I'm rather fond of the Waitrose essential loo roll. You may have to fold two sheets to get the desired thickness but as far as my arsehole is concerned I'm wiping with angels wings.
The champagne colour option is also rather soothing in its own right.
>>4203 Ah fair play, I'd obviously been taken in by the marketing hype.
I don't actually use them myself but then my arsehole isn't too fussy about what type of paper I use. I hope you manage to find something soft for your ringpiece lad.
>>4206 Well, you could "look it up" as he already advised you to.
>Unfortunately, the majority of wipes on the market don’t biodegrade quickly enough to avoid clogging the pipes. According to Joe Munafo, a plumbing engineer with New York-based Dagher Engineering, even toilet paper - which is designed to biodegrade - can get caught in pipes with imperfections.
>“And the more durable the material is, the more likely it is to clog,” he adds. “If you’re flushing paper towels, you’re running a bigger risk than with toilet paper. And if you’re flushing wipes – even flushable wipes – the chance of a clog goes up.”
>According to experts at Thames Water, flushable wipes were a major factor in London’s notorious fatberg, a 15-ton lump of congealed grease that nearly flooded the city’s already stressed sewer system and took three weeks to dismantle in 2013. “We have 59,000 miles of sewer, and fat and wet wipes are the main partners in ‘sewer abuse’ crime,” spokesman Simon Evans told the Guardian at the time.
https://www.theguardian.com/sustainable-business/2015/may/26/disposable-wipes-sewer-toilet-cities-flushable
I did, I looked at the packet it said flushable. I assume Andrex is an authority on the subject and I needed look no further rather then googling for a Natural News or Infowars or deliberately contrarian Guardian article telling me that's just what 'big wet wipes' WANTS me to think.
>>4211 There are no real regulations on whether or not they can put 'flushable' on the packet, so they do because it sells.
>Natural News or Infowars or deliberately contrarian Guardian article
There are countless youtube videos demonstrating it for you to watch instead of acting like it's some sort of conspiracy.
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=flushable+wet+wipes
>>4211 >>4213 It should be obvious. If it's designed to stay together whilst wet, then it's not going to break up in the sewer. The whole system only works if the paper breaks up when wet. Otherwise chaos reigns.
>>4213 >There are no real regulations on whether or not they can put 'flushable' on the packet, so they do because it sells.
I'd assume OFWAT would step in if there was a real problem.
I used to regularly liaise with Thames water, If they could get away with it they would double their price and make it that you should piss in the garden, all solid waste should be deposited in the bin and the water should be undrinkable and from a public well.
So the idea of them jumping on this to purely say 'we need more money, or to do less work' wouldn't shock me.
>A global statement has now been signed by over 247 companies in over 18 countries outlining the water industry's current position regarding flushable labelled products. The international statement recommends that consumers must be given clear and unambiguous information about appropriate disposal methods of products.
Here's more from sources other than Natural News, Infowars, or the Guardian:
It's really very strange that your immediate instinct is to say that this is all a conspiracy and somehow sewage infrastructure the world over is actually perfectly capable of handling material it was never designed to deal with. Takes all sorts I guess.
>It's really very strange that your immediate instinct is to say that this is all a conspiracy and somehow sewage infrastructure the world over is actually perfectly capable of handling material it was never designed to deal with. Takes all sorts I guess.
You've got it back to front. I think that it is sewage infrastructures responsibility to keep up with the needs of the society it serves. If those change then the infrastructure has a responsibility to adapt.
You can't flush regular toilet paper in Greece (at least on the islands that I've been on). Who's fault is that? the toilet paper manufacturers and the users, or the provider for not updating their standards?
>>4219 How the fuck have needs changed? Did everyone grow a second more formidable arse that can only be cleaned with wet wipes?
Sewers are for waste and toilet paper, and it is not the responsibility of sewage companies to upgrade tens of thousands of miles of sewage pipes to accommodate the small portion of the population who insist on buying wipes and disposing of them incorrectly.
>>4219 We're not talking about toilet paper. We're talking about wet wipes. Nobody wants to pay the cost of such an upgrade especially not for such frivolous reasons. It seems to have escaped your attention that it's customers who pay for upgrades, not providers. Nobody cares about your moist batty.
>How the fuck have needs changed?
Well for one flushing toilet paper like in the example I mentioned.
for another the scale has changed there is more people then there used to be.
for a third various hygiene products that you wash down the sink.
for a forth the food that we eat has changed which has both an effect on what goes down the sink, and what goes down the loo.
But lets ignore all that and never update anything ever.
>>4221 I'm not a water company and I don't think quick dry cement has ever been used as a hygiene product before or is recommended as one. but if you want to get your arse stuck in 10 kilos of it you are more then welcome to do it in my house.
And you are more then welcome to travel everywhere by horse on dirt tracks, but don't be surprised when you are passed by the motorway using moist batty kids of the future WOOOOSH!
>>4224 >But lets ignore all that and never update anything ever.
Nobody's saying don't update anything ever, they're saying don't undertake a massive upgrade of infrastructure to accommodate an entirely unnecessary behaviour. We're not talking about population growth, we're talking about flushing fucking wet wipes.
The only way for sewage infrastructure to reliably cope with wet wipes would be to fit a heavy-duty macerator for every household. My fag-packet maths says that would cost at least £14bn up front plus another couple of billion a year in upkeep, adding 10-20% to the average water bill.
How many people would be willing to pay a hundred quid a year for the right to flush wet wipes?
>>4226 Oh and if you are genuinely concerned about the impact of growing demand on sewage infrastructure as a result of population growth, one way of easing that is to STOP FLUSHING FUCKING SHIT RAGS THAT CLOG THE SYSTEM UP
That isn't how infrastructure works. The benefits aren't returned to the provider but to society as a whole like how putting fluoride in water reduces the need for dentistry but the water company doesn't profit from that. They aren't supposed to be directly profitable but improve the lives of everyone using them. Say by ensuring their bottoms are nice and soft.
Which might have an indirect positive affect on various other things due to the sunnier disposition of society as a whole
>>4229 In England the local authority decides to add fluoride, not the water company. Most water companies don't add fluoride.
But ignoring that, fluoride and the associated reduction in caries has a very measurable health and cost benefit. Wet wipes, not so much. At this point I'm starting to think you're having a laugh because all your arguments are leakier than the pipes of Thames Water.
The best toilet roll I've found is sold from Iceland. It makes sense they'd offer the best considering most of the foods they sell are reformed meats and the like. It's called 'Petal Soft Quilted' (see picture), embossed with a simple dotted, diagonal square grid. It's a decent price, about £3.50 for 9 rolls. It's miles better than any of the named brands I've used; 4 ply, doesn't bobble up or 'dust' (like Andrex) and absorbs liquids very well.
>>4200 I once watched a program on the BBC about how 'flushable' wetwipes aren't actually so; just more flushable than non-flushable ones, yet they still cause significant blockages. Basically they don't break down like toilet roll does.
18 rolls of Nicky Elite. They usually have them in your local Home Bargains or especially Farmfoods where if you've got a car, you can buy three packs for a tenner.
And as quoted by efc1878 on hotukdeals.com:
"I too use this paper and have never encountered a brown ballerina."
>>4199 Andrex wet wipes. I'm a late convert to moist toilet tissue, but you hardly need any sheets (two at the most) and it gets your bumhole lovely and clean.
This article goes into how INDA and EDANA flushability standards are bollocks and governments and sewage companies are fighting these trade associations in order to make stop them labelling these wet wipes as flushable when they aren't.