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>> No. 15041 Anonymous
10th May 2018
Thursday 5:43 pm
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>Drag queens banned from performing at Free Pride Glasgow event over fears acts will offend trans people

[...]

>The organisation said in a statement that it hopes to create a safe space for all members of the LGBTQIA+ (lesbian, gay, bisexual, trans, queer, intersex, asexual) community, and that while the decision may "disappoint" some people "the needs of the most marginalised groups within our community come first."

[...]

>Free Pride Glasgow said: “It was felt that it [drag performance] would make some of those who were transgender or questioning their gender uncomfortable. It was felt by the group within the Trans/Non Binary Caucus that some drag performance, particularly cis drag, hinges on the social view of gender and making it into a joke, however transgender individuals do not feel as though their gender identity is a joke.”


Life rarely takes the piss out of itself like this. It almost sounds like the plot of a South Park episode.
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>> No. 40852 Anonymous
18th August 2023
Friday 1:52 pm
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>>40823

>My broader suspicion is that generally, nasty rhetoric about groups and actual, direct violence only correlate and that there are other factors more important in explaining why violence happens.

I agree, and I think the opposite position largely boils down to the "playing GTA causes kids to turn into mass shooters, ban videogames" kind of logic even if I am to let the frankly absurd false equivalence between the Rwandan fucking genocide and making jokes about bumders go.

It's an easy, seemingly obvious thing to point your finger at and blame, and I believe that the emotions driving it are genuine, good faith desires to do something about it. But it is nevertheless misguided. At best it's wasting time and effort for nothing, at worst it's letting the real causes go unaddressed and ultimately doing more harm.
>> No. 40854 Anonymous
18th August 2023
Friday 2:13 pm
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>>40852

I went to see a therapist for a while who actually insisted there was a link between violent video games and violent behaviour in young people. He was in his early 60s, a year or two from retirement, and he was a bit of a luddite, so I guess somebody like that was bound to have a different view on it than somebody who understood young gamers a little better.

A friend's 16 year old son is an absolute gaming fanatic, and I've heard him say that he really likes first-person shooters too, but he seems pretty well adjusted and doesn't have any noticeable violent tendencies. He can be a bit jittery though, even for a teenlad.

I don't think there's a deterministic, direct link between "nasty rhetoric" and violence, but that doesn't mean that that kind of thing should be tolerated. Because for some people, hate speech which they absorb from their peers and others can normalise the idea of violence against minorities, and with a certain disposition, it could make it more likely after all that somebody will become violent. And that still doesn't take into account that hate speech itself can be a form of violence, because not all violence is physical.
>> No. 40855 Anonymous
18th August 2023
Friday 4:18 pm
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>>40854
It seem disingenuous to ignore one form of osmosis but not the other. If you're playing GTA and your mate says it would be cool to kill prostitutes for real and you do it then who is really at fault? You would be because you chose to kill someone.
>> No. 40856 Anonymous
18th August 2023
Friday 4:41 pm
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>>40855

I'm not sure playing GTA normalises violence the same way as being around people who hate minorities. I never really played computer games, but I'd reckon that most of them know the difference between the fictional world of a computer game and reality where you can get nicked just for pulling a gun on somebody even without shooting. But that's going to be much more difficult if the actual people around you are racist and/or homophobic. Before long, their reality wil become yours. Which, again, could technically also be true if your friends are all gamers who like to play violent games. But far fewer people will think it's ok to kill prostitutes just because you can do that inside a violent video game with no consequences.
>> No. 40863 Anonymous
18th August 2023
Friday 9:29 pm
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>>40821
Pawns are girls too. All chess pieces except the king are girls. This has been addressed on other sites.
>> No. 40864 Anonymous
19th August 2023
Saturday 7:33 pm
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>>40856
IIRC there is some actual research that shows that people are generally able to distinguish between video games and reality, and compartmentalise video game violence appropriately.
>> No. 40865 Anonymous
19th August 2023
Saturday 7:40 pm
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>>40863
I always wonder how these bigots play chess. Do they talk about a pawn pretending to be a queen to attack other pieces? If they don't have a spare queen and use an inverted rook, do they talk about how it doesn't really pass as a queen?
>> No. 40866 Anonymous
19th August 2023
Saturday 10:07 pm
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>>40863

>All chess pieces except the king are girls.


There are no female knights. They'd be called dames.

