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|>>|| No. 8701
The lawyer representing a teacher who claims she was raped by Cristiano Ronaldo has told The Mail on Sunday that he has been contacted by another women alleging she also was sexually assaulted by the footballer.
Leslie Stovall, who is acting for former model Kathryn Mayorga, who made the first accusation, said: 'I have had a call from a woman who claims to have had a similar experience.' He declined to name the American woman, but said he would hand her details to Las Vegas police who have reopened the 2009 case of alleged rape brought by Ms Mayorga.
|>>|| No. 8702
It does seem that anyone with a modicum of fame finds it nearly impossible to not molest women.
Either all men are a bit rapey and only the famous ones get called out for it, or there's something about being a bit famous that makes you think you can get away with it. Or the third option is that having a high profile and a bit of money makes everyone want to pretend you felt them up so they get money out of it. I feel like the latter is by far the least likely, just so we're clear I'm not trying to go down that avenue.
|>>|| No. 8703
As someone who is a 'bit famous' in my own sphere and who has acted shamefully towards women on occasions since that happened, I think number two is the correct one.
|>>|| No. 8704
But if touching up boys made you famous, it doesn't really have the same meaning, does it, Aki?
|>>|| No. 8705
Dunno what you're on about la but I like them muscles. Do me some squats?
|>>|| No. 8706
Call me cynical but I'm starting to feel like the last option is happening more than we'd like to admit, precisely because we feel like we'd be horrible people for even pursuing that line of reasoning. I'm not saying it's the most prevalent reason but we shoudln't discount it.
I mean if I was a women I would absolutely sleep with a premiership footballer and then blackmail him with rape allegations. Probably 90% of one night stands occur under the influence of alcohol which is enough alone to give your claim merit. "I felt pressured into saying yes your honour." Bam, rape.
|>>|| No. 8707
>Or the third option is that having a high profile and a bit of money makes everyone want to pretend you felt them up so they get money out of it.
There's also the pure fantasists. If I remember correctly, when William Roache was on trial the accuser genuinely thought she'd been raped by the character Ken Barlow.
|>>|| No. 8708
I'm technically a 'bit famous' in my industry too (probably more accurately just very recognised in my industry), but other than shagging some birds I probably couldn't have if I was just some office manager somewhere, I don't think I've managed to do anything non-consensual.
I saw something just now on twitter that said something along the lines of '1 in 3 women are sexually abused, 1 in 100 men are falsely accused of it'
I don't know if that's a real figure or not, though, and to be honest it doesn't address any man who has still been convicted of a sexual crime he didn't actually commit. I'm sure it does happen more than we'd like to admit. It's definitely tough as it's hard to question someone who's coming forward with what you'd assume to be an incredibly difficult recounting of a traumatic event.
I dunno. My first girlfriend decided to tell people we broke up because I hit her, when in reality I dumped her because she was cheating on me. She didn't go to the police, thank fuck, because I have no idea how that might have gone down. What could I have done other than say "no I didn't, honest". I'm sure there's still people who believe what she said, because why wouldn't you? Blokes hit women all the time. This was fifteen years ago, but all it would take is one of her mates to see that I'm doing quite well now and suggesting that maybe it's time to get VEnGEaNce.
|>>|| No. 8709
>I don't know if that's a real figure or not
Those type of figures tend to have a very wide ranging definition of sexual abuse, which can include things like unsuccessfully coming on to someone or even just looking at them. A few months back there was a rather flawed study, using a self-selecting sample, which was extrapolated to claim that sexual harassment at universities is rife; the Graun got a lot of mileage out of it.
|>>|| No. 8710
Zenit St Petersburg have condemned star striker Alexander Kokorin, who faces criminal prosecution for hitting a government official with a chair in a Moscow café.
Russia international Kokorin, together with Krasnodar midfielder Pavel Mamaev, was captured on security cameras attacking the man as he ate breakfast at a table in the corner of the room. The pair were behaving rowdily and café employees thought they were drunk and had taken drugs, according to a report by Russian daily newspaper Gazeta.
Gazeta also reported that two high-ranking government officials ended up in hospital as a result of the attack, with one losing a tooth, and Moscow police are investigating.
What the British press haven't covered is that the minister they struck with the chair is ethnically Korean and they were singing Gangnam Style when they attacked him.
|>>|| No. 8711
Replying to myself here, but Crewe Alexandra as well, they harboured a child abuser and are now pretending they didn't, and most of the fans are happy to oblige.
|>>|| No. 8746
But you got that picture from the Mail article about how no one cared, so no, it isn't.
