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>> No. 25884 Anonymous
25th April 2017
Tuesday 11:09 am
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I'm in the market for a laptop, but I'm not sure if I can get away with meeting all my criteria.

- It'll be purely for business, the most demanding thing it will be opening is numerous Chrome tabs.
- It needs to run Windows software, with MS Office.
- I want it to be lightweight and no bigger than an A4 pad.

Is there any chance of me getting this for around £200?

I've been seeing refurbished X series Thinkpads from as little as £100, but maybe this is dodgy?

Do you lads know of something better?
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>> No. 25885 Anonymous
25th April 2017
Tuesday 1:47 pm
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>> No. 25886 Anonymous
25th April 2017
Tuesday 2:07 pm
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The refurb X-series machines are ace. They're relatively thick and heavy by modern standards, but they're also fast, durable and easy to repair or upgrade. The battery life isn't great compared to a modern ultraportable or Chromebook, but performance is excellent. Avoid the X201, as you can find an X220 for about the same price or an X230 for a little more.

The battery might be very tired in some of these machines, so budget for a replacement. It's also well worth considering an SSD upgrade, as it'll shave the boot time down to a few seconds and make the machine feel much more responsive. The X220 and above have an mSATA slot, so you can fit both a hard drive and an SSD if desired. A small mSATA SSD can cost as little as £20 on eBay.

The only reasonable alternative in that price range would be a cheap ultraportable like the Asus E200HA. These machines are just barely adequate in performance, but they're extremely lightweight and achieve phenomenal battery life. They're basically a Windows tablet with a keyboard bolted on, for better and for worse. Fine for basic browsing and office tasks, but they'll bog down quickly if you ask too much of them. You're looking at about £180 new or £130 b-stock.
>> No. 25887 Anonymous
25th April 2017
Tuesday 4:21 pm
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People throw away laptops with those sorts of capabilities at the skip. Get down there quick and have a rummage, you might save some poor African kid the trouble.
>> No. 25888 Anonymous
25th April 2017
Tuesday 7:33 pm
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Agreed - many of the T series and X series of Lenovo are actually still IBM designs in disguise, before Lenovo bought them. They are very very good PCs and what I would have were I not a Mac person. We use them extensively at work, also. You can pick them up s/h very easily and they are quite upgradable and fixable.
>> No. 25889 Anonymous
25th April 2017
Tuesday 8:52 pm
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Thanks lads, I went with an X100E, which is meant to be highly portable. I'll report back whether it's up to much as a laptop.


A bigger or more fancy laptop really wouldn't suit my needs here. No sense in spending more than I have to.
>> No. 25890 Anonymous
25th April 2017
Tuesday 9:56 pm
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Good advice.
>It's also well worth considering an SSD upgrade
I would say that an SSD is one of the most important considerations for a new laptop (or PC for that matter). There's been plenty of evangelism for them here in the past so I'll spare you the sales pitch, but get one, even if it means getting a machine that's shittier in other ways.
>> No. 25891 Anonymous
26th April 2017
Wednesday 1:26 am
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Yep - easiest and most effective PC upgrade out there at the moment.
>> No. 26747 Anonymous
4th October 2018
Thursday 11:27 am
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Reporting back. The X100E I got was crap.

I actually have some money, now, so I'm looking for more or less the same thing but can budget up to about £600.

I'm thinking about a Chromebook, but suspect there's some drawback I haven't considered.
>> No. 26748 Anonymous
4th October 2018
Thursday 11:44 am
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Can't run Windows software, unless that's no longer a requirement for you.
>> No. 26749 Anonymous
4th October 2018
Thursday 11:46 am
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Really? That is quite strange, there's guides to install them, e.g. https://support.office.com/en-us/article/how-to-install-and-run-microsoft-office-on-a-chromebook-32f14a23-2c1a-4579-b973-d4b1d78561ad
>> No. 26750 Anonymous
4th October 2018
Thursday 12:10 pm
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Seconding the X220. I lost one after getting really drunk and liked it so much I replaced it with another one. It was only £120 so the loss didn't sting too badly.