Checkmate.






I'll get my coat.
>> No. 40867 Anonymous
20th August 2023
Sunday 5:38 am
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>>40866
>They'd be called dames.
In a game that starts with a pair of queens? They'd fit right in.
>> No. 40868 Anonymous
20th August 2023
Sunday 11:44 am
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>>40867

Maybe we should ask the chess pieces themselves what they identify as. After all you shouldn't just assume gender. Even if they'll just tell you they identify as chess pieces.
>> No. 40869 Anonymous
22nd August 2023
Tuesday 12:44 pm
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A children’s book about Pride featuring men in bondage gear was shown to four-year-olds in a pre-school, it has emerged. Parents had raised concerns with staff at Genesis Pre School in Hull after it was brought to their attention that children were being exposed to the images.

A staff member had checked with parents of the nursery pupils if they were happy with the contents of the book Grandad’s Pride to be shown to their children, but one flagged images of “partially naked” men in “leather bondage gear” as concerning. A member of staff then defended the images, arguing the children would not understand the erotic and sexualised depictions.


https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/08/21/pride-book-men-bondage-wear-shown-children-pre-school-hull/

Are you really a bumder if you don't wear bondage gear in public?
>> No. 40870 Anonymous
22nd August 2023
Tuesday 1:42 pm
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>>40869

>arguing the children would not understand the erotic and sexualised depictions.

There was a time when that was the exact reason why it was thought that children shouldn't be shown something like that.

Nothing against bumders, but your bumderness should not give you carte blanche to sexualise children. Which is what you are doing with this.
>> No. 40871 Anonymous
22nd August 2023
Tuesday 1:59 pm
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>>40870

How do you feel about this slattern, wantonly and provocatively displaying her ankles in public?
>> No. 40872 Anonymous
22nd August 2023
Tuesday 2:04 pm
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>>40871

Good grief, I would obliquely inquire as to her matrimonial prospects, if you understand my meaning.
>> No. 40873 Anonymous
22nd August 2023
Tuesday 2:07 pm
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>>40869

I see stuff like this and shake my head, and while I'm not a bumder, being a furry puts me quite bumder/trans adjacent The poofs and trannos don't like to acknowledge us as equals, but the fact Glinner is gunning for us too is a sign of our legitimacy, and I understand the feeling bumders must have whenever something like this comes up. It's just... Why would you. It's a bloody kids book. You are already getting your chance to propagandise directly to 4 year olds, you can at least sanitise the fucking bondage gear a bit.

There's some cunts out there who are just either downright thick and socially oblivious, or else they are fanatics with a chip on the shoulder. But sadly, there's others who seemingly exist only to give the Daily Mail lot ammunition. The trans community absolutely does have its groomers, much like the furry community undeniably does have its zoophiles, and the bumder community has its paedos. It's just the truth. I detest those people and loathe the "guilt by association" where people will judge an entire community by it's worst members, but nevertheless they are out there, they do exist, so I can't say I don't understand why people end up making those judgements either.

So you don't know what the intentions were here- The artist might have just been an idiot who didn't think about it, but he might also have been the kind who genuinely does get a bit exited at the prospect of normalising his sexual proclivities in kid's books. Thing is our society crossed the point of tolerating homosexuality a good while ago, but it'll be a cold day in hell before we tolerate any real kind of sexual openness around kids.

This is why political parties have purges though innit. You try paint yourself nice and electable, but you know it'll all go to shit when old uncle Jez starts shouting about Jews and sympathising with Russia and so on. Maybe the LGBT organisation needs a purge.

>>40866
>>40868

They're neither though, they're bits of wood (or marble if you're a posho) carved into abstract representations of feudal hierarchy. King and Queen in this context are no more indications of gender than the grammatical "genders" in other languages. They are just categories. There's plenty of cases of a male animal's name being in a "female" grammatical category, for example. Nowt to do with cocks and fannies, just whether you refer to it with and il or an el on the end of your adjectives, or whatever it is.

And you think we're dead cleaver in English not having nowt complicated like that, so nobody has to worry about if their calculator actually identifies as die der or das, but we even used to have cases. Dost thy wear wigs? Shalt thou wear wigs? Pray thee wear wigs. Simpler than foreign wierdness but it's the same principle.

