>>29826
It was both a happening and a nothingburger, as the kids call it, at the same time. A woman was tragically shot, but all the did was sniff some seats and then leave.

I get that's a big deal and the word coup isn't hyperbole here, Trump incited this mob and might very well get 25th amendment'd as a result, but I just can't bring myself to care beyond watching them collapse under the weight of their own hubris with a morbid fascination.

Pandora's box has been opened; you can't just put "Well, actually, no. You cheated!" back in the box. This will happen every 4 years now and the GoP's legislative mandate is completely fucked for at least a decade. We might very well see Biden push through gun control in the wake of a turbulent inauguration or invoke the sedition act to jail Trump and his children, supported by the majority of Republicans, in an attempt to put this fire out because he will not shut the fuck up after Jan 20th.

He'll keep holding rallies.

>>29828

The irony of the Trump government being responsible for gun control legislation, even indirectly, is kind of amusing.

A fair few Seppos were there with flags for the other Georgia.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZ9oThRuMVs

About 43 seconds in you see her trying to climb through into the corridor before getting blasted.

Trump is never going to admit he lost. His speech at the rioters was not one of you are wrong. It was 'wait for the right moment' until they make a fool of him at trial and sentence him to death there is going to be a looming threat he is going to decide 'now is the time to take our country back'

>>29832
Trump was noticeably not mentioned in the decision not to bring in the national guard.

>>29833
The Mayor of Washington sent a request to the Pentagon for the DC National guard to be sent in. DC national guard are controlled by Trump, and denied the request. The Mayor then asked the Governor of Virginia to send their National Guard instead
https://twitter.com/GovernorVA/status/1346916716614451207
Six minutes later, this was posted
https://twitter.com/PressSec/status/1346918582832168964

>>29831
The video you linked is down but I've seen it posted elsewhere. I found it to be extremely harrowing. The vibes of the whole thing were very similar to LARPers.

In this video a sobbing woman is upset that she was maced whilst 'storming the capital' as part of 'the revolution'

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7aksoPAPSM

Trump's last Tweet before he was banned was immediately deleted and said "Remember this day forever".

The insurrection(?) started an hour after Trump Tweeted an attack at Mike Pence for not supporting his bogus claims.

George Monbiot's recent article in the Guardian bears re-reading
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/nov/11/us-trump-biden-president-elect
>It might seem strange to note that the US was lucky to get Trump, but it was, in this respect: while he is power-mad and entirely lacking in conscience and empathy, he is also impetuous and incompetent, and failed to follow a clear programme. In other words, he was a hopeless wannabe dictator. He was also unfortunate: were it not for the pandemic, he might have won again. But he has blazed a trail for someone more effective: someone with Trump’s absence of moral constraint, but with a determined programme and a cold, strategic mind. If Biden fails to break the political consensus, in 2024 he could open the door to a competent autocrat.

I'm just glad that America has the Pandemic under control and it's not like Hospitals are turning away heart attack patients in LA or anything, so they will be well able to manage what is almost certainly a superspreader event.

>>29835
You've got to be a special kind of stupid to try and break into a corridor with this waiting for you at the other end. They genuinely seem to have the mentality that the police wouldn't resist them because the police should only target other people. The LARPing during protesting of people screaming things like "MEDIC!" really is something else.

The woman who was shot in that video was ex-military and very into QAnon conspiracies.

https://www.businessinsider.com/ashli-babbitt-tweeted-qanon-and-trump-conspiracies-before-capitol-death-2021-1?r=US&IR=T


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aD2UmS4i69Q
How is this not incitement of a riot?

This was his last throw.
People are apparently resigning in droves and he's locked himself in the Oval office.

These people are on some bicmaeral mind shit, I'm telling you. Look me in the eye and tell me they're capable on self-reflection or questioning, indeed any kind of rationality at all. One could draw parallels between these actions and the summer's BLM protests, but the fundemental difference is that there was a basis in reality for what occured then, whereas this is all make believe. There was no ballot dumping or fake votes delivered by Ferrari fronted convoy, no threat of imminent Muslamo-Communist takeover, just the election of a fairly bland old man with nary a radical bone in his body.

>>29838
u wot m8?

>>29841
Fresh off the boat
Wet behind the ears
When he's first banned
There'll be floods of tears

Was hooked on a multifeed of people streaming from inside the riots last night, it was absolutely bizarre and just fucking hilarious, I guarantee there's going to be comedic gold coming from the footage for weeks to come. Also can you really call it storming? It was more like they fatly waddling into the capitol, the police even let them in then treated them with kid gloves the entire time. If this had been BLM there'd be bodies littering the steps.

>>29843
Matt Christman of Chapotraphouse is saying they let them do this because the mob is throwing a tantrum about a celebrity they like, whereas the BLM movement was looking for a fundamental structural change to the status quo [maybe].

I'm getting insta posts from American friends and apparently the Q folks have already integrated this into their narrative. The protestors were antifa hired by Soros. The people who died are crisis actors. This was all orchestrated by the Deep State to give them carte blanche to do Totalitarianism.

It is weirdly ironic that this political movement is so weird and incongruous that when the kind of people who create this sort of spectacle watch it on the news and are like 'no way that's real' and so double down on the magical thinking.

>>29841

>>29835

I want to find this funny in how she just identified and implicated herself in sedition or whatever it is as though nothing will come of it but she's right, she won't be punished for that.

And just think, it's only January. Shame I can no longer find the one of the protestor smoking a big fat biff on some congressman's desk.

>>29844
I read somewhere that you can tell whether they were Antifa or genuine patriots by whether they turned their MAGA caps back to front.

>>29835

>in 2024 he could open the door to a competent autocrat

That may be, but on the other hand, Hitler, for one, was not a competent autocrat as such, even though he oversaw the most pernicious autocracy in modern history. He had been a failure at virtually everything he attempted as a career in his adult life, and at one time lived literally on a few quid a week that he was making from selling hand painted tourist postcards.

