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>> No. 25512 Anonymous
2nd September 2016
Friday 2:27 pm
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Lads,

My trusty 1TB HDD I've had for about 7 years now has got 16,000 hours on the clock. Should I start to look into replacing it or if it's made it this long, do you reckon it'll be fine?
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>> No. 25513 Anonymous
2nd September 2016
Friday 2:54 pm
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>>25512
>trusty
Or not?
>> No. 25514 Anonymous
2nd September 2016
Friday 3:05 pm
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>>25512

Does it have SMART built in? (I was working on code to read SMART data back in 2006, so the technology existed, but I've purchased disks more recently than that that didn't support it). If so check the remapped sector count, if it's above zero replace it immediately.

Otherwise, if there's nothing actually wrong with it .... it probably depends on how important what's on there is to you and how often you back it up. If it's not important and/or you have backups then wait to replace the disk when fails. If it's important to you and you don't have backups then you fucked up a long time ago, so to speak.

Sage for just woke up data storage ramblings.
>> No. 25515 Anonymous
2nd September 2016
Friday 3:10 pm
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>>25514
Of course I back up everything important, but I was talking more specifically about the disk. The reallocated sectors count is at 200, with a threshold of 140, apparently. Is it fucked?
>> No. 25516 Anonymous
2nd September 2016
Friday 5:37 pm
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At this point you can get 4TB drives for under £100. Might as well replace it.
>> No. 25517 Anonymous
2nd September 2016
Friday 6:28 pm
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>>25516

Or you culd pay 15 quid and get a 1TB flashdrive. What. The. Actual. Fuck. I remember when those cost 1.5k. Time to order two...
>> No. 25518 Anonymous
2nd September 2016
Friday 6:34 pm
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>>25517
>Or you culd pay 15 quid and get a 1TB flashdrive
I don't think you can, actually...
>> No. 25519 Anonymous
2nd September 2016
Friday 7:01 pm
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>>25518

I would politely beg to differ. I am not attesting to lifespan, but you can.

Even if they last 6 months it would make my life significantly easier.

Especially while I wait for my custom models to come through.
>> No. 25520 Anonymous
2nd September 2016
Friday 8:03 pm
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>>25519
Links or it doesn't happen.
>> No. 25521 Anonymous
2nd September 2016
Friday 8:13 pm
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>>25520

How good is your (Kaiping dialect) Traditional Chinese?

Sorry lad, this is from a trade show in the Canton region. I wondered why my mate had bothered to email me the advert. Now I get it.
>> No. 25522 Anonymous
2nd September 2016
Friday 8:36 pm
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>>25512
Is there a literal clock? Where can I check mine?
>> No. 25523 Anonymous
2nd September 2016
Friday 8:43 pm
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>>25515

> The reallocated sectors count is at 200, with a threshold of 140, apparently. Is it fucked?

Yes. Failure is probably imminent. I replace any disk I give a shit about when reallocated sector count goes above zero. At your count there probably aren't enough spare sectors left to reallocate unreadable/unwritable sectors to and uou are probably actively losing data from the disk at this point.
>> No. 25524 Anonymous
2nd September 2016
Friday 8:47 pm
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>>25521

Not him, but most chinese flash drives > 1gb are are 1gb flash drives with modified firmware to make them advertise more space. Hell, if you're going to sell a 1gb flash drive as 64gb, why not go the whole hog and flog it as a 1tb flash drive? Those silly round eyed bastards will never know the difference anyway.

I'm only half joking, but if someone's found a way to produce a 1tb flash drive for about half the production cost of a decent 128gb one then I'll eat not just my hat, but anyone's hat.
>> No. 25525 Anonymous
2nd September 2016
Friday 8:59 pm
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>>25524

My view is: fuck it, gamble 15 quid and see if you are getting ones made on the side from the factories supplying SanDisk...

If this works I will let you lads know. If I remember.