Anyway I'm rambling because I have actual stuff to do but I don't want to. Soz.
>> No. 40874 Anonymous
22nd August 2023
Tuesday 2:08 pm
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>>40871

What a harlot. How can she cheapen herself that way. I'm shocked her husband lets her leave the house like that.
>> No. 40875 Anonymous
22nd August 2023
Tuesday 2:29 pm
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>>40873

> you can at least sanitise the fucking bondage gear a bit.

Absolutely. It's one thing to normalise LGBTQA+log(sin α²) to children. As a concept in itself, I guess you can't turn back time, it's out there in the world, no point pretending it doesn't exist when a child has two legally married dads or mums. But sexual orientation is one thing, sexuality and sexual fetishes is another. And blurring the lines between the two can harm children in a way that simply being a gay or lesbian parent doesn't normally.


>The trans community absolutely does have its groomers, much like the furry community undeniably does have its zoophiles, and the bumder community has its paedos. It's just the truth.

From the beginning of the gay rights movement, that movement was piggybacked and subverted by paedos attempting to have their sexual preference normalised the same way as homosexuality. And not all attempts to lower the gay age of consent were driven by the altruistic idea that teenagers shouldn't be disadvantaged over their heterosexual peers in exploring their own sexuality. A few radical voices in that movement wanted to abolish the age of consent altogether. And probably not so a ten year old wouldn't have to worry about showing his knob around.

Exposing children to sexually explicit material, and a person clad in bondage gear should count as sexually explicit, is now illegal, most of it under online grooming statutes. And rightly so. And I see no reason why the gay community should enjoy exemptions. Not even in the form of underhandedly slipping that material into a children's book. You shouldn't get to normalise your sexual fetishes to children just because your sexual identity and preference enjoy the protection of the law in our times.
>> No. 40876 Anonymous
22nd August 2023
Tuesday 2:37 pm
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>>40870
It feels like the type of thing someone working in a nursery shouldn't be making the final decision on. If it was a child psychologist or someone then fair enough, but if we're trusting Becky with a BTEC in childcare to make judgements on whether toddlers should be shown illustrations of men in bondage gear and the lasting effects of this when she's on little more than minimum wage then something is fucked.

>>40873
The author doesn't look like someone you'd want influencing children.
>> No. 40877 Anonymous
22nd August 2023
Tuesday 3:10 pm
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>>40876

>Harry Woodgate (pronouns: they/them)

Sigh.
>> No. 40879 Anonymous
22nd August 2023
Tuesday 7:24 pm
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>>40878
From what I can tell from a quick Google, the premise of the book is "let me regale you with tales from the summer I spent receiving hot beefy loads from your biological grandad."
>> No. 40880 Anonymous
22nd August 2023
Tuesday 8:24 pm
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>>40879

Oof. So gramps was only using our hero for a hot white summer boytoy fling? No wonder he didn't stick around for the kid either.

I suppose it is admirable to show kids the harsh realities of the world rather than keep them sheltered.
>> No. 40881 Anonymous
22nd August 2023
Tuesday 9:09 pm
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>>40869
When did pride become about celebrating diversity? Pride is about coming out as a specific community and being proud of who you are. It's not exactly opposed to diversity in itself but there's a group culture and history it celebrates with everyone else looking at it from the outside as gay-Christmas.

Why does everything have to be the state ideology these days?

>>40877
That's the bibliography of a shyster if I've ever seen one. Nothing that indicates making children's books that children actually want to read, instead of dragons and wizards you get grandpa regaling tales of mundane romance that win awards with adults.

>>40876
>If it was a child psychologist or someone then fair enough

Given history I think those are the worst possible people to decide what children should be exposed to. Imagine getting excited about climbing inside a child's mind - outright sinister.

Meanwhile nurseries are incredibly conservative institutions just because of the risk assessments involved - in this case they actually engaged with the parents on what was acceptable which is a fine mark in my book. On the opposite end they got rid of black sheep just in case someone might complain one day in the future.
>> No. 40882 Anonymous
22nd August 2023
Tuesday 9:32 pm
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>>40871
Is that Lucy Letby?
>> No. 40883 Anonymous
22nd August 2023
Tuesday 9:38 pm
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>>40876
>Granddad's Camper
Camper than whom, exactly?