What he did have was the gift of the gab and a talent to win over people with a preexisting grudge at public speaking events. And he came in at a time when the German people were still reeling from the disgrace of a lost world war, and had a lack of emotional investment in the first-ever democracy on German soil that they felt was forced on them in an act of victor's justice. Voting for the Nazi party was a form of protest to many, it was their chance to stick it to the newly emerged, unloved political system.

In America, on the other hand, I believe there are still well enough people who, even if they are Republican supporters, will not stand for this, who deeply believe in American democracy, and they will realise that things have gone too far now. Add to that more than half of voters who very convincingly gave Biden a majority, and there is much hope that even a wannabe autocrat cut from the same cloth as Trump but decidedly more cunning will have a hard time taking over. The checks and balances and the safeguards in the American government system against an autocratic revolution are much greater than they were during the Weimar Republic.

Same energy.

>>29848
It's important to have signals like that so you can tell apart the people who are all behaving in exactly the same manner.

Trump's a madman, along with the most fanatical of his supporters, but I can't help but wonder what the media reaction would have been if the BLM lot had pulled a similar stunt. CNN and The Guardian would most likely be cumming in their pants with glee at "a fierce display of defiance from oppressed people of colour against our systemically racist government", images of activists doing Black Power salutes in the Senate chambers would get billions of views on Instagram and the protagonists would be propelled to MLK/Rosa Parks levels of fame and become instant icons, Biden would commend the protests and DAs would decline to press charges "in the interests of justice". A lot of the faux-outrage from the Yank left, who now seem to care about law and order all of a sudden after months of gleefully cheering on riots and similar attacks against Federal buildings, seems to be rooted in their disgust that their opponents are finally using their own tactics against them. "Political violence is only bad when their lot do it, when we do it it's righteous anger!" might as well be their mantra.

>>29850
He was able to walk out of the building, with some of Nancy Pelosi's mail, without being arrested.

>>29852
>"Political violence is only bad when their lot do it, when we do it it's righteous anger!" might as well be their mantra.
You know, there is a BLM mantra that has emerged from this. I think it's "You're a both-sidesing tosspot" or something like that.

>>29852
Entitled (in some cases armed) conspiracy theorists trying to do insurrection at the state capital because they object to the outcome of an election isn't exactly the same as people doing civil disobedience to protest civil rights issues born of slavery though is it lad?

I don't recall seeing Grauniad articles frothing about how good CHAZ was, but maybe I'm mistaken.

Stop doing culture war. You are ruining everything.

>>29852
Well, no, you clearly don't read CNN or The Guardian because that's not the tone of a single line of their news reporting ever, Biden largely ignored the summer's protests and as I stated in an earlier post ITT what BLM were protesting was real, the grievences of the pro-Trump people are all imaginary. Beyond glass being broken it's not really the same thing at all.

>>29855>>29855

Ah yes, today I learned "civil disobedience" means 6 months of rioting, looting, burning, destroying businesses, dragging people out of cars and beating them and trying to burn down court houses, all because a career criminal methhead OD'd while getting arrested. You woke types can't stop playing the victim even when the entire global media is sucking you off relentlessly, it's a joke.

>>29854

Ah yes, typical ad hominem attack from an irate wokeist, why don't you go and take a knee for your Saint Georgie Gud Boi who Dindu Nuffin and cry about how oppressed you are while the entire global media sucks you off.

(A good day to you Sir!)

>>29857
What?

>>29857
>>29858
Blimey lads we've got a live one, and he seems to have a bit of an oral fixation.

>>29860
I wonder what his stance on novelty hats is.

>>29856

> the grievences of the pro-Trump people are all imaginary

No, they aren't really. At least not universally. A lot of people who voted for Trump were part of the disenfranchised rural white male working class who had seen their jobs and their social status dwindle away in recent years. They were one of the blind spots of Obama's presidency, where the proclaimed focus in domestic policy was more on diversity and gender equality.

It's easy to say it's all Trump's fault for inciting them. And much of it is, without a doubt. But you have to ask where some of those people were coming from four years ago, and a lot of them actually were able to get back into work during the Trump boom years, so what do you think who the average flag waving, white trash, white male redneck is going to thank for that.

>>29862

Oh stop it. These are the people who Obama wanted to provide better quality of life for who were too stupid, gullible, arrogant and vain to vote in their own self-interest because they think they are pending millionares.

So it begins.

Why do we never get any of the exciting stuff over here? Americans have all the fun.

>>29858

Hey so here's a thing, weird shibboleth insults you picked up from whatever insular 4chan-esque community you got them from tend to fall a bit flat when you try to insult people who don't know or care what you're trying to say.

>>29849
>That may be, but on the other hand, Hitler, for one, was not a competent autocrat as such, even though he oversaw the most pernicious autocracy in modern history. He had been a failure at virtually everything he attempted as a career in his adult life, and at one time lived literally on a few quid a week that he was making from selling hand painted tourist postcards.

It's odd to find myself defending Hitler but I don't see how that's unusual. You could do worse than spending your 20s being a drifter trying to break into art while recklessly spending all your money at the opera. If anything that's what you're supposed to be doing.

This criticism always reads like the typical finger-wagging from squares that tells you a lot more about how they've wasted their own life.

>>29866

Gosh I never spent any money at the opera, have I wasted my twenties?

>>29862
Mate, the people who can afford to fuck off to Washington DC for a few days, dress up like Andy the Army Man and buy every Trump nick-nack they can find aren't the "disenfranchised rural white male working class" (which isn't really how class works, but alright), these are a bunch of weekend warriors hopped up on conspiracies about Satanic carpet-bagger cults and election rigging. I'm not saying there aren't deep seated economic issues in American society that enabled Trump's victory, but these people are the American dream come true, they've got everything they want.

