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>> No. 4072 Anonymous
17th February 2018
Saturday 4:07 pm
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I'm a learner motorcyclist with a displayed L plate and sticker. I just went for a short spin to post a letter, and even on a round trip lasting less than 10 minutes I got a bit of negative attention.

I admit that I'm generally touching only around 20mph around residential roads and I'm slow to change gear/a bit jerky with the clutch, as I'm still getting a feel for how to ride, but the hostility still surprised me.

An example, a young guy in a BMW was pulling out of a driveway and his car was hanging out halfway in the road. I'm about a hundred yards away, so I pull in the clutch, change down and slow down to let him out. He pulls out all the way but is shaking his head at me as he does so.

Though moments later I did get a thank you wave for letting a car pass the opposite way down a narrow street.

I don't get it. Is this sort of hostility standard on the roads? Maybe towards learners or bikes? Did I miss something, or is it always just chance whether you encounter bad attitudes?
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>> No. 4073 Anonymous
17th February 2018
Saturday 4:27 pm
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Some drivers are cunts, some aren't. You'll definitely get more of it on a moped, that just seems to be the way it is. The BMW here probably sees learner drivers up and down his street all the time, so he's probably just sick of that in general.

You'll definitely have to learn to stop caring about this sort of thing if you plan to stay sane.
>> No. 4074 Anonymous
17th February 2018
Saturday 5:39 pm
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>You'll definitely have to learn to stop caring about this sort of thing if you plan to stay sane.

Point well taken.
>> No. 4075 Anonymous
17th February 2018
Saturday 6:30 pm
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I've never had a motorbike but I've cycled on roads a lot - you absolutely need to develop a thick skin. I'm sure the more you use the roads the more you'll see that some people are just arseholes when they get behind the wheel. Good luck with your test etc, anyway.
>> No. 4076 Anonymous
17th February 2018
Saturday 6:50 pm
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Some people hate L-platers, some people hate bikers, some people just hate everyone. It'll get easier when you become a more proficient rider and start to fit into the flow of traffic.
>> No. 4077 Anonymous
19th February 2018
Monday 6:21 pm
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Watch out for the oblivious, as well as the spiteful. Either can do the classic pull-out, and it doesn't really affect the outcome.
Also, enjoy! I'm sure some of the hate is because driving's such a foul experience.
>> No. 4078 Anonymous
19th February 2018
Monday 6:31 pm
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Every day someone will accidentally try and kill you - every day. I commmutes daily 100m round trip on a bike for five years. Every commute will be at full concentration, almost like a video game. It is the only way to survive.
>> No. 4079 Anonymous
19th February 2018
Monday 6:42 pm
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>young guy in a BMW
Mystery solved.
>> No. 4080 Anonymous
21st February 2018
Wednesday 1:40 am
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Just dont filter at more than a brisk walking speed and you'll be fine.
>> No. 4081 Anonymous
23rd February 2018
Friday 9:52 pm
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There was a learner motorcyclist behind me the other day.

I mean right behind me - he could have touched the boot of my car, and he kept switching sides as if he was about to over or under-take. Pretty much forcing me to pay attention to him to stop myself being party to his suicide.

OP, this may be why people hate you.
>> No. 4082 Anonymous
23rd February 2018
Friday 10:11 pm
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I can't speak for that motorcyclist, but were you in slow moving traffic at the time? When I was starting one of the most difficult things for me was rush hour queues with stop-start traffic. As a new learner, I was always anxious to pick up enough speed to stay upright; it takes a lot of time to get a good feel for when you should put your foot down, when it's okay to let the car in front pull forward enough for you to go an extra metre, etc.. Going from left to right can also be a way of buying yourself an extra couple of feet of stopping distance, if you misjudge the above.
>> No. 4083 Anonymous
24th February 2018
Saturday 4:18 am
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>Pretty much forcing me to pay attention to him

Good. You're supposed to do that.

You'd be complaining even more if he'd stayed in one position and you'd sideswiped him.

"He came out of nowhere!"
>> No. 4085 Anonymous
25th February 2018
Sunday 1:46 am
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For the vast majority of people on the road, it's an annoying routine task they want to get through as uneventfully as possible. Combine that with people empathising most with others like themselves, you'll get the odd person who'll feel personally inconvenienced by your mere presence.

And then you get the people who see L-plates and assume it's your first day on a 50cc scooter capped to 29mph so you're forcing them to slow down and lose precious seconds.

And any other combination of reasons why a random stranger might suddenly dislike you who is strangely put in a position to act on it with impunity.

The vast majority of drivers are just fine but it's the ones that stick out that stick in mind. And to deal with them and pay them no mind is the sticking point.
>> No. 4086 Anonymous
25th February 2018
Sunday 3:21 pm
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There is kind of a zen magic trick to biking in town where you try and never stop, never have to put your feet down. One of my bikes is large (BMW) and it just isn't that comfortable to stop.

Back to the OP, I think the big trick is always be sure you have eye contact with drivers. If you can see them looking at you, you might be safe - if you can see they're looking away, not at you, avoid avoid.
>> No. 4087 Anonymous
26th February 2018
Monday 10:14 pm
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>I don't get it. Is this sort of hostility standard on the roads?

You've really only scratched the surface there, m8t.

>> No. 4091 Anonymous
8th March 2018
Thursday 8:14 pm
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Right, well, today riding home a group of people thought it would be a good idea to throw something. At a motorcyclist. At speed. Mid-turning.

They missed, and I saw what looked like a sandwich whizz past my face. I pulled in around the corner and put my steering lock/alarm on and walked back to where it happened. It was quite dark but I caught the sight of three or four pairs of scampering legs as they disappeared into a nearby park.

I must have come across as a frothing fucking lunatic because all I remember is shouting "are you fucking stupid" at the top of my lungs into the dark.

My hands are still a bit unsteady.

Is this what being a motorist is like?
>> No. 4092 Anonymous
9th March 2018
Friday 11:59 pm
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Are you like... New, to the human species, lad?

I once had a whole carton of double cream chucked at me out the side of an Astra by complete strangers. I once watched a Millwall fan piss all over the side of my boss' car. I once had a bloke beep his horn and gesture at me for being a wanker on a one way road, when he was driving the wrong way.

All of this is par for the course mate.
>> No. 4097 Anonymous
17th March 2018
Saturday 9:26 pm
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> I saw what looked like a sandwich whizz past my face

Bit ungrateful, lad. They chuck a free dinner at you, and you call them "fucking stupid"?
>> No. 4098 Anonymous
17th March 2018
Saturday 9:29 pm
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He's gluten free.
>> No. 4099 Anonymous
17th March 2018
Saturday 11:38 pm
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Have laughed at this post more than I should.
>> No. 4100 Anonymous
18th March 2018
Sunday 1:17 am
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Britfa.gs is my only audience at the moment so I'm happy to hear that. I'm also ashamed for you.
>> No. 4101 Anonymous
19th March 2018
Monday 5:41 pm
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>> No. 4102 Anonymous
19th March 2018
Monday 8:03 pm
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I'm ashamed to say this guy actually handled it a lot more calmly than I did. Then again, he managed to catch up with the person who did it and have a talk, while I was sort of just yelling like a mad cunt as they ran off.
>> No. 4103 Anonymous
21st March 2018
Wednesday 9:36 am
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Should have chased them down, tied a rope around their necks and dragged them through the town at 40 miles an hour.
It's tough but the only way they'll learn.
>> No. 4125 Anonymous
31st March 2018
Saturday 1:00 am
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A bit drastic, but like you said, they have to learn somehow.

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