And the modern age puts the following 'piece of art' next to the cathedral.

>>2974
http://www.crossroad.to/articles2/006/communist-goals-congressional.htm

>23. Control art critics and directors of art museums. "Our plan is to promote ugliness, repulsive, meaningless art."

The alcoves to the left and right of the main front doors of the cathedral are pretty great to get pissed in.

>>2976
Sinner.

>>2975

Actually the CIA heavily influenced modern art, communists always prefered socialist realism.

>>2980

Noice, but engines don't work that way. It sure looks pretty though.

WHO U TRYIN 2 KID M8 DATS OBV A FOTO LOL

>>2990

I gave up trying to figure out what goes where and how. I know there's a few bits missing and the proportions got messed up somewhere along the lines, but I wouldn't mind some pointers.

>>2991

LOL xD so randum

>>2992

And another. There's wires and things that are obviously missing, but like fuck I'm going to fix it any time soon.

Sit down with a pencil and draw people. I couldn't afford to go to a still life class (Which is fucking amazing and the #1 thing you can do to improve as an artist), so what I did was just sit in a busy public area and draw the people that went past. It was a great way to improve.

Buy old junk from tips super cheap. Try and find a local arts recycling project, tons of free junk; The one near me makes you pay £10 a year for membership to go in and take whatever you want. Hm, use Tesco or similar packs of cheap printing paper to do 100's of cheap drawings for about £4-6 depending on how many pens or pencils you use, for all the repetitive practice involved in getting better at drawing. Steal from construction sites at night. If you have friends with office jobs ask them to keep an ear open for old technologiezz (monitors/computers/photocopiers/desks) and stuff that gets thrown out, a lot of places replace every few years and just send the old and perfectly working stuff off to tips. Read reviews and essays about art and artists free online, learn why you're make shit and everyone else isn't, and such (tate has a new video archive online which is quite good so far). Getting more skill sets just involves grabbing a book from the library or online and doing what it tells you a few times, then a few more hundred times till you mastered it. Drawing, just like the guy above said. If you go to busy libraries, over ground train stations, coffee shops, and etc, you'll find people who sit still for very long periods of time.
Depends on how you 'express your self' really. Also for more technical stuff you can usually sign up for night school, get a few lessons and access to all their equipment for very cheap. I use to do this when I was into printmaking, can't even comprehend how much a big press would be but I went to all three of the local colleges, but they might let you repeat the same ones again -I dunno, I'm not confrontational enough to let them realise I just wanted their print materials.

I shouldn't reply. There's no point. But I'm passionate about the topic. The simple fact is that without excellent instruction you will NEVER PROGRESS. Why? Because art, and the methods of it, are as elaborate as mathematics.

For example, the following transpired on 5 June 2035
[scene: the beach]
<Young Boy> Hello, Mr! You look really smart. you must be a scientist!
<Einstein> I am. As a matter of fact I'm Einstein clone 3281, my boy.
<Young Boy> Wow, how can I become a great scientist like you?
<Einstein> It's very simple. All you need is a sheet of paper and pencils.
<Young Boy> And elite education, membership in government research circles, and access to private cutting-edge research are of no use?
<Einstein> No use. All you need is pencils and paper.

>>2751

Good job there. It was about time >>2662 abandoned his thinly disguised plan to become Einstein.

And all you pillocks giving him sensible tips as to how he can build upon his interest in art should be ashamed of yourselves.

Yeah, studying light (by studying I obviously mean studying by sketching) will bring insight to all of your work. You could spend 3 years drawing different sized boxes in different levels of light and you'd only improve.

Letters can definitely be considered art - however we usually don't think it of the ones we're most familiar with. In Western societies, people find characters from Oriental scripts pleasing, and turn them into tattoos and such. In China, the reverse is true - they make merchandise (graphic t-shirts, for example) with text in the Latin alphabet, often without any idea what it means, so you end up with children's clothes shops stocking shirts with "fuck" and "i love racism" on them.

>>2800

From a Fine art perspective (hurf student):

Letters, words, phrases ect. are all symbols/placeholders used by societies for emotional and intellectual response, and are thus an extremely valid vehicle to utilise, particularly in contemporary art which places dissemination of concept at a much higher level to aesthetic form (words and phrases are great for their malleablity). Not to say that the presentation of the words doesn't have a profound effect on how the message is conveyed (because it does, and has huge potential to change the whole peice).

In the end, the general response to "is x and x art?" is that anything can be art as long as it is scrutinised, deconstructed and conpared as art. The movement towards conceptualisation and installation has only reinforced this idea and semiotics has become a staple of the intellectual process of desconstruction.