>>29867
It's worth a go if you can stomach the outrageous ticket prices these days. Give an accessible production like H.M.S. Pinafore a go.

But it's more about that you do what you want to do.

>>29864
I think there's a few reasons:-

- We're too polite to people's faces. You won't see British people doing something brash and in your face like covering your car in bumper stickers saying things like "Tories are scum" or a t-shirt emblazoned with "A vote for Labour is a vote for hepatitis" in huge letters. We'd rather just tut.

- People are just wearily resigned to things gradually getting worse over time. Nobody wants to make a scene by protesting and if they have to take a few days off unpaid for it then they're worried they might not be able to cover the mortgage. Protesting in this country kind of died with the invasion of Iraq.

- Nobody can agree on what they'd want as an alternative. Jeremy pissing Corbyn could have used the momentum he'd build up to launch a massive drive to encourage people to unionise and organise for better working conditions, but he was too focused on empty gestures rather than action that could have actually made a difference.

Hitler was only going to the Opera because BTS didn't exist yet.

>>29866

My actual point was that autocrats are rarely career politicians who have worked their way up all their lives through the ranks before they suddenly usurped power, either through a coup or a democratic election. I'm not sure how you are going to define "competence" in this respect, but it doesn't normally have to mean actual political competence.

You can be a quite incompetent autocrat if you make up for your lack of true leadership with ruthlessness and a talent to influence people in all the wrong ways.

What became Trump's downfall was that in a certain way, the stars had aligned against him. In a country like the U.S., you can't just quell BLM protests by sending in a few National Guard units. And in a global pandemic that leaves hundreds of thousands of your countrymen dead, you can't pretend it's just a flu and willfully ignore all that's going on.

All that doesn't mean that Trump doesn't have the chops for a true autocrat. The time just wasn't right for him to really come into his own.

>>29866

Also, calling Hitler a "drifter" trying to break into art kind of unjustly puts him in the same category as some Millennial who spends his days editing his youtube videos in an artisan coffee shop using their free wi fi.

That image would only be true if that youtubing, wi fi mooching Millennial was also a glowing nationalist with a psychotic hatred against Jews.

>>29874
Also a millennial layabout just doesn't have Hitler's work ethic.

>>29857

Ah yes, "reapers", the immortal race of sentient starships allegedly waiting in darkspace. We have dismissed this claim.

I took a lass to see 'The Magic Flute' Opera once and didn't know how racist it was beforehand, the girl was asian and I sat in horror as I read the subtitles they projected so you could understand what the characters were saying. I apologised afterwards, but it quickly became apparent that she wasn't reading the subtitles and missed all the racism.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MEE7VvOEpG4

>>29880

Shocker. Racism in the work of an Austrian.

>>29880

I don't get it, what's racist about that clip.

>>29882
Yeah I realised after I posted that this was a sanitized version of it. This character is a villain called Monostatos, and most of his villainy seems to stem from the fact that he is black and likes to sleep with white women. The production I saw didn't change the songs or the dialogue from the original.

Incidentally, the production I saw was put on by
Kosky's Komische Oper Berlin and it was very cool.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vGkEB3_z-o

https://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/u-congressman-tests-positive-covid-154956503.html
>U.S. Congressman Tests Positive for COVID Hours After Attending Electoral College Vote in Person

>>29856
>>29855
>>29854

Now we're getting into it aren't we.

"But it was different when we did it!" isn't the point. As far as the establishment cares, you're a troublemaker just the same. Stop buying into the culture war narrative- You are not on the opposite side to these people, they are disenfranchised members of the proletariat just the same as the people rioting for BLM were. You have simply been misled in a polarised direction, because that's exactly what the people in charge actually want, and look how well it's working.

Take the blinkers off and look how well it's working. Twitter and the like is flooding with outrage that only four people were killed during this incident as if that means the police weren't hard enough, same people who have been yelling about abolishing the police all summer long.

Just ask yourself. Who do you think benefits from all this? The average American knows something is deeply wrong with their country, but there are two giant cultural honeypots waiting to safely capture their anger and frustration and direct it in an entirely harmless direction. For one side it's at the abstract, intangible concept of white supremacy, and for the other it's some ever changing tinfoil hat paranoia. Both sides think the other is entirely responsible for their grievances and neither will ever acheive any meaningful impact or change.

This is all very frustrating. People really do treat politics like supporting a sports team, and completely flip their attitudes to something they would be condemning when their side does it. Things are only going to get worse in this country the more time we spend gazing longingly across the pond and importing their fucking mentally stunted political discourse.

>>29835
>In this video a sobbing woman is upset that she was maced whilst 'storming the capital' as part of 'the revolution'

She was actually walking around with an onion in a towel and rubbing that in her eyes to give off the impression of being maced.

>>29887

Does that work? I'm going to try.

>>29888
Evidently so. Watch the video again and notice how blatant the onion is. Blatant onions!

https://twitter.com/hunterw/status/1346919171595137025

>>29889

HOLY SHIT

Also, who wears a keyboard scarf?

Clearly a Deep State Operative.

Maybe it's an emotional support onion bigot

>>29887
This is also a good trick if you ever need to cry on demand in social situations, like to gain sympathy.

>>29885

>Take the blinkers off and look how well it's working. Twitter and the like is flooding with outrage that only four people were killed during this incident as if that means the police weren't hard enough, same people who have been yelling about abolishing the police all summer long.

That's not really what's been happening - see >>29854 for reference.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=isBF_Fin5KE
All the world's a stage

>>29892

... It's exactly what that is though.

>>29895

Oh, sorry, your obnoxious ellipses changed my mind. You're right, twitter is full of people who wanted more people to die, rather than questioning why so fewer did than in similar events where the people were different colours.

