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>> No. 23336 Cuckoo
28th June 2015
Sunday 9:24 pm
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Did ze ip wall come down? Or does Switzerland have a uk IP?
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>> No. 23337 Fairy
28th June 2015
Sunday 9:25 pm
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>>23336
Switzerland does not have a UK IP.
>> No. 23338 Raoul
28th June 2015
Sunday 9:27 pm
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I couldn't get on when I was in Switzerland a couple of months back.

Maybe the wall has come down when Purps let Bulbalad back in.
>> No. 23339 Fairy
28th June 2015
Sunday 9:39 pm
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>>23338
Maybe that is what happened.
>> No. 23340 Fairy
28th June 2015
Sunday 10:26 pm
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>> No. 23341 Cowboy
28th June 2015
Sunday 10:31 pm
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>>23338

A combination of the database being out of date which was blocking people from the UK and Minsklad being blocked.

I wonder what ever happened to Ruskiemod when the great wall went up?
>> No. 23342 Fairy
28th June 2015
Sunday 10:37 pm
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>>23340
I'm not sure this Nena bloke did 99 Red Balloons any justice at all. For a start, his balloons aren't even red.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9CnDvtwYn6I
>> No. 23344 Raoul
28th June 2015
Sunday 10:43 pm
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>>23340
Deep down, part of me fears that there was already milk in the cup.
>> No. 23345 Fairy
28th June 2015
Sunday 11:34 pm
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>>23344
Milk first is correct ladm8.
>> No. 23346 Raoul
28th June 2015
Sunday 11:52 pm
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>>23345
It might be correct if you're a filthy, disgusting heathen.
>> No. 23347 Monkey
29th June 2015
Monday 12:14 am
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>>23345
One should pour tea into the cup first. This is one of the most controversial points of all; indeed in every family in Britain there are probably two schools of thought on the subject. The milk-first school can bring forward some fairly strong arguments, but I maintain that my own argument is unanswerable. This is that, by putting the tea in first and stirring as one pours, one can exactly regulate the amount of milk whereas one is liable to put in too much milk if one does it the other way round.
>> No. 23348 Britfag
29th June 2015
Monday 12:37 am
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>>23345
>>23346
>>23347
Milk first is a hang-over from the time when we only had china cups to drink from, which would expand and crack from the heat of the tea being poured in. With a modern tea cup this doesn't happen and it makes no difference to the flavour which one you put in first.
Just take out the teabag before you mix the two, for fuck's sake.
>> No. 23349 Dubya
29th June 2015
Monday 1:24 am
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>>23348

It matters a great deal if you add milk, sugar and a tea bag to a mug and then add hot water and it does impact on the flavour as the milk seals up the pores in the bag and it can't diffuse properly.

Ideally, you shouldn't be putting bovine lactose anywhere near your herbal infusions.
>> No. 23350 Britfag
29th June 2015
Monday 1:26 am
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>>23349
>Just take out the teabag before you mix the two, for fuck's sake.
>> No. 23351 Redneck
29th June 2015
Monday 1:29 am
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>>23350

So, add milk and sugar and a teabag. Then take the bag out, then add hot water? What the fuck are you on about, that is hot watery milk not tea.
>> No. 23352 Britfag
29th June 2015
Monday 1:31 am
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>>23351

Wow.
>> No. 23353 Redneck
29th June 2015
Monday 1:34 am
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>>23352

Qualify this in the context of >>23349.

Good luck.
>> No. 23354 Britfag
29th June 2015
Monday 1:36 am
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>>23353

Try re-reading >>23347 and >>23348 and see if you can guess where you've gone wrong.
>> No. 23355 Cowboy
29th June 2015
Monday 1:42 am
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>>23352

What you quoted doesn't make sense in context. What would be the point of removing the teabag from the milk before adding the water? The damage has already been done.

If you insist on using milk when making a mug of tea, rather than a pot which is different scenario entirely, then you simply must add the milk last which I suspect is what you were trying to infer, but that isn't what you said so quoting what you did say, bearing in mind you said "It doesn't make a difference" when apparently it does, doesn't make sense.
>> No. 23356 Britfag
29th June 2015
Monday 1:44 am
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>>23355

Why on Earth would anyone put their teabag in the milk?
>> No. 23357 Dubya
29th June 2015
Monday 1:45 am
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>>23354

>With a modern teacup it doesn't matter which one you put in first

But it does matter. If you put milk in first, you kill the teabag. If you put milk in at any point while the bag is still in the mug, you kill the tea bag.
>> No. 23358 Dubya
29th June 2015
Monday 1:47 am
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>>23356

Well, according to you it doesn't make a difference.
>> No. 23359 Britfag
29th June 2015
Monday 1:55 am
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>>23357
You would only ever put the milk in first if you're pouring tea from a teapot, where it has already stewed. You don't use teapots to pour hot water onto teabags. When you're doing that, it makes no difference to the flavour whether you put the tea or milk in first (although as was previously noted, it's easier to judge milky the tea will be if you add the tea first, milk second).
>Just take out the teabag before you mix the two, for fuck's sake.

It's just understood that you don't pour milk onto a dry teabag. How could you even imagine anyone doing otherwise?
>> No. 23360 Fairy
29th June 2015
Monday 3:19 am
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>>23346
Christ on a bike, this might be /zoo/ but does nobody know how to make a cup of tea? Milk last is specifically recommended by the RSC: http://www.academiaobscura.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/RSC-tea-guidelines.pdf

>Place one rounded teaspoon of tea per cup into the pot.
>Take the pot to the kettle as it is boiling, pour onto the leaves and stir
>Leave to brew for three minutes.
>The ideal receptacle is a ceramic mug or your favourite personal mug.
>Pour milk into the cup FIRST, followed by the tea, aiming to achieve a colour that is rich and attractive.
>Add sugar to taste.
>Drink at between 60-65 degrees Centigrade to avoid vulgar slurping which results from trying to drink tea at too high a temperature.

