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>> No. 23042 Boyo
11th November 2014
Tuesday 3:26 am
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Why did Russia send little green men to Crimea? Why is it destabilising the east of the country? I don't see the benefit.
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>> No. 23043 Wastelander
11th November 2014
Tuesday 3:59 am
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Black Sea Fleet.
>> No. 23044 Boyo
11th November 2014
Tuesday 4:17 am
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>>23043
What about it? Ukraine wasn't going to push the Sevastopol base away, they relied on the money it gave them. In addition, it's not like Russia doesn't border the Black Sea on it's own.
>> No. 23046 Wastelander
11th November 2014
Tuesday 4:39 am
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>>23044
sigh
Putin doesn't want Ukraine developing European(German) roots, yes its childish and unfair but the world isn't fair.

Would you stand for a nobhead shagging your daughter? Putin wouldn't.
>> No. 23047 Raoul
11th November 2014
Tuesday 9:28 am
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The Russian military has had bases in the east of Ukraine for donkey's years. "Destabilise" is just a code word in the news for "dilute American influence". It's not a bad thing.
>> No. 23048 Boyo
11th November 2014
Tuesday 9:51 am
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>>23047
Don't bullshit.
>> No. 23049 Cockernay
11th November 2014
Tuesday 12:32 pm
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>>23047

Yes it is a bad thing. Diluting shit with piss doesn't give you a milkshake.
>> No. 23050 Monkey
11th November 2014
Tuesday 12:46 pm
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>>23049

Diluting shit with anything doesn't make it palatable. What's going on in Ukraine is more like mixing salt into high fructose corn syrup- neither is palatable on its own, but it becomes positively revolting when mixed.
>> No. 23052 Raoul
11th November 2014
Tuesday 3:02 pm
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>>23042

There's a list of 'valid' reasons (from the view of the Kremlin) for taking the Crimea.

1. Pure punishment for Ukraine shifting towards the EU and away from vassal state to Russia.

2. Geopolitical strategy - Black Sea port and all that.

3. Because they can.

4. Because the fact that Ukraine even had Crimea was a mistake, many normal Russians have always considered it as part of Russia (have their second homes there, go there for holidays, poetry and music written about it). They were fine with it being part of Ukraine when Ukraine was just a servant-state of Russia.

5. To stick it to perceived NATO expansionism that threatens to break into all the buffer states around Russia.

6. To give the population a positive distraction from the failing economy, and create a scapegoat for all future problems.

7. To protect ethnic Russians - in the minds of the population (moulded as they are by the media) the Kiev government is a fascist junta that will exterminate all ethnic russians.

The list goes on and on.
>> No. 23053 Boyo
11th November 2014
Tuesday 7:59 pm
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>>23052
But do these really outweigh the negatives? Massive international distrust, capital flight, instability in the elites if maybe not the proles, is it really a rational decision to just give Ukraine and NATO a big funk you? Especially considering Russia has black Sea access already for example.
>> No. 23054 Monkey
12th November 2014
Wednesday 10:41 am
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>>23053

Expat-lad here.

The absolutely don't outweigh the negatives. Either the Kremlin has a long-term masterplan that we can't see yet, or they are just clueless arrogant fools reacting like children. It sure seems like the second one at the moment.

They have started an economic war with a failing $2trn economy (beset with the resource curse) against the EU's $16trn and the US's $15trn economies (which hold all the critical financial, information and technological assets). If there's a definition of 'fucking stupid' then this must be it.

The latest central bank forecast is for no economic growth till the early years of the next decade. The recent economic woe's are mostly down to the Saudis deflating the cost of crude to stop shale production in the US and Russia is struggling heavily as a casualty. But the whole economy is rotten - there are no financial services, no information economy, no tech innovation. There are massive structural changes needed in education (higher and lower) and infrastructure upgrade. The pension fund has been raided to fight recession. The treasury is dropping $2-2.5bn a day in reserves to prop up the ruble.