>>29896

You're still not listening. Four people were killed. The underlying assumption of "you don't shoot them" is demonstrably false. They do shoot them.

People are lapping up the culture war where it's two sides of the people versus each other, when it's only ever been the establishment against the people.

Much as I am shocked at the events just like anybody, CNN right now is being the usual liberal soap box where they aren't so much reporting the actual news as they are icessantly blabbering into their own echo chamber, using news soundbites solely to corroborate their points wherever it suits them.

If I was a dyed in the wool Republican supporter, this would only make me hate Liberals more. This is not how you make people at that end of the spectrum realise how fucked in the head they are for worshipping Trump the way they do.

>>29897
>The underlying assumption of "you don't shoot them" is demonstrably false
That might be because that's only the underlying assumption if you take it out of context. It says "you don't shoot them like you shoot us". In the same manner, in the same number, for the same reasons. Like. "You don't make love to me like you used to" does not mean "You don't make love to me", despite you misreading that into it.

>>29900

So in other words, they're outraged that only four people were killed, which is exactly what I said.

I never suggested they want more people killed, because I know that isn't what they want. But they are still spinning it to suit their narrative, in the same way that you're reading that inference into my argument when it isn't there.

Do you have figures to hand of how many people were killed in the black lives matter protests? Let's compare apples to apples if we really want to put it to bed. Those went on all summer so I'd imagine it's many more than four, but even then this line of reasoning reads like "as long as you only kill four people per protest we're even." If four people were killed in a single afternoon here, how many would have died in a sustained movement?

>>29902
>So in other words, they're outraged that only four people were killed, which is exactly what I said.
I suspect you may be retarded.

>>29897

>Four people were killed.

One was killed, three keeled over of their own accord.

Normally in these situations you'd say "imagine if it was the other way around", but we don't have to imagine. When BLM arrived in DC, they were met by police in full riot gear and the National Guard. When a heavily armed mob of Trump supporters turned up, the police were taking selfies with them. However you slice it, the disparity in policing speaks for itself.

>>29904

Yes, but if you look at what lots of BLM are saying on twitter and pretend it means the opposite, then both sides.

>>29904

I wonder if it would have been a different matter were Biden already sitting comfortably in the White House, rather than it being the final days of Trump's administration?

You can snark about both sides all you want, but >>29885 is absolutely right. The culture war acheives nothing and never will.

>>29904

>When a heavily armed mob of Trump supporters turned up, the police were taking selfies with them.

They also literally stepped aside to let them in.

>>29907

What if the state appears to be warring against a specific culture?

>>29908

Then that might be a different matter, except it isn't. The state is pulling the strings to pit two sides of the populace against one another while the billionaires kick back and laugh at everyone.

>>29907

Maybe, but he's on some completely batshit mental gymnastics to get there.

>>29885
>Twitter and the like is flooding with outrage
Piss off you daft cunt, do not spill actual human shit on the floor and call it a citation. If you want to talk about Twitter fuck off onto Twitter.

As I've stated three times now, the BLM protests were about a real issue with visible consquences. These Trumpoids are protesting against Satanists in government and imaginary election rigging, this is not Les Miserables, we are not witnessing the cry of a forgotten underclass nor are they griping about a lack of COVID relief or arguing for any kind of shake up to who is served best by the American economic system. This is not the other side of the coin we are looking at, it is a derranged and irrational ideology with few ideas based in reality outside of worshipping Trump. Ideas like the "Great Replacement" and Barrack Obama being a secret Islamist are commonplace, this is not the natural counter position to a $15 minimum wage and having to wear a mask during a pandemic.

>>29909
That hasn't really been the case in America. Ever. The state has always been at war with African Americans, with the support of "poor" white people.

>>29911

Not a single person in this thread has given credence to their claims and you're predictably missing the point. You're exactly the kind of person >>29885 was talking about and he's right.

>>29912

No lad, no it hasn't.

The American state had complete and utter dominion over black people for the longest time. It wasn't a war because there was no enemy. Furthermore, the emancipation of black people, when it finally happened, was not a struggle hard fought and won by humanitarian progressives, it was a cynical and calculated move by capital. Poor white people (I'm not sure why you felt the need for quotation marks) have always been kept in their place by the fear that they could end up like the black people.

You need to learn some history and stop being such a bloody limp liberal bellend. It has only ever been class war. It will only ever be class war. Class really is what it all comes down to, every time.

>>29911
>the BLM protests were about a real issue with visible consquences

The BLM protests were a distraction. Police brutality in America is now seen as a "black issue" rather than an issue affecting everyone. Sage because we discussed this enough in other threads.

>>29917

Yeah? Well you're like school in July.

No class.

>>29917
Yes, I'm pretty sure the Civil Rights Act of 1964 was signed into law with no protests or bloodshed. It was all them capitalists that done it. There is no class in the US. Just a bunch of tribes.

The scariest thing to me is that there are people completely indoctrinated by this weird fucking cult, and whilst sure they may not be a majority there are tens if not hundreds of thousands of them. I'm really struggling to put into words what's so insidious about it, but it's the constant thing of despite their being 500+ 'days of reckoning' promised by 'Q' these people are undeterred, if not strengthened by that.

It's not entirely different to religious doomsday cults but they don't tend to have the implicit support of the US president and police force. It seems that the truly insane have also latched onto it - it makes sense as Q swallows up other conspiracies and brings them into the fold. Take the comments on this video, for example:

It's fucking terrifying that people are so dangerously wrong and nobody is stopping them.

>>29920

>There is no class in the US. Just a bunch of tribes.

Almost- There is no perception of class in the US, because it's all this nonsense. This tribalism is exactly what the establishment wants.