Could we not turn .gs into "repost any old from the DM.com", lads?
|>>|| No. 8753
River Plate fans pelting the Boca Juniors coach with rocks before the second leg of the Copa Libertadores final.
Apparently there's players with glass in their eyes and the military are having to guard the stadium because of people fighting the staff there to get in without a ticket. You can always rely on the South Americans to go apeshit over football.
|>>|| No. 8756
Is the man in blue saying "fucking black cunt" or not? I can't tell.
|>>|| No. 8757
Looks a lot like it - and in any event, all three look like fucking cunts and behaviour like that should be removed from stadia. You wouldn't get away with behaving like that in the street and I don't see how it is any "part of the game".
|>>|| No. 8758
>A football fan accused of racially abusing England star Raheem Sterling apologised for his behaviour last night. Colin Wing, 60, was caught on camera hurling insults at the Manchester City player in a Premier League match at Chelsea on Saturday. Footage appeared to show him calling Sterling a ‘fucking black cunt’ while other Chelsea fans shouted non-racial abuse.
>Mr Wing said: ‘I’m deeply ashamed by my own behaviour and I feel really bad. But I didn’t call him a black cunt, I called him a Manc cunt. Nobody around me said they heard anything. I want to apologise unreservedly to Raheem and hope he can be a better man than I am by accepting it. I offer him an unreserved apology. Even if it wasn’t racist, it’s not right what I said. Even the swearing is bad – but I got carried away. I was completely out of order, but I’ve lost my job and my season ticket now so everybody’s got what they wanted. So why can’t they leave me alone?’
Woe is me.
|>>|| No. 8760
What's the world coming to when you can't insult a millionaire footballer without losing your job?
|>>|| No. 8763
>So why can’t they leave me alone?
What a prick. Why does a 60 year old dude go and do that?
|>>|| No. 8764
Chelsea fans aren't known for being a bastion of tolerance. Speaking of which...
>A CHELSEA fan who screamed abuse at Raheem Sterling previously defended Blues supporters who shoved a black man off a train and sang racist songs, The Sun Online can reveal.
>Colin Wing, 60, was caught on camera screaming from the stands at England ace Sterling during Saturday's Premier League clash with Manchester City. The 60-year-old dad-of-two admitted he was the fan filmed hurling abuse at England winger Sterling but denied he yelled racist comments.
>The Sun Online can today reveal Mr Wing previously defended Chelsea fans who pushed a black man off a Metro train before a match against Paris Saint-Germain in 2015, saying: "It's not illegal to be racist". The BT manager was posting on a Facebook thread linked to a story about a group of Chelsea fans who stopped Souleymane Sylla getting onto a train, before the group began singing: "we're racist, we're racist, and that's the way we like it".
|>>|| No. 8765
But more seriously, I've very little sympathy for him. Losing his job sounds like it's over the top, but if you consider the position of the company employing him, would you really want "notorious racist, Mr Wing, Colin" to be doing... well quite honestly I don't know what a BT manager does, but it probably involves interacting with other people and I'm not sure you can command much respect outside of the DFLA after what he did.
It's not illegal to be racist, but it does have repercussions, and a lot of the more involved aspects of dolphin rape are actually illegal. It's a bit like being a prostitute; you can stage the occasional demo, but otherwise you do it on your tod and indoors.
|>>|| No. 8766
>Losing his job sounds like it's over the top
It sounds like it because it is.
>but if you consider the position of the company employing him, would you really want "notorious racist, Mr Wing, Colin"
Does it affect his ability to do the job? Does this one person affect the position of the company as a whole? Do you even want those people who do take offence at employing a random person they've never met but disagree with as customers?
I might not agree with his opinions, but he's been fired for daring to express them, and this notion that you somehow represent your employer during your off hours needs to fuck right off. It's an unwarranted intrusion on the right to a private life.
|>>|| No. 8767
>I might not agree with his opinions, but he's been fired for daring to express them
He was sacked for aggressively shouting during a football match when an opposition player was in the vicinity.
|>>|| No. 8768
>He was sacked for aggressively shouting during a football match when an opposition player was in the vicinity.
