Not sure if I should post this in /101/, but here seems like a more apt location.
Anyway - quick background, emigrated there in 2001, came back in 2011, family stuff, father finding work etc. It shaped me growing up quite a bit - but I have no love for Ireland.
I usually frequent the /r/Ireland board on reddit, and it's a pleasant reminder what a shithole it is - everything from their ultra-low expectations, to the feckless attitude in regards to everything. It kind of teases this part of me, where I remember generally poor things about it, and makes me wonder how anyone would think about moving there permanently.
I would love to dispel the myth that Irish people are friendly, they are a bunch of myopic, xenophobic, inbred shits at worst, and dowdy, ignorant idiots at best - with the lowest of low-brow outlooks on everything. "Ah sure it'll be grand", was a phrase I heard often, especially when something goes tits up. Any kind of outside influence is considered a threat, and due to their ingrained inferiority complex, they will make no bones about not liking you. If I had a penny for every time someone called me an "English cunt" due to my accent, I'd have enough to leave several times over. I was lucky enough to be white, if you're coloured by any shade, you're a novelty, a side-show, for their amusement. And if there are enough of you, you become a problem. Integration is still a new and scary thing, so if you're a minority prepare to have a uphill struggle living there. The Irish are NOT friendly, any attempts at being so are facile and superficial, and do so only to look good in front of their mates.
You can argue, it's similar to England, but it really isn't, not by a long shot. Any Irish person smart enough, will know they need to get the fuck out. We've seen over 100,000, educated young folk fucking off to all corners of the globe. In simple terms, you'd have to be missing a chromosome to actively want and embrace living in this joke of a country. I still advocate visiting the West part as it's preserved much of it's beauty - otherwise don't bother.
Anyway, don't see any reason for a discussion, just needed to vent this bullshit.
>>22992 >if you're coloured by any shade, you're a novelty, a side-show, for their amusement
There was an old joke along these lines:
What do you call a black man on the streets of Dublin in the 70s?
Phil.
>>22994 Please do, as it is a beautiful, unspoilt piece of land. Visit the west and south, fuck Dublin royally. There is nothing but over-priced beer and shit that you've already seen 5 years ago. Perhaps a museum or two, otherwise I wouldn't waste too much time.
When I visited relatives in Connemara they said they had no problem with English people at all but really disliked Americans and people from Dublin because they're "weird".
>>22995 >>22996 Just as we have the separate countries of London and Notlondon, they have the same sort of thing, with the M50 as the border. Inside are the stuck-up townies, and outside are the backward culchies. Relatively speaking, obviously.
>>22997 I don't know, I live in the East Midlands, and people here are quite open and friendly. Even if we are a bit insular, we definitely don't show outward animosity to those that are different. I know I know, we do get the odd pisshead ragging on them muslamics n' darkies, but not to point where its culturally accepted.
I am sounding like a really bitter cunt by making these sweeping generalizations, but I have good judgement seeing as I've lived around the world - and Ireland has by far one of the countries most far behind in terms of this backwards mentality. A lot of my friends are sick of it as well, and those that could, have left long ago - the rest prop up their existence with the "ah sure" mentality. Morbid resignation if you ask me.
>>22992 >due to their ingrained inferiority complex, they will make no bones about not liking you. If I had a penny for every time someone called me an "English cunt" due to my accent, I'd have enough to leave several times over.
No wonder you had a hard time if you think someone calling you an English cunt means they don't like you. Poor wee hun can't handle the banter.
>>23003 I know what intonation, inflection and muttering it under your breath is, opposed to playful banter. I got my fair share of friendly bollocking, but having it whispered on the street is another.
Not sure if I should post this in /101/, but here seems like a more apt location.
Anyway - quick background, emigrated there in 2001, came back in 2011, family stuff, father finding work etc. It shaped me growing up quite a bit - but I have no love for England.
I usually frequent the /r/UnitedKingdom board on reddit, and it's a pleasant reminder what a shithole it is - everything from their ultra-low expectations, to the classist attitude in regards to everything. It kind of teases this part of me, where I remember generally poor things about it, and makes me wonder how anyone would think about moving there permanently.
I would love to dispel the myth that English people are guarded, they are a bunch of loud, xenophobic, inbred shits at worst, and condescending, self-rightious idiots at best - with the lowest of low-brow outlooks on everything. "It'll be fine", was a phrase I heard often, especially when something goes tits up. Any kind of outside influence is considered a threat, and due to their ingrained superiority complex, they will make no bones about not liking you. If I had a penny for every time someone called me an "Irish cunt" due to my accent, I'd have enough to leave several times over. I was lucky enough to be white, if you're coloured by any shade, you're a paki, a terrorist, for their scapegoat. And if there are enough of you, you become a problem. Integration is still a new and scary thing, so if you're a minority prepare to have a uphill struggle living there. The English are NOT friendly, any attempts at being so are facile and superficial, and do so only to look good in front of their mates.
You can argue, it's similar to Ireland, but it really isn't, not by a long shot. Any English person smart enough, will know they need to get the fuck out. We've seen over 100,000, educated young folk fucking off to all corners of the globe. In simple terms, you'd have to be missing a chromosome to actively want and embrace living in this joke of a country. I still advocate visiting the West part as it's preserved much of it's beauty - otherwise don't bother.
Anyway, don't see any reason for a discussion, just needed to vent this bullshit.
I wish that wasn't all completely true. Do you think I can get away with calling myself Welsh? There are accentless Welsh, right? I've met at least one.
>>23007 Tell them you're naturalised. I know a "Welsh" couple who speak the language and get behind the boys in red come February. They hail from those great Welsh towns of Solihull and Morpeth. These days we'll take anyone who lives here for a few months and professes publicly that it's not shit at least once. Learn the words to Calon Lân and you're set.