>>40873
>Dost thy wear wigs?
You can't say this one; "thy" means "your". The question would be, dost thou wear wigs?
>> No. 40884 Anonymous
22nd August 2023
Tuesday 10:26 pm
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>>40883

Yeah, I realised I fucked it up after posting. I'm no middle English expert obviously. Point being you'd have multiple variations of the simple modern words you/your depending on the context, if you were asking someone, instructing, observing, etc.
>> No. 40885 Anonymous
23rd August 2023
Wednesday 4:39 pm
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>GOP official protests trans rights by displaying 16-foot penis sign in front of children

Sounds like a shit AI-generated ragebait headline.
>> No. 40925 Anonymous
2nd September 2023
Saturday 12:42 am
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>Elon Musk blames elite LA school for brainwashing ‘communist’ trans daughter into hating him for being rich

u wot m8t
>> No. 41297 Anonymous
28th November 2023
Tuesday 7:54 am
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>Two teenagers accused of murdering Brianna Ghey showed a "preoccupation" with "violence, torture and death", a court has heard.

>Opening the trial, Deanna Heer KC, prosecuting, said messages recovered from the phones of girl X and boy Y showed a "preoccupation" with "violence, torture and death".

>She said: "If that was not an unusual way for two teenagers to speak to one another, the messages demonstrate also how, over time, they encouraged one another to think about how they would actually carry out a killing. The messages show how they planned together to kill Brianna in just the way that she was in fact killed."

>In November 2022, they discussed killing a child referred to as boy M, the court heard. In one message, girl X said: "If I do end up killing boy M, I have a really sharp blade, the same one that Sweeney Todd uses. "If we kill boy M can I keep some things, a couple of teeth and an eye."

>Ms Heer said in December, girl X sent boy Y a video which was apparently an advert for an underground site for people who like rape, snuff, torture and murder. Girl X told boy Y: "I love watching torture vids. Real ones on the dark web," the jury heard. The court heard on 1 January, boy Y sent girl X a photo of a hunting knife and told her: "Spent my money. I bought a knife." Ms Heer said it was that knife which was used to kill Brianna six weeks later.

>The court was told in December last year, girl X messaged boy Y telling him she was "obsessed over someone" called Brianna but did not have feelings for the teenager. After she sent pictures of Brianna to him, boy Y questioned her gender and made slurs. Ms Heer said on 23 January girl X messaged boy Y telling him she had given Brianna ibuprofen gel tablets that "should have been enough to kill her". The court heard how girl X also claimed to have killed two people in messages to boy Y, but there was no evidence she had.

>Ms Heer said they spoke in messages about other people they wanted to kill and by 26 January had compiled a list of at least four people, as well as Brianna. The court heard girl X created a fake Instagram account to contact one of their targets, referred to as boy E, but it was blocked. In a message read to the court, girl X told boy Y: "If we can't get boy E tomorrow we can kill Brianna." Boy Y said in a reply he wanted to see if Brianna would "scream like a man or a girl". In one message, girl X said: "I want to stab her at least once even if she's dead jus coz its fun lol."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-67543984

Fucking edgelords, man.
>> No. 41305 Anonymous
12th December 2023
Tuesday 2:50 pm
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Enoch Burke looks set to remain in Mountjoy Prison for the Christmas period after he again refused to undertake to comply with a High Court order to stay away from Wilson’s Hospital School.

After Mr Justice Mark Sanfey asked him several times at a hearing on Tuesday if he would comply with the order, Mr Burke said compliance with it would equate to “giving up” his religious beliefs and would be an endorsement of “evangelist christian korean youtuberism”.

Mr Burke said he has now spent more than 200 days in prison with drug dealers and murderers over his refusal to accept a direction from the school to address a student by a different pronoun. Mr Justice Sanfey told the teacher the court was only concerned with whether he is prepared to purge his contempt and give an undertaking to the court to stay away from the school, which would secure his release.

Mr Burke was jailed for the second time last September after the school’s board asked the court to jail the teacher over his deliberate failure to comply with a permanent injunction, granted last July by Mr Justice Alexander Owens, restraining him from attending at the school. The board claimed Mr Burke had attended at Wilson’s Hospital campus every day since the 2023-24 school year commenced in August.

The school board alleges Mr Burke’s presence at the school caused “severe disruption for staff and students”. That claim is denied. In September, Mr Justice Mark Heslin ruled that Mr Burke had “flagrantly breached” the orders requiring him to stay away from the school and ordered that he be committed to prison “indefinitely”, until he purges his contempt.