A football fan insulting an opposition player? How dare he. Where did he think he was, in the front row at a football ground or something?
|>>|| No. 8769
Yes, but he's a middle class white man and the player was a young black man. That makes it abhorrent, apparently.
|>>|| No. 8773
>Does it affect his ability to do the job? Does this one person affect the position of the company as a whole? Do you even want those people who do take offence at employing a random person they've never met but disagree with as customers?
It'd be nice to live in your world, but in this one, people will tell BT they refuse to do business with them until the sack the racist etc. Even if they don't believe those likely empty threats, there's no reason at all for BT to stand by him when they can easily tell him to fuck off and never have to even think about it ever again.
If he'd called a kid sexy I bet you'd not be singing the same tune.
|>>|| No. 8774
A few media outlets have employed lip-readers and they've all backed up that he was saying 'fucking Manc cunt.' It's not an unheard of insult, although I've mainly seen it directed at Man Utd fans.
|>>|| No. 8776
>but in this one, people will tell BT they refuse to do business with them until the sack the racist etc.
That's harassment and it's illegal. If something like that happened to me, the employer would be he headed straight for the tribunal and the small-minded busybodies that complained would be on the receiving end of a county court claim for harassment and interference.
|>>|| No. 8778
>That's harassment and it's illegal.
How is it "harassment" to refuse to do business with BT?
|>>|| No. 8779
Let me see if I've got this right. Man in football crowd exhibits behaviour expected from football crowd, and loses his job with the company broadcasting the match.
|>>|| No. 8780
Because it's done with the intent to target the individual, not the company.
|>>|| No. 8781
It probably isn't harassment as defined by the Protection from Harassment Act 1997, especially if the people complaining only contact BT once; it might be a malicious communication if the allegation is baseless.
Before you go to a tribunal, check your contract of employment. Being a racist in your own time probably constitutes gross misconduct by bringing the employer into disrepute. Such a contractual clause is almost certainly lawful (Post Office v Liddiard).
|>>|| No. 8783
>It probably isn't harassment as defined by the Protection from Harassment Act 1997
I don't think anyone could seriously dispute that BT would not be under any obligation whatsoever to dismiss him (s.1(1A)(c)(ii)).
>especially if the people complaining only contact BT once
If 10 customers contact BT once each at around the same time over the same person, then that could be argued to constitute a course of action by 10 people consisting of 10 actions (s.7(3A)(a)), which easily passes the threshold of two actions against one person. Alternatively, a course of action can involve one action against two persons - in this case, directly against BT and indirectly against the individual (s.7(3)(b)). The fun part is that in some cases you don't have to prove intent or collaboration - if someone is complaining and could be reasonably expected to know they're not the only one complaining then they can be taken to be acting in concert with the other complainers (s.7(3A)(b)).
>Post Office v Liddiard
There are two points of distinction here. The first is that Mr Liddiard was not accused of having an opinion people don't like and shouting it a bit loudly. He was convicted for a violent armed assault on victims including a police officer. The second is that he passed the test on contributing to his own dismissal. The motivating factor was his arrest, conviction and imprisonment, not the media coverage. If you're doing something that isn't in any way illegal, then you can argue that the motivating factor was not your behaviour but the reaction of others.
Not that any of this really matters, since apparently it turns out that he's retired. However, he'd be well advised to consider action against the Mail, who effectively doxxed him by posting a photo of his home unredacted.
|>>|| No. 8784
He doesn't even work for BT. That was a previous job. Some other company has sacked him.
|>>|| No. 8786
Maybe the shit weather and god-awful pitch confused them, and they thought they were playing Spurs at Wembley.
|>>|| No. 8787
>Yesterday evening I had a meal with my team mates and we had a group photograph. I waved and shouted at the person taking the picture to get on with it and at the same time put my hand over my mouth to make the sound carry. It’s been brought to my attention that frozen in a moment by the camera this looks like I am making a completely inappropriate type of salute. I can assure everyone I would never ever do that and any resemblance to that kind of gesture is absolutely coincidental.
I wasn't making a Nazi salute. I was trying to make the sound carry. Honest.
|>>|| No. 8792
Derby County Football Club can confirm that officers from the Derbyshire Constabulary were called to the Derby County Training Centre at around 11:20am on Thursday 10th January 2019 following reports of a man acting suspiciously outside the premises.
It has since been confirmed to Derby County that the individual concerned is an employee of the footballing staff at Leeds United Football Club. The club is now in discussion with Leeds United club officials in relation to this incident. At this time no further comment will be made.
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