/, be helpful or piss off.

This should be stickied.
>> No. 29745 Anonymous
4th June 2020
Thursday 2:06 pm
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Thank you mate - really appreciate this post.

Grateful if you could recommend any getting into meditation guides, but theseare all really helpful suggestions and I think what I was not honest about in this thread when I posted it, is that I was probably just hoping somebody would chime in and say 'yeah same, it fucking sucks you're not alone.'

On a lighter note the job I wanted rang me today to say they still want me when this blows over, so there is hope on the horizon.
>> No. 29746 Anonymous
4th June 2020
Thursday 6:33 pm
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>Thank you mate - really appreciate this post.

No worries, was probably helpful for me to post it as well.

In terms of meditation guides it's kind of hard to say, think you probably just need to try a few things and see what works for you. Lots of people have told me like that headspace app has worked for them and there's a million guided meditation things on youtube.

Personally I've worked out my own little routine that starts of just counting breaths and then if I start to feel settled I do some other breathing stuff and that's about it. When I first started trying to get into a proper practice I found going to a drop in group session was really useful just in terms of doing it in a group and being forced into a longer meditation than I'd do myself. Obviously not an option atm though. My main thing is to try and go into it with the right intention as in to try not to see it as a chore or a thing you HAVE to do, but rather as 10/15/20 time for yourself where you're allowed to not worry and stress about stuff. Which is easier said than done obviously.

And as I said in the previous post I've fallen out the habit myself so am a bit of a hypocrite. I think trying to maintain the habit can be the hardest thing, for me at least. But when I do I feel a bit better in my head.

>I was probably just hoping somebody would chime in and say 'yeah same, it fucking sucks you're not alone.'

You're not, and I'd imagine there are plenty of other lads on here who are feeling the same but might not even feel up to typing up a post. And just anecdotally speaking to mates irl lots of people are having a hard time in all sorts of ways.

Anyways I'm waffling on.

>On a lighter note the job I wanted rang me today to say they still want me when this blows over, so there is hope on the horizon.

Nice, glad to hear it mate!
>> No. 29747 Anonymous
4th June 2020
Thursday 9:19 pm
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I think I've kept sane because I've just been too busy with work to worry. I'm not actually getting much done at home but then nothing focuses the mind like a deadline.

Maybe you can try keeping yourself busy with an online course. The sense of progress and just generally keeping yourself occupied is something I've found helpful throughout my life. That said, I think everyone has been getting those moments though where you just want to get out the house and live your life again.

Seconding the good nights sleep. As my commute has been cut right down I've been able to get much more sleep than I used to. It makes a world of difference.
>> No. 29749 Anonymous
6th June 2020
Saturday 10:54 am
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You're not alone.

If you don't want to try headspace then there's this:


Which I made into podcast form for ease: https://fourble.co.uk/podcast/reltech
>> No. 29750 Anonymous
6th June 2020
Saturday 11:22 am
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Also because you're missing the gym, you can try this site which tailors exercises according to what equipment you have https://www.fitnessblender.com

Or the NHS site https://www.nhs.uk/live-well/exercise/gym-free-workouts/
>> No. 29751 Anonymous
6th June 2020
Saturday 4:57 pm
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I actually managed to do 15 minutes for the first time in a few weeks and feel more chill. Might try another 15 once it gets dark if I haven't got half pissed first.

Do any of you bodhisattva lads have any tips for maintaining the habit? I often keep it up for a few weeks and then inevitably just let it slip, I mean I guess it's just self discipline really isn't it? It just often feels a lot easier to crack a beer.

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