Mr Burke is separately appealing a decision by the school to dismiss him from his post as a German and history teacher. He has argued he is in prison because of his opposition to “evangelist christian korean youtuberism” and that Mr Justice Owens’s order is invalid. Mr Burke has also accused the courts of failing to recognise his constitutional rights to religious freedom. He claims his rights were breached when the school instructed him to refer to a male student using they/them pronouns.


https://www.irishtimes.com/crime-law/courts/2023/12/12/enoch-burke-to-remain-in-prison-for-christmas-after-again-refusing-to-stay-away-from-school/

What is it with Irish people and ruining their lives because they're doubling down on their views about evangelist christian korean youtubers?
>> No. 41306 Anonymous
12th December 2023
Tuesday 3:08 pm
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>>41305
Is this the real reason the government plays to the culture war, so that everyone gets sacked but still turns up to work out of principle?
>> No. 41307 Anonymous
12th December 2023
Tuesday 3:24 pm
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>>41305
He really is an entire architecture firm of his own misfortune.
>> No. 41308 Anonymous
12th December 2023
Tuesday 3:27 pm
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>>41305
The culture war has made me notice something: it’s actually really, really easy to refer to anyone without using any gender pronouns at all. I, too, think that they/them pronouns are bollocks, but I just don’t use any pronouns for such people and it’s absolutely fine. I see it happen in news stories too. It really isn’t that hard to get away with.
>> No. 41309 Anonymous
12th December 2023
Tuesday 3:34 pm
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>>41308
Yeah, but he's a Christian so he's loving this. He's just like all those definitely not made up Roman Christian martyrs, IE, annoying and wrong.
>> No. 41310 Anonymous
12th December 2023
Tuesday 3:50 pm
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>>41308
How does a non-binary samurai kill people?

they/them
>> No. 41311 Anonymous
12th December 2023
Tuesday 10:49 pm
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>>41310
What makes them so effective is that the slash is usually silent.
>> No. 41330 Anonymous
19th January 2024
Friday 10:43 am
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>In a surprise result for the ruling Labour party, Ian Sharer has won the Cazenove ward by-election for the Conservatives with 53.6 per cent of the vote. The Liberal Democrat-turned-Tory took the seat from Labour, whose candidate Laura Pascal placed second with 30.9 per cent.
>It caps a turbulent week for Pascal, who was suspended by Labour following an allegation of transphobia, only to be reinstated hours before polls opened.
https://www.hackneycitizen.co.uk/2024/01/19/cazenove-by-election-conservatives-score-upset-swipe-seat-labour/

Reality is a .gs shitpost. We can now look forward to the next election being fought on trans issues.
>> No. 41331 Anonymous
19th January 2024
Friday 5:32 pm
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>>41330
Well I read that the Jews hate LTNs, a quarter of the ward is Jewish and they've voted in their Jewish mate who has now stood for all three main parties.
>> No. 41334 Anonymous
22nd January 2024
Monday 1:55 pm
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>>41330

I'm fairly certain the only relevant trans issue was transport.

The ULEZ has passed off enough people that it is becoming relevant as a single issue in London. So the Low traffic neighbourhood policy paired with the fact that Khan is Labour taints the whole party by association and will have been far larger factors I imagine.
>> No. 41335 Anonymous
22nd January 2024
Monday 3:36 pm
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>>41334

Ian Sharer had been a Lib Dem councillor in that ward for 16 years. Labour took his seat in 2018 and he came within a gnat's fart of winning it back in 2022. He defected to the Tories over the LTN proposals, but that wasn't really a decisive issue - he's known and liked in the area, he ran an effective face-to-face campaign and he brought most of his supporters with him. Labour lost a perfectly winnable seat, because all of the argy-bargy over trans issues meant that they didn't actually get around to running a campaign.