If the American people actually understood their social hierarchy, there would be a very real and dangerous possibility of them standing up in solidarity with one another, white man alongside black, and enacting meaningful material change.

>>29922
>It's fucking terrifying that people are so dangerously wrong and nobody is stopping them.

As you've said, it's more an amalgamation of different conspiracy groups and there's little consistent platform other than there's a bunch of pedos in government. Tinfoil with friends. In a way I think it's the level of disproportionate attention they've gotten which has led to a self-fulfilling prophesy and it's sustainability because it would easily implode under normal circumstances.

Fuck 'anybody stopping them' though, that sounds far more dangerous than a bunch of people with mental issues storming a government building so they can stand around confused and go home. The US has yet to reach the point of division and conflict it saw in the 1970s and I doubt it will.

>>29924
I'd add to your point that the Civil Rights Act also raised the rights of women - a feature either added precisely to defeat the bill by relying on sexism or one that attacked union the voting bases from political rivals.

Politics innit.

It's funny because nobody was really arguing "culture war" stuff in the thread until the both side guy came in hallucinating about it.

The fact they had bombs and equipment for trying up hostages seems to be getting overlooked for "they wore goofy outfits and posed for selfies while dicking around."

>>29843
>Also can you really call it storming? It was more like they fatly waddling into the capitol, the police even let them in

I wish people would stop saying this superficial bollocks for a zingy hot take. Watch this from about 20:40 to 21:10 for the scale of what the police were actually up against.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJOgGsC0G9U

>>29931
>I wish people would stop saying this superficial bollocks for a zingy hot take.
They're not, they're referring to this.

I don't think the fault lies with the officers on the gate though, between the three of them they didn't have much choice. The rioters were absolutely "let in" in the sense that the police knew this was coming and someone on the chain of command stopped them from preparing effectively.

>>29929

Well, sorry to spoil your circlejerk lad. Were you getting close?

I do have a bit of a denial fetish though so nah not actually sorry.

>>29933

The absence of a circlejerk? You're still not making any coherent sense.

>>29932
There was a gate just around the corner on the steps from there which had already been breached so they didn't have a choice. However, that doesn't suit the narrative.

>>29935
>However, that doesn't suit the narrative.
Now you're being dishonest, implying that there was a large police presence that was overwhelmed. The DC Police Chief has admitted there weren't enough police there, due to there being no intelligence to suggest this would happen. Despite all the evidence saying it would happen. That's his excuse, anyway.

>>29932
DC authorities knew it was coming, so put in a request to mobilise the National Guard. Unlike the states, they can't just make it happen, it has to go through the federal government. The request was denied. In the end, the governors of Virginia and Maryland put their state police and NG on standby, but weren't able to actually deploy until it became an imminent danger (again, they'd have needed permission from the federal government to do so otherwise).

Trump hung them out to dry. DCNG were eventually deployed on orders from Pence and the Secretary of Defense, who presumably saw the writing on the wall, but gave the cover story of "POTUS was unreachable".

>>29937
Then why did the DC Police Chief go on record afterwards saying they had no intelligence suggesting this would happen? That seems to contradict your version of events.

>>29936

There's no way they didn't know.

>>29939
Absolutely, so why is he lying about the reason for the police not being appropriately prepared?

>>29940

Because "we knew but didn't do anything about it" would make him look a bit silly.

>>29938
Because all cops are lying bastards.

>>29938

Because you don't normally have angry mobs breaking into parliament buildings often enough to warrant heightened caution.

Capitol police were probably trained and prepared to pin down one or two people with suspicious items in their rucksacks at the visitors entrance, but when you have hundreds of quite agitated looking people coming towards you and breaking and entering through doors and windows, then that's likely not a scenario that was included in your monthly safety drill.

They're probably going to ramp up security now and train for this kind of scenario in the future.

>>29944

Please read the earlier posts in this reply string and check that what you're saying makes sense contextually.

>>29944
To be honest it might not have been a complete failure of a decision even if taken for the wrong reasons. Rather than risking a fight with (possibly) armed fanatics intent on starting a civil war you let them in to wonder around bewildered for a bit in an evacuated building and beat the stragglers while your plain clothes can note the troublemakers. Maybe not a strategy you could use with BLM or a WTO protest but a creative solution.

The building is symbolic but is still just a building. The end result has clearly turned America decisively against them and caused Trump to surrender his credibility. Meanwhile a silly meme post I can't use here has pointed out that the people who bought all this shit are now trapped in Washington DC because the airlines won't fly them home and the police are hunting them after an officer died while their online communities have posted their picture and labelled them gay antifa false-flaggers.

>>29950
Given that these people believed the police were on their side, you probably wouldn't need a cover to get in amongst them. Just need to make sure you don't broadcast the "colour of the day".

https://www.revolt.tv/news/2021/1/7/22219433/man-died-at-us-capitol-tasering-himself

>Man died at U.S. Capitol after accidentally tasering himself and having a heart attack

>>29961
You can't make this shit up.

>>29961
In the bollocks while trying to steal a painting no less.

>>29961
That's almost Darwin award territory.

>>29969

Only if he never had offspring. Removing yourself from the gene pool only really counts if you didn't pass on your genes beforehand.

Big Cripes

https://edition.cnn.com/2021/01/08/politics/us-capitol-riots-arrest-pelosi-desk/index.html

>The man photographed sitting at House Speaker Nancy Pelosi's desk during Wednesday's riots in the US Capitol has been arrested and charged with three federal counts, including theft of public property, federal officials said Friday.

>Federal officials said Richard Barnett of Arkansas was taken into custody Friday morning in Little Rock.



How did he think this was not going to happen when he decided to post pictures of himself all over the Internet in Nancy Pelosi's chair.