Anyhoo, for me it is stop-gap anyways. I have a batch of 2TB drives almost ready to be produced, I just need to finalise aesthetics before the order goes to the maunfacturers. This is with a serious, known, player in the memory game. Lifetime gurantees and all. Oh, one of my specifications was that they should be able to survive a direct blow from a five kilo ball peen. These aren't cheap, but they will serve there purpose admirably for many a year to come. MilSpec++ is appparently what they are being referred to in house.
>> No. 25526 Anonymous
2nd September 2016
Friday 9:03 pm
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>>25517

Cheap, high-capacity flash drives are a well-known con. The memory controller chip has been reprogrammed to misreport the capacity. There's a small amount of actual flash memory, so the drive seems to work fine when you test it out. The scam only becomes apparent when you fill up that memory and the files start vanishing down /dev/null.

It's simply not possible to buy 1TB of flash memory for £15, even if you're using the nastiest grey market chips. A fairly sketchy 128GB TLC NAND chip costs about £7. Making a practical USB drive is even more expensive, because you need to use a small number of high-capacity chips to keep the size down.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/gds/All-About-Fake-Flash-Drives-2013-/10000000177553258/g.html
>> No. 25528 Anonymous
2nd September 2016
Friday 9:14 pm
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>>25526

>gamble 15 quid and see if you are getting ones made on the side from the factories supplying SanDisk...

This is not beyond the realms of probability lad. I know how the Chinese manufacturers work. As I say, a gamble, but given as I have invested a serious wedge to provide in house destruction proof 2TBs, can we assume that I may have at least a slight innkling of the memory market, and from previous posts a possibly a knowledge of Chinese production? Call it a 20% chance.

At the end of the day the money is no skin off my nose.


On a note:

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/01/09/swiss_penknife_ssd/

Tech is there. I almost bought one of these fuckers because they would be damn cool as it turned out I guessed correctly at the time that having this bit of kit might save me more money than it cost. Ho hum.
>> No. 25530 Anonymous
2nd September 2016
Friday 9:41 pm
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>>25528

The tech exists, it just costs £600.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00E65QM8O/
>> No. 25531 Anonymous
2nd September 2016
Friday 9:42 pm
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>>25530
Exactly - not fifteen quid, yet.
>> No. 25532 Anonymous
2nd September 2016
Friday 10:35 pm
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>>25525
>>25528
You are really full of yourself and I hate how you type/speak.
>> No. 25533 Anonymous
2nd September 2016
Friday 11:44 pm
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>>25531

That article is years old mate.


>>25532

Please elaborate, ladchapm7.
>> No. 25534 Anonymous
3rd September 2016
Saturday 9:21 am
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>>25528
>given as I have invested a serious wedge to provide in house destruction proof 2TBs, can we assume that I may have at least a slight innkling of the memory market, and from previous posts a possibly a knowledge of Chinese production?
No. Link a 1TB flashdrive selling for £15 or fuck off and stop using this thread to huff your own farts.
>> No. 25535 Anonymous
3rd September 2016
Saturday 10:32 am
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>>25523
I was reading the wrong value. The actual value is 0x00, which means it's fine. I'm probably going to get an SSD to dump my games on anyway, and just use this for data -- Fallout 4 gets a bit laggy in the new DLC because my disk is being maxed out quite a bit.

>>25522
Any S.M.A.R.T. software. CrystalDiskInfo is the one I use.
>> No. 25536 Anonymous
3rd September 2016
Saturday 10:33 am
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>>25534
Not either of you, but to preempt the smartarses I'll add "and isn't a fraud" to your criteria, given the well known problems of dodgy storage on sale.
>> No. 25537 Anonymous
3rd September 2016
Saturday 3:04 pm
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>>25535

Do you not have an SSD? It's the biggest upgrade you can make to any PC. They're really not that expensive these days - you can buy a quality 240GB SSD for less than £60.

http://www.ebuyer.com/738570-toshiba-240gb-q300-sata-iii-2-5inch-ssd-hdts824ezsta
>> No. 25538 Anonymous
3rd September 2016
Saturday 4:25 pm
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>>25537
I have an SSD, but not a large one.
>> No. 25539 Anonymous
3rd September 2016
Saturday 11:28 pm
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>>25538

BADUM TISH

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJJHk4hSFB4

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