The reason for this is that milk enzymes denature at high temperature, so by adding milk to tea you scald the milk resulting in a poorer taste.
>> No. 23361 Wastelander
29th June 2015
Monday 3:35 am
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>>23360

BS6008/ISO3103 specifies milk in first, although milk in last is acceptable if the tea is allowed to cool first.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_3103
>> No. 23362 Wastelander
29th June 2015
Monday 3:40 am
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>>23361

P.S.: Here are full instructions on the proper preparation of tea, courtesy of the Empire Tea Bureau.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnvYymrCn4g
>> No. 23363 Cockernay
29th June 2015
Monday 8:36 am
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>>23361
That standard does not provide for a standard method of making a cup of tea. It is an exemplar standard illustrating how to write a standard.
>> No. 23367 Fairy
29th June 2015
Monday 8:54 am
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>>23363
>That standard does not provide for a standard method of making a cup of tea.
>BSI 6008 was drawn up to set a standard for professional tea testers.

>It is an exemplar standard illustrating how to write a standard.
According to whom? It seems to me that a standard for writing a standard would contain such information if that were its intended purpose.
>> No. 23368 Raoul
29th June 2015
Monday 9:32 am
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>>23360

In this example the tea is added to the milk in the cup from a tea pot. This means that the tea is hot, not boiling, after having been brewed. This is the same as adding milk to tea brewed in a cup.

Taste is always a factor. I like to brew very strong tea, then add a little milk. Putting a teabag onto milk then adding hot water it's going to produce a weak, milky tea, with no bitterness or plantiness. If that's your taste, it doesn't make sense to say it's wrong or right, but it's a bit odd.
>> No. 23370 Cockernay
29th June 2015
Monday 9:38 am
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>>23367
According to pretty much anyone in ISO and BSI.

>This standard is not meant to define the proper method for brewing tea, but rather how to document tea brewing procedure so sensory comparisons can be made.
>> No. 23372 Fairy
29th June 2015
Monday 9:49 am
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>>23370
The statement you now quote does not support your original statement. It supports the one I quoted.

>It is an exemplar standard illustrating how to write a standard.
>BSI 6008 was drawn up to set a standard for professional tea testers.

I don't understand how you see these as remotely equivalent.
>> No. 23373 Britfag
29th June 2015
Monday 10:16 am
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>>23372
You don't think "how to document" a standard method is a standardisation activity?
>> No. 23374 Fairy
29th June 2015
Monday 10:41 am
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>>23373
It feels like we're speaking two different languages and I'm not the type to spend ten posts going back and forth in an attempt to establish what got said and what was meant. We'll have to disagree to agree.
>> No. 23375 Britfag
29th June 2015
Monday 10:49 am
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>>23374
You can say that if you like. Evidently you're repeating whatever some blogger or "journalist" is saying, whereas I've actually had sight of the document itself.
>> No. 23376 Fairy
29th June 2015
Monday 11:02 am
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>>23375
I had sight of the document itself and read a journalist's interview of someone at BSI. I really do despair at this site's users sometimes. I expressed an interest in terminating the discussion and you feel a need to tell me what I have and haven't done when you have precisely zero way of knowing. Fuck you all.
>> No. 23377 Britfag
29th June 2015
Monday 12:17 pm
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>>23376
>I had sight of the document itself
So presumably you spotted the explanatory note that points out that it doesn't prescribe a method of brewing tea but rather how to document a process, right?
>> No. 23380 Fairy
29th June 2015
Monday 3:49 pm
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>>23368
obviously allowing milk anywhere near the tea before it has brewed is something only a blithering idiot would do. Sometimes when I'm in a rush I'll brew tea in a mug which requires the milk to go in last, but if you take the time to brew in a pot and pour the tea into a cup with milk already added the taste is noticeably stronger and better.
>> No. 23381 Fairy
29th June 2015
Monday 3:58 pm
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>>23368
also adding milk to brewed tea is not the same as adding tea to milk. The difference is subtle but if you add a little milk to tea at say 90C the milk is heated to a higher temperature than if tea is poured slowly into milk, assuming fast diffusion of heat within the mixture.
>> No. 23382 Redneck
30th June 2015
Tuesday 12:30 am
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I stopped putting milk in my tea when I was on the dole and I've never looked back. It think it tastes far better, it's stronger and has a richer flavour. Milk ruins the flavour of poncey tea for me as well, and it doesn't go well with Red Bush either and that is my staple these days because no caffeine.

Bovine lactose, etc.
>> No. 23383 Monkey
30th June 2015
Tuesday 8:09 am
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>>23381

Yes that does make sense, haven't brewed tea in the pot in a while, I'll have to get some loose leaf in today when I pop out to get my Nan's birthday card. Might even treat myself to a packet of custard creams.
>> No. 23384 Britfag
30th June 2015
Tuesday 10:03 am
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>>23382
That's only a problem for the sort of ponces who drink poncey tea.

(A good day to you Sir!)
>> No. 23385 Cowboy
30th June 2015
Tuesday 12:30 pm
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>>23384

Fuck you and your tea snobbery, it has no place in a tea thread. Milk snobbery is fine, though.
>> No. 23386 Cockernay
30th June 2015
Tuesday 1:32 pm
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>>23385

Meta snobbery.
>> No. 24028 Dubya
14th August 2017
Monday 2:29 pm
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Last time I went to Switzerland the wall only just went down this time it only just went up.

It's like rain on your wedding day, innit.

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