An SSD is a good suggestion too. My X220 feels faster and more responsive than my fancy gaming PC simply because of the SSD.

You zigged when you should've zagged. The X100e and X120e aren't really considered legit Thinkpads and are regarded as pretty shit.
>> No. 26751 Anonymous
4th October 2018
Thursday 12:25 pm
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There's a web app version of Office. Chromebooks run a custom Linux distribution and won't run any native Windows software. Most new Chromebooks do run Android apps, which is handy.
>> No. 26752 Anonymous
4th October 2018
Thursday 12:55 pm
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Right, I've got you. So it's not the full fat version. I'll have a think about whether this will be enough for work.

>You zigged when you should've zagged.

Story of my life. I can see a few used models of X220 with the same specs as the Chromebooks but much cheaper at £200 or so.

Thanks bruvs. I'll probably end up buying one soon.
>> No. 26753 Anonymous
4th October 2018
Thursday 12:57 pm
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If you wanted to tell me that it *can* run native Windows software, why did you link me to an install guide for the Android version of Office?
>> No. 26754 Anonymous
4th October 2018
Thursday 1:26 pm
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Because it's a (lesser) version of the office suite that can be run from a Chromebook, and I wasn't aware of the difference between office apps and the full programs. No cunt-off today, thank you.
>> No. 26755 Anonymous
4th October 2018
Thursday 1:43 pm
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>No cunt-off today, thank you.

Good luck with your new Thinkpad, m8.
>> No. 26756 Anonymous
4th October 2018
Thursday 6:36 pm
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I know it's too late but I need to tell you all how good the X series thinkpads are. I have a 220 and a 230 just because I can. Still shows up a Macbook pro in my opinion.
>> No. 26757 Anonymous
4th October 2018
Thursday 6:50 pm
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An X230 is actually what I'm looking at right now, attracted by the 8GB RAM.

Is the entire laptop about the size of an A4 book? Also, is the screen a good usable size for student/work tasks?
>> No. 26758 Anonymous
4th October 2018
Thursday 7:27 pm
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>> No. 26759 Anonymous
4th October 2018
Thursday 8:00 pm
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>Is the entire laptop about the size of an A4 book?

Pretty much exactly. If you have one of the larger batteries it sticks out a bit more, but it still fits in a 13" MBP sleeve.

>Also, is the screen a good usable size for student/work tasks?

This is where I have to admit the X series isn't perfect. The screen itself isn't a bad size, but the resolution isn't amazing. You might struggle for real estate. Personally I'm very happy with it and use to do all of my business work, so a lot of word and excel. I have good eyes, your mileage may vary. I know a lot of people recommend the Thinkpad T430, which is essentially a 14" version of the X230, but for me the portability and battery life of the X series wins out.

For what it's worth I think the people who really struggle with the X230 screen size are programmers.
>> No. 26760 Anonymous
4th October 2018
Thursday 10:15 pm
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>This is where I have to admit the X series isn't perfect. The screen itself isn't a bad size, but the resolution isn't amazing.

It's the downside of buying a cheap older model. The X280 is available with a 1080p screen, but you'll pay over a grand for the privilege.

There is a kit available to upgrade the X230 to a 1080p screen, but it does require some soldering to install.

>> No. 26761 Anonymous
5th October 2018
Friday 4:18 am
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I have seen the FHD mod, though I've heard some people say that you can get flickering issues and such. I'm happy enough with the size it is, personally. I had planned to get a nice big monitor for my desk for working on bigger stuff, but honestly I've not felt the need yet.

Here's mine. 2.5" hard drive for scale.
>> No. 26811 Anonymous
16th November 2018
Friday 2:33 pm
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Hello again lads. I still haven't bought a new bastard laptop and have been struggling along with the X100e. It's unusably slow.

At some point I intend to drop £300 - £400 on a decent one. The other ThinkPads looked great, but I've also been tempted away by the IdeaPad.