Just look at this....

http://www.xe.com/currencycharts/?from=USD&to=RUB&view=1Y

The only positives are that it has created a real 'us' v 'them' mentality in the population (full state media control helps with that ofc). People are willing to take a loss of prosperity and income to fight imperials and fascists in an imaginary conflict.
>> No. 23055 Cockernay
12th November 2014
Wednesday 12:44 pm
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>>23054

>...the Saudis deflating the cost of crude to stop shale production in the US

I thought the Saudis were deflating crude only at the bequest of the US in order to hurt Russia? I might be mistaken - I occasionally read Zerohedge which is known to make shit up.
>> No. 23056 Cockernay
12th November 2014
Wednesday 2:18 pm
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>>23054

>Expat-lad here

Haven't we been over this self-naming thing before?
>> No. 23057 Fairy
12th November 2014
Wednesday 3:18 pm
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>>23056
I think 'Expat-lad' is generic enough that it doesn't count, if only because we know there are several expats that post regularly. It struck me as an attempt to give context to his remarks about Russia, rather than an attempt to self-name, in much the same way that someone in an /emo/ thread might use 'depressivelad' or whatever to show they're speaking from experience rather than just theory. I might be wrong, but that's how I read it.
>> No. 23058 Cockernay
12th November 2014
Wednesday 3:25 pm
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>>23057

But this is obviously the guy living in Russia who afaik is the only one who refers to himself as 'expat-lad'. Everyone moaned when Hong Kong-lad did the same.
>> No. 23059 Fairy
12th November 2014
Wednesday 3:31 pm
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>>23058
Oh, fair enough then - I hadn't noticed it being used before, so I assumed it was just for context in this thread. If he's trying to carve out an identity for himself as THE Expat-lad then he's clearly an arse and deserves to be chastised. It'd be like me calling myself doesn't-pay-enough-attention-lad.
>> No. 23060 Britfag
12th November 2014
Wednesday 3:42 pm
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>>23058
No, we moaned about the tit from HK because he dropped his being there into seemingly every post, regardless of whether or not it was relevant. In this case, I think it's relevant, this being a thread about shit Russia is getting up to.
>> No. 23061 Monkey
12th November 2014
Wednesday 3:55 pm
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When you're somewhere else that other people aren't, it comes up a lot in your posts. You can't help it. Like for example, your weekend thread posts are going to be different, you can't access certain websites (or at least as easily) and you might have to ask people to describe urls for you, that sort of thing.

There are quite a few expatriates on .gs though, you can't be the expatlad. There's usually more than one lad of any particular flavour.
>> No. 23062 Raoul
12th November 2014
Wednesday 9:44 pm
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>>23055

The Saudis are dropping the price of crude to punish the Americans, not at their bequest. Russia is just a crossfire casualty in this. The Saudis want to see off the shale revolution by making it uneconomic to source. Just google Shale, oil prices and Saudi and read about it from the source of your choice.

>>23059

It's fine - I won't do it again, I hate this kind of thing and felt dubious about using it. I considered the pros and cons of giving weight to my opinion v being considered a dick - given that I'm only in the UK for a couple of weeks a year, and I'm IP banned at home, I thought it worth it. HK lad was a true cunt and brought it up all the time for no reason, I'm only identifying myself as a resident of Russia in the 2 threads currently discussing Russian issues.
>> No. 23063 Cockernay
12th November 2014
Wednesday 9:46 pm
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>>23050
Shouldn't Russia be vodka rather than salt?
>> No. 23064 Monkey
12th November 2014
Wednesday 9:58 pm
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>>23063
No, because vodka plus HFCS would be fucking divine.
>> No. 23065 Cockernay
12th November 2014
Wednesday 10:12 pm
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>>23064
That doesn't mean the analogy is wrong. Maybe Russian-occupied Ukraine is fucking divine.
>> No. 23066 Raoul
12th November 2014
Wednesday 10:55 pm
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>>23065
>That doesn't mean the analogy is wrong.
If the analogy is "becomes positively revolting when mixed" then it definitely helps if the two things being mixed produce something revolting, as I can confirm from personal experience in the case of salt and sugar.
>> No. 23067 Cockernay
12th November 2014
Wednesday 11:02 pm
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>>23066
A pinch of sugar actually goes quite well in most dishes, especially salty ones. I'm just saying that maybe if the US influence is HFCS and Russia is vodka (which makes more sense than salt) and those things go together well then maybe you need to re-evaluate your idea of Russian-occupied Ukraine. Maybe it's just the propaganda making you think it doesn't go well.
>> No. 23068 Gazza
12th November 2014
Wednesday 11:10 pm
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>>23067
Drop the remote and step away from the RT, lad.
>> No. 23069 Cockernay
12th November 2014
Wednesday 11:19 pm
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>>23068
All I'm saying is that a little bit of sugar goes well even in salty dishes.
>> No. 23070 Cockernay
12th November 2014
Wednesday 11:25 pm
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>>23069

