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>> No. 23560 Anonymous
16th November 2016
Wednesday 6:49 pm
23560 Minor angst and existential dread, Mk. I
We tend to have a lot of repeated threads here, but I also get the feeling people don't tend to post in /emo/ unless it's a big issue.

With this in mind I suggest that we have a thread for stuff that's got you down a bit and you need to get off your chest, without it being major enough to make an entire thread devoted to it. We can also use it as a go-to for minor relationship advice, work problems, social drama, and things like that.

Everyone gets down from time to time, let's put some Sisters of Mercy on and wallow together for a while.
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>> No. 25299 Anonymous
17th August 2017
Thursday 10:31 pm
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Your politics are intersectional or they are bullshit.
>> No. 25300 Anonymous
17th August 2017
Thursday 10:54 pm
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When I am confronted by the major political questions of the day, I stop to ask myself, "what solution would be most fun?"
>> No. 25301 Anonymous
17th August 2017
Thursday 11:27 pm
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I wasn't even trying to be aggressive and all I get is someone assuming I'm against intersectional analysis of politics. I can't figure out if this is bait or not, and that's bad.

As far as fun goes, I'm not saying politics is trivial I just mean that (essentially) shouting at people might feel justified and right due to how you perceive your cause but that doesn't make it easy to engage in left politics a lot of the time. Feels a little oppressive, which is why I still hang about on chan boards because you'll at least have politically incorrect but left-oriented individuals that'll brave the pits to try and broaden their horizons. That's just my observations on t'internet. My complaints probably mostly stem from internet interactions.
>> No. 25302 Anonymous
18th August 2017
Friday 11:12 am
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Fortunately though people who are actually trying to change things don't have the time or patience to indulge your concern trolling.

If you feel 'oppressed' by 'lefty discourse', then you're probably quite privileged to begin with. You can either recognise that, or look elsewhere.
>> No. 25303 Anonymous
18th August 2017
Friday 11:42 am
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There's an awful lot of 'Bash the fash' stuff going on over on facebook with people advocating non-violent resistance being labelled Nazi-sympathisers and subsequently ejected from the echo chambers.
It's not so much that I mind people punching white supremacists as I mind them posting on facebook about it.
The people posting pro-Trump stuff bother me too but for different reasons.
>> No. 25304 Anonymous
18th August 2017
Friday 12:28 pm
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I can highly recommend the book Days of Rage. It's a history of violent left-wing extremism in the US in the 60s and 70s. It's really quite extraordinary - white leftist radicals got away with an unbelievable range of violence, from bombings to kidnappings. It's almost completely forgotten now, but the establishment was bizarrely tolerant of left-wing violence.

>> No. 25305 Anonymous
18th August 2017
Friday 12:55 pm
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I feel like this reviewer is a little biased.
>Davis, if you don’t know, is so dedicated to communism that she literally got her Ph.D. behind the Iron Curtain. From a moral perspective, that’s a little like somebody getting a Ph.D. in old South Africa specifically because they dig apartheid.
>> No. 25306 Anonymous
18th August 2017
Friday 1:57 pm
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>but the establishment was bizarrely tolerant of left-wing violence

Bullshit, lad, utter BS.

>According to attorney Brian Glick in his book War at Home, the FBI used four main methods during COINTELPRO:

>Infiltration: Agents and informers did not merely spy on political activists. Their main purpose was to discredit and disrupt. Their very presence served to undermine trust and scare off potential supporters. The FBI and police exploited this fear to smear genuine activists as agents.
>Psychological warfare: The FBI and police used myriad "dirty tricks" to undermine progressive movements. They planted false media stories and published bogus leaflets and other publications in the name of targeted groups. They forged correspondence, sent anonymous letters, and made anonymous telephone calls. They spread misinformation about meetings and events, set up pseudo movement groups run by government agents, and manipulated or strong-armed parents, employers, landlords, school officials and others to cause trouble for activists. They used bad-jacketing to create suspicion about targeted activists, sometimes with lethal consequences.
>Harassment via the legal system: The FBI and police abused the legal system to harass dissidents and make them appear to be criminals. Officers of the law gave perjured testimony and presented fabricated evidence as a pretext for false arrests and wrongful imprisonment. They discriminatorily enforced tax laws and other government regulations and used conspicuous surveillance, "investigative" interviews, and grand jury subpoenas in an effort to intimidate activists and silence their supporters.
>Illegal force: The FBI conspired with local police departments to threaten dissidents; to conduct illegal break-ins in order to search dissident homes; and to commit vandalism, assaults, beatings and assassinations. The object was to frighten or eliminate dissidents and disrupt their movements.

