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>> No. 12943 Anonymous
6th February 2019
Wednesday 6:01 pm
12943 Support workers
Any support workers on here?

Letter today from my employer telling me our sleep in payments will be halved from £60 to £30.

What really boils my piss is care providers in this county claim £70 per sleep in, from next month they will continue to do this, pay us £30 uand divert the rest of it to service users. Yes social care is massively underfunded but how can this not be considered fraud, claiming public money for a stated purpose then redirecting it
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>> No. 12944 Anonymous
6th February 2019
Wednesday 6:09 pm
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>>12943
Leak it to the council and the press, drop a tip to HMRC for potential NMW violation, and get in touch with your union rep (because you're not stupid enough to be in that line of work and not be in a union, are you?).
>> No. 12945 Anonymous
6th February 2019
Wednesday 6:13 pm
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>>12944

Thanks for the reply, councils are well aware of this (it's universal practice across the industry in all areas) and the press don't seem to want to know
>> No. 12946 Anonymous
6th February 2019
Wednesday 6:15 pm
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>>12945
also FUCK YOU mencap and your proxy appeal
>> No. 12947 Anonymous
6th February 2019
Wednesday 9:38 pm
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>>12944

Sleep-in workers aren't entitled to the NMW for the time they spend asleep, but they are entitled to it for the time when they're awake and working.

>>12943

If you don't have a union representative you can talk to, I'd suggest ringing the ACAS helpline on 0300 123 1100. They provide free and impartial advice on your rights in the workplace.
>> No. 12948 Anonymous
6th February 2019
Wednesday 10:41 pm
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>>12943
You're not in a union then, I take it?
>> No. 12949 Anonymous
6th February 2019
Wednesday 10:59 pm
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>>12947
To most people awake is a simple premise, when run through management bullshit it isn't, ie directly supporting someone directly is 'waking night' being kept awake for three consecutive 24 hour shifts by 3 people off their head on 'phet apparently isn't. Sorry if this sounds harsh but no one in their right mind trys to council anyone in the middle of a 'phet binge
>> No. 12950 Anonymous
6th February 2019
Wednesday 10:59 pm
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>>12947
To most people awake is a simple premise, when run through management bullshit it isn't, ie directly supporting someone directly is 'waking night' being kept awake for three consecutive 24 hour shifts by 3 people off their head on 'phet apparently isn't. Sorry if this sounds harsh but no one in their right mind trys to council anyone in the middle of a 'phet binge
>> No. 12951 Anonymous
6th February 2019
Wednesday 11:01 pm
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The answer is simple. Don't do sleep-in shifts until they put the payment to the full £70. There's a chronic shortage of care workers, and from April onwards this is only going to get worse, so I've no idea how they think they'd be able to replace you if they got rid of you.
>> No. 12952 Anonymous
6th February 2019
Wednesday 11:02 pm
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>>12948

Yes, unison ironically

Sorry if u don't know the back story, unison supported the original nmw court case.

Ok I'm fucked off, Sorry, sick of doing a job which involves potentially fatalities due to my actions for less than working for Aldi...and guess where I just applied for
>> No. 12953 Anonymous
6th February 2019
Wednesday 11:02 pm
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>>12948

Yes, unison ironically

Sorry if u don't know the back story, unison supported the original nmw court case.

Ok I'm fucked off, Sorry, sick of doing a job which involves potentially fatalities due to my actions for less than working for Aldi...and guess where I just applied for
>> No. 12954 Anonymous
6th February 2019
Wednesday 11:02 pm
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>>12948

Yes, unison ironically

Sorry if u don't know the back story, unison supported the original nmw court case.

Ok I'm fucked off, Sorry, sick of doing a job which involves potentially fatalities due to my actions for less than working for Aldi...and guess where I just applied for
>> No. 12955 Anonymous
6th February 2019
Wednesday 11:03 pm
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>>12951

It's in my contract to do so
>> No. 12956 Anonymous
6th February 2019
Wednesday 11:07 pm
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>>12955
It's in your contract to do sleep-ins for £60. Tell them you reject this change to your terms.

Who has the leverage here? The company that's legally bound to provide a sleep-in whether they can find someone to do it or not, or the worker rostered to do it whose skills are in demand with their competitors?
>> No. 12958 Anonymous
6th February 2019
Wednesday 11:17 pm
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>>12956
Sorry wasent clear, in my contact to perform sleep ins, contract neglects to mention payment rate, welcome to the bottom of the employment pile
>> No. 12959 Anonymous
6th February 2019
Wednesday 11:22 pm
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>>12958
Are you drunk? Sort it out.
>> No. 12960 Anonymous
7th February 2019
Thursday 12:34 am
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>>12959
Not him, but if I were in his situation I'd be pissed too.
>> No. 12961 Anonymous
7th February 2019
Thursday 12:39 am
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>>12958
A change to the rate is a change to your working conditions. Tell them you refuse to accept this change and will not attend any more sleep-ins until they change it back. Again, there's a severe shortage of care workers but no shortage of organisations employing them. "They cut my pay significantly" is a perfectly acceptable answer to the inquiry "reason for leaving employer".

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