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>> No. 30452 Anonymous
23rd February 2021
Tuesday 12:12 pm
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0S4SiLxt1s

Some years ago in a local Lidl, an entire shop worth of people including myself witnessed an adult menace and physically abuse a child. None of us did anything except look away and express condemnation in hussed tones afterwards. We cared for nothing but our own embarrassment, and showed that to the child.

For a long time I thought I was waiting for an opportunity to show a heroic character - to do something 'selfless' - but since neglecting that child I've realised I've been offered many, and the proof of my self is in my reaction now.

How can I go on morally knowing that children are being abused, while I sit here doing nothing? How I we make things right?
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>> No. 30453 Anonymous
23rd February 2021
Tuesday 12:34 pm
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Where you see ideal things, I see what is -
human, alas, all-too-human.

>> No. 30454 Anonymous
23rd February 2021
Tuesday 12:55 pm
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>For a long time I thought I was waiting for an opportunity to show a heroic character - to do something 'selfless' - but since neglecting that child I've realised I've been offered many, and the proof of my self is in my reaction now.

I'm not sure on the story itself because I wasn't there but there's an aside that Camus uses at the end of The Plague about every man having an hour every day where he is a coward. You didn't say anything and now regret it so there's a compulsion to be different in future - a real coward would merely justify it to preserve his self-schema. I'm aware of the irony

You and everyone around slipped up and that's fine. We'd all be better off if we were more aware that people just fuck up sometimes. The pain and guilt of regret merely serve a lesson for future. Although to clarify on my opening - if it was a parent and child you ought to be careful, don't jump into things or run away with a superman complex.

>How can I go on morally knowing that children are being abused, while I sit here doing nothing? How I we make things right?

You can't, life is incredibly complicated and simple solutions often cause more harm than good. If, for example, you heard the neighbours being abusive to their children you turn the telly down to confirm what you're hearing and then call the NSPC who are the experts on the matter.
>> No. 30455 Anonymous
23rd February 2021
Tuesday 1:25 pm
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Volunteer with or take a pay cut to work at a NGO that you find is the most effective at helping kids (or just people in general if you're not so specific-minded). Generally do your best not to let other opportunities pass you by.

There'll be countless small things you can do when you start looking for them, but there's no one, big sweeping gesture you can do to make things right, no matter how much you do it may never feel like enough. But it can be more than nothing.
>> No. 30456 Anonymous
23rd February 2021
Tuesday 1:28 pm
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>>30454
>You can't, life is incredibly complicated and simple solutions often cause more harm than good.

Have to echo this lad. There's absolutely no telling whether intervening would have earned the kid an additional walloping later for "causing a fuss" or "embarrassing them" when no one is around to help.

The bystander effect is disturbing, I agree, but it's not so much a moral failure of human beings -- the fact you wanted to help shows otherwise -- rather it's a combination of other factors, such as recognition of the limits of our power to control the actions of others.
>> No. 30457 Anonymous
23rd February 2021
Tuesday 1:56 pm
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If we put ourselves in OP's shoes, what could one do? What are the viable options? There seem like very few, and even fewer if you had to come up with them in the heat of the moment.
>> No. 30458 Anonymous
23rd February 2021
Tuesday 2:03 pm
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>>30457
Taking the piss out of people acting like cunts usually works, puts them in the spotlight and they have to try and justify their actions, if they get upset they only make things worse for themselves. Bring back public shaming, I say.
>> No. 30459 Anonymous
23rd February 2021
Tuesday 2:21 pm
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OP, you taught the kid a very important lesson: it's every man for himself, nobody is going to help ever. He should be grateful to you for teaching him such a concept. I was abused as a kid, it only stopped when my father had a strange domestic accident including a pot of boiling water. Nobody else helped, and my whore mother only made things worse. That's life. He was shit, the child abuser in LIDL was shit, you were shit for not helping, I am shit for various things that I cannot talk about here. Everything is shit.
>> No. 30460 Anonymous
23rd February 2021
Tuesday 2:35 pm
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>>30457

I can say that I am one of those people that does intervene, I have step in-between people before they get into fights I have restrained and tackled strangers who are about to hit another stranger with an object. I've literally picked up a collapse person like in this experiment >>30453 several times, one time it was on the way to a job interview just outside which leads me to believe it might have been some sort of test of character.

And the reactions people have to that is strange, people treat it like it is bravado when I talk about that I would do it, and at the time people treat it like I have done something really stupid, hostilely so, or they treat it like nothing happened at all and just return to normality instantly.

I'll grant you I can't rationalize, it is a snap decision where 99% of people go one way and I go the other, the needs of the self are outweighed by the situation, is my reaction perfect, no, but the point is I acted, and I think I sleep better with my fuck ups. Even when I accidently kidnapped a sick cat thinking it was a stray and had to have an awkward conversation with the owner the next day.
>> No. 30461 Anonymous
23rd February 2021
Tuesday 2:40 pm
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>>30456

My dad and his mate were coming home from a night out once and saw a bloke pushing his girlfriend about, they challenged him and ended up being set on by both the abuser and the girlfriend. It's a very common scenario in domestic abuse situations, due to a combination of Stockholm Syndrome and the victim perhaps fearing a worse beating from the abuser later on due to failing to come to their aid.

Also, my sister was once sexually harassed on the bus late at night by a gang of chav scumbags; another teenager bravely told them to leave her alone, at which point the gang promptly beat the shit out of him before fleeing the bus. My point being, playing the Good Samaritan, while seeming like the honourable thing to do, almost never turns out well in reality and will more likely than not land you either in a police cell or in hospital depending on the outcome. Even if you somehow magically channel your inner Bruce Lee and deck the bad guy, in this day and age with phone cameras and social media there's every chance that your "assault" on them could be filmed and taken completely out of context and get you fired from your job or worse.
>> No. 30462 Anonymous
23rd February 2021
Tuesday 2:51 pm
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>>30461

>> a combination of Stockholm Syndrome and the victim perhaps fearing a worse beating from the abuser later on due to failing to come to their aid.

That's only partly true. Cunts get turned on by abuse and by seeing their mate bullying and abusing other people. My (whore) mother was completely unable to defend herself or her sons, but she became fierce and corageous everytime she had to defend her abusive husband. She lied to police, teachers and social services to protect the same husband that would beat her up, steal money from her and give her STD's. Years later, my girlfriends confided to me that they were turned on when I abused them. Cunts needs to be fucked, otherwise they will fuck you.
>> No. 30464 Anonymous
24th February 2021
Wednesday 5:40 pm
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>>30462

I would hope to save children from developing exactly this attitude - it's clearly a very distressing one to foster.

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