I don't really want to get all preachy about this, but the whole point of sustainability is that there will be no tuna left for anyone to give a shit about in a few decades.

If you want one that tastes nice, you'll just have to go through every brand in every supermarket until you find the one you like best. It does seem though that manufacturers have been moving towards dryer tuna because people don't like having to drain it.

(deleted and re-posted because I somehow forgot the difference between turkey and tuna)

>>11705
Can't I start eating other fish and meats in a few decades? I'm not seeing the problem.

>>11706

Yeah, lets be systematic about this. Once we run out of Tuna we'll move on to the next tasty morsel. There is only going to be about 11 billion of us in approx 35 years. Nothing to worry about.

>>11707
I bet there'll be more than 11 billion fish.

>>11707
Plenty of long pig to go around.

>>11708

Well no, pretty much ever single species of ocean fish anywhere near a population centre is overfished and many like Cod and Tuna are at risk of extinction.

What we are seeing as a result of this is jellyfish bloom, and that creates problems for more than just the fish due to competition for food, as jellyfish aren't exactly edible.

Also, do you really want a line of deviants standing about on the shore waiting for surfers to come along and ask to be pissed on, walking up to children and asking if they need "special medicine"? This is the future you choose if you don't eat sustainable tuna.

>>11710

Bollocks, it'll be reet. Mankind has the ability to take nature into our own hands, the only reason we haven't done so already is because the ecosystem hasn't been crippled badly enough to force us to actually do so yet. Rest assured that once tunas go extinct, it will create a gap in the market, and the free market will fix it. Producers will race to perfect their tuna-cloning and aquarium farming techniques once we overcome the supply side barrier of tuna's natural existence.

>>11711

Monsanto Brand, Farm Assured, Corn Fed Tuna!

>>11710
I did a bit of Googling and someone said there were 100 trillion fish in the sea. So don't "well no" me.

I like John West. Mackerel is clearly superior to tuna though.

>>11713

Not all of them are edible and the majority of them are too small to fish.

You can use statistics to say whatever you want. 100% of toddlers are racist, because they will only play with dolls that look like they do. See, it's easy.

>>11713
Most of which is out of range of commercial fishermen.

>>11711

I didn't know the CEO of the Nestle corporation posted here.

>>11715 >>11716
Yes, I realised that. You're conservationists and I imagine the world needs people like you. But I also don't care much for your shit. The world's been turning just fine for a long time, and I think it'll continue, as will the human species, regardless of how badly we fuck everything up. Now, how much is a can of tuna in Tesco?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFTLKWw542g

>>11717

I wish I had your optimism.

Unfortunately, I'm pretty sure Tesco only sell line caught tuna, even in cans, which is as sustainable as it gets.

>>11719
>The world's been turning just fine for a long time, and I think it'll continue
Almost certainly.

>as will the human species, regardless of how badly we fuck everything up
Doubt it. The earth's been around for billions of years, as has life. We have not. We are very, very recent arrivals. It's a testament to our overestimation of our own importance and determinedly anthropocentric point of view that people can consider continued human existence and proliferation to be as inevitable as the planet's rotation.

>>11720
Have you not seen The Day After Tomorrow? You call it optimism, but it's realism. In some future year or decade, billions of humans might die. And that's okay. Like you keep going on about, we've been forcing genocide upon certain species of fish for a long time. We'll get our turn whatever we do. I am optimistic about our species' resilience and I do anticipate we'll get to colonise the galaxy while the Earth burns. But I probably won't get to witness anything quite so magnificent, which makes all this bleating about fish even more tiresome.

>>11722
Did any other species have computational modelling, limitless data storage and communication, rocket propulsion or machines that can burrow deep into the earth and that could create new habitat?

>>11723

Intelligent and nihilistic with a wicked sense of humour.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2j-cfiretE

>>11725
Did any other species have the resources to devastate entire ecosystems anywhere near as efficiently as we can, or have nuclear weapons or the capacity to increase greenhouse gas emissions so drastically in such a short space of time?

Also note that species lacking "computational modelling, limitless data storage and communication, rocket propulsion or machines that can burrow deep into the earth and that could create new habitat" have proven themselves to be far more durable than we have so far. The lamprey, for example, has managed to stick around for hundreds of millions of years without any such technology, sponges almost a billion.

>>11720

I can't say anything about the viability of the source of the data, and this is a year out of date so the situation could have changed since then, but Tesco is a bit behind others. They're using mixed-source Tuna, rather than solely line-caught as others are doing.

>>11729

That's good info, lad. Cheers.

>>11729>>11730

Sorry, forgot to add the source:

http://www.greenpeace.org.uk/blog/oceans/win-bin-our-2014-tuna-league-table-20140228

Chill out lads, it's fine.

http://www.iflscience.com/environment/mass-extinctions-may-actually-speed-evolution

Are you buying brined or in oil? Brined is usually drier, in oil is naturally more moist. Sainsbury's own pole and line caught is usually rather nice, but Aldi sell 4-pack tins in brine for £2-£3 which is very agreeably priced for a skinflint and the quality of the chunks is only a little less than Sainsbury's.

The poster talking about how we shouldn't worry because mankind can control nature has reminded me of one of the scariest things I've ever read. It was in a blogpost by Tim Stanley on Caroline Lucas stepping down as Green Party leader. Of course it focused on her for about two sentences and swiftly turned into an attack piece, including this:

>Environmentalists miss the fact that we might be stewards of this Earth but we are not its servants. Eventually, we’ll move on to somewhere even better.

That the nutcase who said the above is paid to write things that are considered informative and insightful, and has an audience of hundreds of thousands of people, I find just so incredibly terrifying.

>>11735

>Environmentalists miss the fact that we might be stewards of this Earth but we are not its servants. Eventually, we’ll move on to somewhere even better.

Ach mein Gott!

>MONSANTO

Eurgh, I thought .gs was better than that.


This is a thread about tinned tuna, not tuna.

Waitrose essentials tuna is pretty good. It's certainly not dry, I'd happily eat it as-is.

Probably not the cheapest, though.

>>11703
The ones from Aldi.

Not tuna, but Lidl Mackrel in tomato sauce is very very agreable. I remember they had a pricing error and sold them for 20p, bought as many as I could find.

>>11737

U wot? Sort your face out, m8. The only mention of Monsanto is clearly satire.

>>11710

If jellyfish can't be eaten when why do they exist? What I'm saying is do we need them?

>>11742
They can be, they're fucking disgusting though.

>>11743
Isn't half of Chinese street food fucking disgusting though? Tastes can change.

>>11742
I was thinking the same thing. We should wipe it out and kill the competition for ARE tuna.

>>11742

I believe it's called an "ecosystem", and that ultimately, no Jellyfish would mean no Tuna.

>>11746
How? Less Jellyfish would mean more Tuna.

>>11747
>Less Jellyfish
Fewer, lad, fewer.

>>11742
Don't worry, I got the reference.