The lesson is that policies don't win elections, but they frequently distract from what actually does win elections - pressing the flesh, earning trust one person at a time, mobilising your support, convincing people to care.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cazenove_(ward)
>> No. 41338 Anonymous
2nd February 2024
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Do you reckon having a sticky out left ear is a sign of criminality?
>> No. 41339 Anonymous
2nd February 2024
Friday 9:06 pm
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>>41338
Wasn't she convicted of only one crime? One crime don't make you a criminal now, does it?
>> No. 41340 Anonymous
3rd February 2024
Saturday 4:05 am
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>>41338

It's possible.

https://theintercept.com/2016/11/18/troubling-study-says-artificial-intelligence-can-predict-who-will-be-criminals-based-on-facial-features/

>TROUBLING STUDY SAYS ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE CAN PREDICT WHO WILL BE CRIMINALS BASED ON FACIAL FEATURES
>> No. 41341 Anonymous
3rd February 2024
Saturday 1:49 pm
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>>41340
Without bothering to read the article, I'd imagine class, genetics and upbringing would have far more to do with criminality than specifically facial features. Cart before the horse or whatever the saying is.
>> No. 41342 Anonymous
3rd February 2024
Saturday 1:56 pm
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The only factor in whether or not someone is likely to break laws is if they live in a society which has them.
>> No. 41343 Anonymous
3rd February 2024
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>>41342

(A good day to you Sir!)
>> No. 41368 Anonymous
21st February 2024
Wednesday 5:49 pm
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>>41340
Unless it can detect Martin Shkreli I'm not interested.
>> No. 41411 Anonymous
5th March 2024
Tuesday 8:33 pm
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Spanish soldiers change gender to gain benefits intended for women

Spanish soldiers and policemen are changing their gender in order to access benefits intended for women, an investigation has found.

Spain’s Left-wing government introduced a self-ID law in 2022 that made it simple to transition formally, while at the same time boosting benefits for women in the military and security forces. Since the change was introduced, 41 men have become women in the Spanish territory of Ceuta in North Africa. Only four of that number have changed their names. According to a report in online newspaper El Español, the vast majority of the 37 newly registered women are employed by the military or the police.

Roberto Perdigones, an army corporal who registered as female in the last year, now earns more money and lives in superior accommodation. “On the outside I feel like a heterosexual man, but on the inside I am a lesbian. And it is the latter that counts. This is why I made the legal change to become a woman,” Corporal Perdigones, who continues to sport a beard, told El Español. Sources close to Ceuta’s security forces said male officers are changing their legal gender in the hope of gaining promotions.

Corporal Perdigones said “positive discrimination” was an incentive for becoming a woman. “For changing my gender, I have been told that my pension has gone up because women get more to compensate for inequality. I also get 15 per cent more salary for being a mother,” he said. The corporal explained that he was planning to sue for shared custody of his 16-year-old son because he thought his new gender status will give him a better chance in the courts.


https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/03/05/spanish-soldiers-change-gender-benefits-for-women/
>> No. 41412 Anonymous
5th March 2024
Tuesday 8:52 pm
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>>41411

I recall reading something about how Spain in particular really does the "positive discrimination" stuff a whole lot more than most places. Like, it's a real and genuine thing there, not just manosphere bollocks like it is in most places. In this country I don't think there's much concrete financial, material incentive to "become a woman" in bad faith like that, outside of maybe social currency, which is inherently a lot more subjective.

I do think a lot of genuine (i.e earnest and acting in good faith) trannos are doing it to escape the societal expectations of being a man, whether consciously or not. They never managed to measure up to our typical expectations of masculinity and I can see why it'd be easy to confuse that with not being a man and feel that you have no alternative, if you never developed that ability to disregard what people think about you.
>> No. 41413 Anonymous
5th March 2024
Tuesday 9:49 pm
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>>41412

>I do think a lot of genuine (i.e earnest and acting in good faith) trannos are doing it to escape the societal expectations of being a man, whether consciously or not.

I don't think that's true very often for male-to-female trans people, because it's incredibly fucking hard to live as a transwoman and I doubt many people would choose it if they had any other option. I do think it might apply to a lot of female-to-male trans people - in a previous era, a lot of them might have identified as tomboys or butch lesbians, or just a woman who isn't a girly-girl.
>> No. 41414 Anonymous
6th March 2024
Wednesday 1:06 am
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>>41412
>“On the outside I feel like a heterosexual man, but on the inside I am a lesbian. And it is the latter that counts. This is why I made the legal change to become a woman,” Corporal Perdigones, who continues to sport a beard, told El Español.

I hope they promote him her just for showing the capacity to work around the system and thumb her nose at society to get what she wants. Like those tests in Men in Black.

>>41412
The Spanish military is notorious for taking the piss. You wouldn't get it here because everyone would have to take it seriously, lads wouldn't do it and just have a massive teary about it while everyone else would have a teary too for different reasons.

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