That aside, is there anything I can do to make the x100e perform better until I'm sure I can spunk the money? It's crippled with running a few tabs with Microsoft Edge in Windows 10 at the moment. Any recommendations?
>> No. 26812 Anonymous
16th November 2018
Friday 2:40 pm
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Install an SSD, if it doesn't already have one.
Install more RAM, if it's not already maxed out.
Install a lightweight Linux distribution if you swing that way, such as Xubuntu.

If you want to stick with Windows, try disabling all graphical effects and the like.
>> No. 26813 Anonymous
16th November 2018
Friday 3:04 pm
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As said, an SSD is a huge performance boost in older machines. You can also try to blast out any dust that might (definitely will) be caking the cooling fans and vents, as if it's running hot enough the CPU might be thermal throttling too, I've seen that happen a lot.
>> No. 26814 Anonymous
16th November 2018
Friday 4:59 pm
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It probably isn't worth upgrading. The x100e has a feeble single-core Athlon Neo processor with a PassMark score of 409. It was piss-poor in 2010 and it's utterly unusable today. By comparison, the slowest processor in Intel's current desktop lineup has a Passmark score of 3,269 and an i7-7700k scores over 12,000. No matter what you do, it's grossly bottlenecked by that dog of a processor.

You don't need to spend £300 to get something vastly quicker than your current machine. A Thinkpad X220 will set you back about £120; the default processor in that machine is an i5-2520M, which has a Passmark score of 3,588. The very cheapest Chromebook would be a significant upgrade, as would any old laptop with an Intel Core-series processor.

A lightweight Linux distribution might help a bit. If you're not using an adblocker, for the love of god install uBlock Origin - ads and ad trackers have a huge CPU load. Firefox Reader Mode is very useful on slow machines, because it strips out all of the CSS and Javascript.
>> No. 26815 Anonymous
16th November 2018
Friday 8:09 pm
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Excellent advice. SSD and RAM is always the way to rescue a slow, old computer.
>> No. 26903 Anonymous
3rd December 2018
Monday 8:55 am
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Hallo again fellas. I bought a swanky new laptop which I'm very happy with.

What should I do with the old X110e? It's basically unusable and dead weight to me now, but being a thrifty person I don't just want to throw it away. Any useful spares I can salvage from it? Should I perform a factory reset and just give it away?
>> No. 26906 Anonymous
3rd December 2018
Monday 7:30 pm
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If you don't mind lots of fucking about you can buy yourself an enclosure for about £16 and turn the hard-drive into big ol' memory stick. I'm fucking knackered right now so in brief before you take the hard-drive out be sure to right click on [whatever drive] -> Properties -> Security -> Advanced -> add in an 'everyone' with all permissions and check boxes ticked. Saves you spending a night doing it via usb.

You can take out the RAM easy enough but really even the hard-drive will just end up collecting dust somewhere.
>> No. 26907 Anonymous
3rd December 2018
Monday 8:03 pm
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I have a stack of annoyingly small hard drives that I can't quite bring myself to chuck out - probably seven or eight drives of between 160GB and 500GB.

500GB still seems like a useful amount of storage, but then I remember that there's a 4TB mirrored pair in my main machine and a 400GB MicroSD card in my phone.
>> No. 26908 Anonymous
3rd December 2018
Monday 8:55 pm
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It's still useful if you need to take stuff anywhere or like to have even more redundancy.

I have loads of these clear USB 3.0 enclosures, because I had about 10 old laptop drives I didn't want to destroy.

Even if it's just something like "a back up of the backup of my work laptop's files" it might save my arse one day.
>> No. 26914 Anonymous
4th December 2018
Tuesday 2:11 am
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I am digging both the clear enclosure and the Dymo labels.

Top marks lad.
>> No. 26948 Anonymous
8th December 2018
Saturday 2:28 pm
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What do you use that space for?
>> No. 26951 Anonymous
8th December 2018
Saturday 9:09 pm
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