I actually sat in Bill Clinton's old chair once in his old office inside the Little Rock state capitol, back when he was U.S. President. As part of their guided visitors tour, they let you sit in it and take pictures. Same amount of fun, zero jail time.

>>29977
Ok now this is actually funny.

>>29977
I think they're all like this, from the sounds of it.

>"Nothing Will Stop Us," Tweeted Woman Before She Was Shot Dead At Capitol

https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/nothing-will-stop-us-womans-last-tweet-before-being-shot-in-capitol-2348874

>>29977
Irony is dead.

>>29980
>I think they're all like this, from the sounds of it.

They make the Muslamic Rayguns look rational in comparison.

It's actually something I've noticed with narcissists I know IRL. I call it "The Opposite Game" when my sister tries it.

>I'm going to storm the capitol and force the rightful winner of the election to let the loser stay in power. Stop the steal!

>I'm going to fight and even kill police who try to stop me. Blue lives matter!

>I was trampled to death. Don't tread on me!

>I never got the belt and you did. You were dad's favourite!

>>29983
I think rayguns lad was off his head on some form of drugs. The woman who was shot was off her head on QAnon bollocks.

https://twitter.com/BlueGhost40_/status/1347143803187179527

>>29985
Glad she's dead. Sorry, not sorry.

Donnie has new been permanently banned from Twitter.

>>29987
Good. Fuck the cunt and fuck anyone still defending him at this juncture. Fuck their families too. Fuck their friends.

>>29987

This is an almost comical example of too little too late. I hope twitter get exactly zero praise for banning him merely 11 days before he leaves office. They've squeezed all the juice out of him they could.

When Benito Mussolini started ranting about how "the right" had taken over fascism and ruined it's original message of freedom and togetherness (yes, he really said this) it was more than 11 days before he was gone forever.

>>29987
I hate the way they nuke banned accounts. All those Tweets, lost like tears in the rain.

>>29985
Why do nutbags love doing videos where they rant into their phone while in a car so much?

>>29987
Just like when the USSR fell and America didn't have well defined enemy to stand against, or when the Wire crew brought down DeAngelo Barksdale, banning Trump from Twitter will ultimately unleash forces we don't understand and can't control. Where will Libs direct all their hatred now? Who will conservative morons rally around? I sense a disturbance in the force.

>>29991
https://www.thetrumparchive.com/

Send me 1 BTC and I'll send you the link to Trump's new Onlyfans account. Patriot's only.

>>29991

Would there have been a way to download them all to save them for posterity?

>>29993
https://factba.se/topic/twitter

Nazis to the tune of Yakety Sax.

>>29997
I hope it was very painful and I hope he's burning forever in hell right about now.

>>29998
You sound like a delightful, well-liked person who doesn't have serious mental issues.

>>29999
>why can't you just be nicer to people who proudly want you dead?

Fuck off m9. Let him burn until the day I join him, then maybe I'll come back and post about how you were right after all but I doubt it.

Nothing wrong with having "serious mental issues" by the way. It tells you nothing about the moral value of a person. Wanting to murder politicians for letting blacks and gays have the vote does but let's pretend they are equivalent, there's nothing mental about that.

Glad that cunt is dead. Even gladder he died in a spectacularly painful and ironic way. I don't just hope he suffered. I hope he suffered BADLY.

>>29999

Fuck off nazi, I hope you die in pain too.

>>29992
>Why do nutbags love doing videos where they rant into their phone while in a car so much?

It shows that they're real people telling it like it is.

If Tommy Robinson was ranting about how the white working class are maligned it wouldn't be as effective if he was filming himself doing so in his massive house. The same reason Are Nige loves a pint of beer as a prop to make him seem relatable.

>>30003
It's also to do with these sorts of people loving the sound of their own voice, or probably having ADHD and being unable to concentrate on driving.

>>29992

Trump will remain the great enemy for many years to come I think. I won't be surprised is they start referring to him as things like He Who Must Not Be Named and You Know Who.

>>30007
Don't. Seppos are already bad enough for equating Trump with Voldemort because they can only view things through the lens of Harry Potter.

Average American's bookshelf.

>>30010
"Don't call yourself a liberal unless you've read theory."

>>30010
That's great, where is it from?

>>30015
It'll be either r/readanotherbook or r/bookscirclejerk

>>30010
Needs more plastic figurines.

>>30018
>plastic figurines
Funkos are the problem. There's no need to tar all the lads with respectable Japanese animation merchandise collections with the same brush.

>>30020
>Funkos are the problem.
Not specifically.

>>30021
I hate myself for thinking the Buster Sword is pretty cool

Funko Pops are the actual worst. Did you see the guy who had a contract with his wife about how many he could buy a year?

Most of those books look like they've never been read. What's the actual point?

>>30025
I'm guessing the mugs have never been drunk from, the sword has never been used to kill anyone and presumably the portal gun doesn't work; they all have the same purpose.

>>30025
Why would anyone have books in their home beyond those they're using?

Because they're decorative and guests will judge you based on the selection or even use them as conversation pieces.

>>30027
That or maybe you might want to read them again and it would be a bit weird to give books away then buy them again every time. Or maybe you like being able to see them because just the sight of the spine is a good cue for your memory to recall the contents.

People who think the only purpose of keeping books around is for other people to look at are saying more about their own reading habits than anything else.

>>30028
Don't lie to us, nobody rereads books on anything like a regular basis. You might have one or two books you will return to over a 5 year period but those will be exceptional and represent a conscious choice to not read something new when it's likely you could read a great book every day of your life with a little luck.

>>30029
Yes, but you don't know which books you will or won't reread in advance. The second part of what I said also still applies.

>>30029
I reread books all the time, because I get depressed when I spend money on a book I don't like. As a result, I usually wait until my mate brings one over and gushes about it before I'll read new stuff and if I like it I'll buy the next one myself.