Another Raging Red, going mad on the web.
>> No. 23071 Cockernay
12th November 2014
Wednesday 11:34 pm
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>>23070

Are you so brainwashed by your politics that you can't see when someone's just fucking about with semantics for a laugh?
>> No. 23072 Cockernay
12th November 2014
Wednesday 11:54 pm
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>>23071

What do you think I was just doing, ya' goof ball.
>> No. 23073 Cockernay
13th November 2014
Thursday 10:42 am
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>>23062

>John Kerry, the US secretary of state, allegedly struck a deal with King Abdullah in September under which the Saudis would sell crude at below the prevailing market price. That would help explain why the price has been falling at a time when, given the turmoil in Iraq and Syria caused by Islamic State, it would normally have been rising.

http://www.theguardian.com/business/economics-blog/2014/nov/09/us-iran-russia-oil-prices-shale
>> No. 23074 Cockernay
13th November 2014
Thursday 11:08 am
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>>23073
If they played along, it would be because it was already in their interests to do so. Cheap crude helps undercut shale, and reduces the financing available to ISIx, who are decidedly non-OPEC and therefore competition.
>> No. 23091 Fairy
22nd November 2014
Saturday 3:09 am
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>>23042

What is this thing about Russia and roosters?
>> No. 23092 Boyo
22nd November 2014
Saturday 3:15 am
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>>23091
In Russian prison slang the rooster is the guy who gets arseraped all the time without doing any arseraping himself, the lowest of the low in the hierarchy.
>> No. 23093 Fairy
22nd November 2014
Saturday 3:31 am
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>>23092

Hmmmmmm, this sounds like bullshit....But I take your word for it!
>> No. 23094 Boyo
22nd November 2014
Saturday 3:58 am
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>>23093
Well, whether you choose to believe it or not, that is the case.
>> No. 23095 Clog
22nd November 2014
Saturday 10:51 am
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>>23092
But why so much arseraping?
>> No. 23096 Fairy
22nd November 2014
Saturday 11:35 am
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>>23095
It's Russia.
>> No. 23100 Fairy
22nd November 2014
Saturday 12:42 pm
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>>23096

I remember being told by a Russian that if people find out that you licked out a girl, you would get the shit kicked out of you because this is seen as "homosexual and weak". However fucking a guy in the arse? That's fine.

Make that as you will.
>> No. 23101 Cockernay
22nd November 2014
Saturday 12:49 pm
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>>23100

It makes sense. It's not so much about sexuality as weakness/submission to strength/domination.
>> No. 23102 Clog
22nd November 2014
Saturday 1:50 pm
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>>23100
Silly Russian poofters. And they're supposed to hate the gays.
>> No. 23109 Cockernay
22nd November 2014
Saturday 6:36 pm
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>>23100
Russian expat in the uk here
Not really, it's because so-called zashkvar since you gonna share the common mug of chefir with other respectable inmates and transmit "zashkvar" to their lips or using other objects of common use. So yes, you admit it and become a rooster.
There are worse roles in the cells. One of the worst might be "gasonyuh", who takes the farts into his mouth and then runs to the window to blow them out so not to contaminate the cell lol.

And swearing isn't allowed either because for every word you say you must take responsibility and provide proofs. So, if you call someone "petuh" and he is not, it's you who will drop in the hierarchy forever, even if transferred to another location.
When arrived at a new location, please announce your rank immediately, so the other won't get "zashkvar" handshaking you.

Lastly, If you are a rooster and very abused/mistreated the final solution for you is to kiss the cell leader. You will be dead but he'll be sort of a dead too.

But don't worry, foreign nationals are treated kindly like guests.
>> No. 23110 Britfag
22nd November 2014
Saturday 8:02 pm
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>>23109
>There are worse roles in the cells. One of the worst might be "gasonyuh", who takes the farts into his mouth and then runs to the window to blow them out so not to contaminate the cell lol.
Jesus.
>> No. 23113 Cockernay
22nd November 2014
Saturday 8:08 pm
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>>23109

>But don't worry, foreign nationals are treated kindly like guests

Nice try, Recruitingdrugsmulesladski.
>> No. 23115 Britfag
22nd November 2014
Saturday 8:27 pm
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>>23110
>gasonyuh
>gas on you

Trolled softly.
>> No. 23117 Cockernay
22nd November 2014
Saturday 8:54 pm
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>>23115
"nyuh" means sense of smell
>>23113
Not an island, there is no shortage for mules and none are using the airports

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