In terms of whether typography can be classed as "good art" though is wholly dependant on how you decide to tackle the concept. calligraphy - adding curly loops onto things itself is fairly shallow, as is fonts ect. it's an artform, but it isn't necessarily art. To forgo the message implied in the actual text to alone look at the aesthetic in which it is presented is ridiculous; you need to scrutinise the entire peice and the aesthetic presentation needs to have a meaningful relationship with the diction of the text involved otherwise it's simply needless pretention of the INT THAT GUD espousers.

If you want to explore the possibilities of using text in art, remember to look at the big picture. Marrying the concepts together (aesthetic, diction and implication) has the potential to make incredibly powerful statements very elegantly.

>implying art is not on every key he pressed to make the post.

fucking idiot.

>>2921

>implying

Fucking stop this you little cunt.

Gentlemen, please. Not this sort of thing on /art/. It's a nice quiet little neighbourhood.

>>2882

Print onto A4, then spray glue them onto paperboard and cut out with a sharpie.

That'll work, thanks.

Do you know of any other techniques? I remember seeing Shepard Fairy with a big ream of paper at a photocopier in Exit Through the Gift Shop.

>>2882

There's a free online service for turning images into large sizes suitable for printing off as A4. Gives them that comic style dot print effect. If you look on google you will be sure to find it. Others will likely have fun with it too.

>>2915
And it can be found at http://homokaasu.org/rasterbator/

>>2910
In no way does that image make sense.

>>2907

If you know it is a forgery then it is a "replica" or "reproduction". It's really only a forgery if it is sold under dishonest circumstances.

And yes I would quite happily if it was what I wanted.

>>2907

There's a few art pieces I'd love to have but would have to hope for a reproduction to get my hands on them, so yes.

I have admired a probable forgery of El Greco's 'Allegory' at close quarters. All the beauty and information of the original was also in the forgery.

There was an exhibition of forgeries in London a while ago, I never got to visit, but it did seem far more interesting to look at the forgeries, and the stories behind the forgeries, than to look at the original artworks themselves.

OH GOD

Congratulations, you've discovered the fine art of SFW Porn. Hours of fun await.

Oh wow, that's fantastic.
Well... Obviously it's not of great cultural value, but it did make me laugh.
Thanks, OP.

I'm sure everyone on Earth has seen this already, but just in case...
https://www.youtube.com/v/fmXGEplvPuY

>>2909
HAhaha, thanks for posting that. A good chuckle.

>>2898 is much preferable to your other ones, it actually has a slightly more distinctive style to it. Keep on at it.

>>2878
Does your food lack taste and spice?
A bit of Polonium will be my advice!

>>2880

It rhymes in english too? Crazy.

>>2885 I made it to.

This girl is starring on man introducing something in her food. Upward wrote:" Are the food without spiced and concord?"
Bellow is wrote:"Just add a bit of pollonium"

>>2887

I prefer >>2880's rendering, to be quite honest. Thanks though!

>>2873
Forget everything you know about Art. Take a Technical Drawing course.

This is an actual art form? I've done these for years absent mindedly, I've done hundreds. How odd. I have no art background at all, I just doodle geometric shapes in this sort of manner....

>>2874

I asked a friend and he told me that there are different courses and different software that I can learn. Which course/program do you suggest?

>>2859

It's not difficult to take your finger off the shift key either.

>>2859
You realise this is an anonymous imageboard, and that i dont give a flying fuck, right?

>>2861
14 year old alert!

>>2862

You couldn't tell that from the OP?

>>2862

>>2840

Semi-wrong. Side arms are generally only used if you are out of ammo for main weapon. Bayonet would be useable though.

I know this from years of playing call of duty.

Well, my objection was that people don't burst like that, entry wounds are tiny, exit wounds are the enormous ones.

Aside from that, both the image and the OP are quite pretentious and more than a little bit shit.

>>2844

A mocking tone is hard to convey so I'll let you off for taking me seriously.

>>2843
Call of duty isn't realistic you madman.

>>2846
I think the post above yours also applies to what you said.

>>2831

If you want something modern and more or less compatible with your 350d Canon made loads EOS film bodies, but these only work with EF mount lenses and not EF-S apparently, but EF lenses will work on both.

If you want something a bit less electronic then canon, nikon, pentax and olympus kit from the 70s and 80s is usually relatively cheap and well built, and can be better than the modern kit in some ways IMO.

Personally I like pentax kit since everything uses the same mount (including their DSLRs) and it supports M42 screwmount lenses if you're into that sort of thing.

Yeah, since I posted this thread I ended up buying a Canon Rebel 2000 (the american name, no idea what it was released in the UK under), It's a real shame I can't use my EF-S lenses because I love my 10mm lens; I'll keep a lookout on ebay for one.

>>2827
Interesting, I rather like it, although I'm not sure I'd want to have it put up anywhere, bit weird.

Some of the remind me of a creepier version of Chris Riddell's work