There aren't many Authors I'll trust at name value, but Brandon Sanderson and Lee Child haven't written anything that's made me sad for spending money.

>>30028
>People who think the only purpose of keeping books around is for other people to look at are saying more about their own reading habits than anything else.

What about people who take photographs of their bookshelves to show other people, particularly when just about every book they own is in immaculate condition and appears to have never been opened?

>>30032
This might blow your mind right, bear with me, but people who collect books buy one for display and one to read. People's bookshelves vs people's bedside cabinets are a bold contrast on dog eared tomes with bent spines, coffee rings and Dominos receipts used as bookmarks.

>>30033
Now you're just making shit up. People don't buy two copies of the same book just to have one for show.

>>30032

I'm not defending them. I was just taking issue with the post(s) implying that the only reason to keep books was to show them off.

Am I a bit wierd in the fact that my bookshelf is actually full of books I haven't read? I mean I've read bits of them, but they're mainly there so I can dip in and pass an hour or two. I've got things like a big anthology of HP Lovecraft novels which I'm probably never going to read cover to cover, but every so often I'll leaf through and see what catches my eye. I mean, books are expensive, I like to get lasting value from them. Not just devour the whole thing in one go like a fat bastard with a grab bag of Doritos.

I used to work with a couple of people who would bring books in to read on their lunch and coffee breaks, and the pace they went at they'd just binge through a full book in a couple of days. I've always found that a bit wierd, I'd rather savour a book I'm enjoying, and if I'm not I'd just rather not read it. In fairness though it was that trashy epic fantasy stuff they always read, which isa all near enough the same bloody book anyway I suppose.

>>30028

>People who think the only purpose of keeping books around is for other people to look at are saying more about their own reading habits than anything else.

I'll hazard a guess that that is true for a lot of people who keep their books anywhere that people paying them a visit can see. Your bookshelf can speak volumes see what I did there about what kind of person you are, and I wouldn't put it past many people that they're particular about which books they put on their livingroom bookshelf, even if it's been years since they actually read them.

In the old days way before the Internet, you owned a multi-volume encyclopedia not just to have it handy when you actually wanted to look something up, but it was also a - middle class - status symbol to have one in your livingroom for other people to see. To show your friends that you were smartlike, and that. And it was your way of emulating posh folk who could afford to have an entire study filled wall to wall with assorted books.

>>30036
Mine is probably somewhere around 50:50. I haven't read anything since mid-November because I started Diary of an Oxygen Thief and it's like reading a really tedious shitpost so it has drained my interest for now.

>>30036
Having a shelf of books that you like to dip into makes sense, I do the same with some.

>>30038
As I think is mentioned in the /lit/ thread, the entire plot of Diary of an Oxygen Thief is plagiarised from Iain Banks' Walking on Glass, just simplified down and more shitposty.

>>30034
Yes they do.

>>30048
You're having us on.

So Donnies getting impeached. Again. Is that a first? Has any other president been impeached twice?

Any way, I don't think it's be at all conspiratorial to suggest the security services and general establishment knew about this, and all but allowed this to happen. It's too perfect for them. Trump ends his term proving he's the manic fascist they've been saying he was, Biden gets to pass sweeping new security laws first day on the job, and nobody was harmed except a few nutter Tea Partiers (remember them?) tasing their own nads off. Everyone's happy right? It's just like the Patriot Act and they didn't even need foreign bogeymen to manage it, it's almost too good to be true.

And if you think that's too cynical or tinfoil of a take, let's not forget the CIA/FBI/etc have form for far worse than that. The US intelligence agencies are the same people who legitimately, actually, in real life, put LSD in a whole town's water supply for the hell of it. The film The Day Shall Come is more or less based on a true story.

Now don't get me wrong, I haven't exactly been rooting for Toad of Toad Hall over the last few years. I haven't even found amusement in his inflammatory tweets, because it's all so very depressing to say that this is the state of the world. But I think some people's eagerness to revel in this apparent comeuppance perhaps slightly naive.

>>30050

There have only be two other impeachments total in the history of the USA, Clinton and Andrew Johnson, and they were 130 years apart. So Don lays claim to an entire 50% of all impeachments ever motioned.

I would agree that this looks a lot like it was allowed to happen, as an aside. They might actually get this one through the senate - another first.

>>30051

Here's a photo of the cop who died at the Capitol Hill Building the other day.

I'm starting to think /boo/lad is entirely right and this is all too convenient an excuse to radically expand the security state. Biden has already backtracked on healthcare and the 2k payment for coronavirus because he no longer actually needs to keep the American people happy and is firmly in the pocket of Big Hedgefund. Not when Washington DC will now represent a Soviet fortress.

Meanwhile the internet is up for a radical shakeup where American protections on free speech don't apply to private companies and yet those companies effectively operate as public utilities with the government exerting significant informal control. So anyone voicing concern over Wall Street now being let loose can be swiftly unpersoned for incitement of Occupy Wall Street.

>>30069
I think it happens during this video but I'm not entirely sure when.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zqh47NQtRPU

I'm expecting inauguration day to be a train wreck.

>>30072

Buy $PLTR

>>30072

It's been a long time coming. The internet is the biggest (only) threat to the establishment in the last hundred years, it was only a matter of time until they cracked down on it.

It disappoints me that so many on the left are cheering it on instead of realising how this will invariably be turned on them too, once they have outlived their usefulness, but there we are.

Better start buying LEDs for your clothes lads. We cyberpunk now.

It seems like this picture was taken between minute 1 and minute 2

The guy circled in green is hitting the cops with a night stick at 2:05, but in the photo he is slightly to the right of the door.

>>30073

>If I wear a mask nobody will be able to identify me and I will be able to evade identification
>If I wear a mask people will think I am complying with COVID rules
>What should I do?

>>30075
>Better start buying LEDs for your clothes lads. We cyberpunk now.

Does anti-surveillance clothing even work? It seems like a lot of it is based on "this will confuse a phone camera designed to pick up on QR codes".

>>30072
>>30075

>>30078

Well, probably not, but you're a shit cyberpunk without lights and goggles.

>>30078

You want one of those baseball caps with LEDs in the brim. Desolder the white LEDs and replace them with infrared LEDs. You'll look like a perfectly ordinary nerd/night fisherman to the naked eye, but the IR will dazzle CCTV cameras.

>>30083
The batteries will die within a day of you putting them together because you'll forget you turned them on.

What's wrong with a good old fashioned V for Vendetta mask?

>>30091

Unfortunately they give you away as a homophobic, sexist, racist CHUD who voted for Trump and sleeps with a my little pony body pillow nowadays.

>>30094
What if you were doing it ironically?

>>30085

Smartphone cameras are pretty good for checking if IR devices still have power - the LEDs glow a pale violet. So I suppose the CCTV cameras just need to look for a load of Wii sensor bars milling about in crowded spaces to see who would make an easy arrest.

>>30078
This is the future, bro.

>>30083
>>30101
I wondered if infrared would attract insects which sent me down a bit of a rabbit-hole. At least it appears that someone walking around with IR LEDs at night would soon be obscured by a swarm of certain insects such as mosquitos, beetles and bedbugs.

I'll take my chances with room 101 if that's the case.

>>30085
Spose there wouldn't be any harm in leaving one visible LED in the circuit in order to let you know if the battery was dead.

>>30103
There's a whole range of these clip-on things that probably make more sense to use than trying to re-sew LEDs into the brim of your cap.

>>30104
I wonder if you could get something similar to this around your license plate, and have it synced with Google maps. It would turn on whenever you go past a speed camera.

>>30106

That'll show the surveillance state!

Parler is dead.

>>30109
Never even heard of it before this whole Trump thing.

>>30109
>However, chief executive John Matze told Fox News on Sunday that "every vendor from text message services to email providers to our lawyers all ditched us too. We're going to try our best to get back online as quickly as possible, but we're having a lot of trouble because every vendor we talk to says they won't work with us because if Apple doesn't approve and Google doesn't approve, they won't,".
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-55615214

I suppose it's only fair that corporations can be unpersoned too.

>>30110
It's where people like Katie Hopkins went when they were banned from other social media sites.

>>30112

First they came for Katie Hopkins, and I did not speak out.

Then they came for Donald Trump, and I did not speak out.

I was temporarily confused when it looked as if they might do the same to JK Rowling after it turned out she was really a Death Eater all along, but I managed to memory hole it so that was okay.

When they come for the socialists on the basis they're all vicious anti-semites just like their daft militant wog leader Jeremy Abdullah Jihad Corbyn, I will not speak out.

When they come for the followers Saint Greta, I will be shocked. Shocked!

>>30114
Twitter's been banning leftists for years.

>>30109
Not only dead, but every single bit of user data has been yoinked and archived.

I knew it was a Honeytrap.

Have they impeached him yet?

>>30118
It's only 11am there so I assume not.

>>30118
Seems inevitable at this point. It has bipartisan support from senior Republicans.

>>30118

Yes.

>>30120

He's in pretty deep shit if Republicans really go along with this and disown him like that. It kind of depends on how many Republican senators and congressmen or -women have actually turned on him.

There is a tipping point with these things, in that your political allies will only back you for as long as doing so does not damage their own career aspirations. Most politicians are inherently turncoats that way. When the moment comes that you are a liability for them and that continuing to stand by you would hurt their own career, that's when you are often dropped like a hot potato.

>>30125
I've heard it said that Trump's best way out now is to resign and get his pet eunuch to pardon him, otherwise he's liable to spend a very long time in prison. He's already likely invalidated himself as a candidate in 2024 (14th amendment's rebellion clause), as have many of his family.

>>30126

> otherwise he's liable to spend a very long time in prison

Which explains in part why he's been clinging to his presidency so desperately after the lost election. He knows what he's got coming.


> He's already likely invalidated himself as a candidate in 2024 (14th amendment's rebellion clause)

I think that's not really certain. But a big reason why Democrats want him impeached even now at the last minute is that an impeached President is legally barred from reelection. That would be the biggest way they could keep him from coming back in 2024.

>>30125

Established Republicans have only ever begrudgingly supported him in the first place. None of them wanted him in office any more than the Democrats did, but while he was getting results it was hard to argue. A moment like this is the perfect chance to wash their hands of him.

>>30128
Problem is that it's still very much in the hands of Mitch Mcconnell.
The house can pass impeachment papers in a day, but it's a massive waste of time unless Mitch is on board and agrees to put it to a vote. If he wont, then the Democrats may as well just bide their time to build evidence and make sure they have enough support from Republican Senators to vote against him once all the dust has settled.

>>30131

The way I understand it though, a criminal prosecution of a former President for acts he committed during his presidency doesn't hinge on him being impeached. His immunity ends, regardless, when his term as President is up, and he can then be charged and tried like any other defendant in a criminal case.

Even the Queen of the EU says Twitter banning is a threat to freedom of speech.

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/01/11/germanys-merkel-hits-out-at-twitter-over-problematic-trump-ban.html?utm_term=Autofeed&utm_medium=Social&utm_content=Main&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1610382172

Aparantly the National Guard have been told to prepare for engagements.

>>30131
The Senate doesn't get a choice over impeachment. When the House sends them the papers, the Senate must hold a trial. Mitch has no agency in the process, and there are whispers that some Republican Senators simply won't turn up so he'd potentially lose votes on procedure.

>>30141
You know that thing where you take the one thing that you agree with and ignore the rest of it? Yeah, stop doing that.