The Establishment murdered leading members of the Black resistance and Labour movements, too. If you don't know about the US's brutal internal war against its Left, I doubt you've even read the book you're promoting.
>> No. 25307 Anonymous
18th August 2017
Friday 2:22 pm
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Bill Ayers participated in the bombings of the New York City Police Department headquarters, the United States Capitol building and the Pentagon. Precisely because of COINTELPRO, all charges against him were dropped. He served no prison time and went on to become a tenured professor at the University of Illinois. His accomplice Bernadette Dohrn got three years probation; Cathlyn Wikerson served eleven months in prison.

They planted bombs in federal government buildings, but they got off practically scot-free. They would have faced substantially harsher punishment if they had been caught with a quarter of hash. The book describes numerous other radical leftists who avoided any serious punishment for what we would now define as acts of terrorism. If that doesn't count as "bizarrely tolerant", I'm not sure what does.


The book details the remarkably different treatment of black and white radicals; white radicals tended to end up with careers in law and academia, while black radicals tended to end up dead.
>> No. 25309 Anonymous
18th August 2017
Friday 8:48 pm
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I like it. Hopefully this will cause a split and all those Hummus buying bastards can fuck off to their ivory towers and stop calling themselves leftists.

Maybe sometime down the line, we can have a proper class war.
>> No. 25310 Anonymous
18th August 2017
Friday 9:52 pm
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This feels uncomfortably like /pol/ has leaked into /emo/ but I will admit that the current political climate is leaving me feeling quite uncomfortable too, largely because I feel that both apparent "sides" are a complete shower of idiots.
>> No. 25311 Anonymous
18th August 2017
Friday 10:25 pm
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>It's a history of violent left-wing extremism in the US in the 60s and 70s. It's really quite extraordinary - white leftist radicals got away with an unbelievable range of violence, from bombings to kidnappings
I think it was kind of a result of the social conditions in which it all took place. The 60s and 70s were obviously a period of massive social and political upheaval in the US (despite popular imagination, the 70s were much more so, and that was when violent left wing radicalism really hit its peak). There's a pretty clear progression in suspicion and scrutiny of law and intelligence institutions from the Chicago riots, to Kent State, to Watergate, to the Pyle revelations and culminating in the Church and Pike Committees. It wasn't a society where you could crack down on dissent, even violent dissent, with impunity. At a certain point the tide turned though, and Reagan's election was partly an expression of pent up contempt not just for perceived leniency on foreign pinkos but also for enemies closer to home. He transformed American politics on a fundamental level, which leaves what came prior to him looking pretty bizarre, but it was an aberrant time all round.
>> No. 25312 Anonymous
18th August 2017
Friday 10:26 pm
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I'm not saying you're guilty of this, but there's a false moral equivalence that's doing the rounds and I don't get it. We're staring fascism in the face, and yet some of us will still take every opportunity to say, "do you know that those crazy leftie bastards fighting it believe in 58 genders, safe spaces and will go batshit if I call my mate Dave 'mah nigga'".

So. Fucking. What. Take a broader view, get your priorities in order and learn to tell an enemy when you see one. We (the level-headed, forever-right pragmatists of .gs, that is) will have to make common cause with those annoying vegetarian, zany-haired, activist brats on our Facebook feed when things come to a head. Don't fool yourself into believing you can be so breezy and clever - or, urgh, neutral - when the storm hits.

Of course, this is unless you're a nationalist or an alt-rightist and know you're on the fascist's side. In which case, I'll see you in Battle for Westfield.
>> No. 25313 Anonymous
18th August 2017
Friday 10:29 pm
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Yes. Both very easily led and prone to pack mentality too. I don't think people are getting more stupid as much as propaganda is getting better and the very wealthy have more to lose. The old divide and conquer routine going back to colonising Africa.
>> No. 25314 Anonymous
18th August 2017
Friday 10:50 pm
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I'm not a fascist or a nationalist, but I do think that lines of thought like "We will have to make common cause with those annoying vegetarian, zany-haired, activist brats on our Facebook feed when things come to a head and if you don't agree you are a fascist and a nationalist" are being used to force people to pick a side in what is going to be a "war" without winners.


Definitely agreed about propaganda. Social media has massively amplified the effects that propaganda has and the rate at which it spreads.
>> No. 25316 Anonymous
18th August 2017
Friday 11:18 pm
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There's an excellent episode of radio war nerd (a podcast I highly recommend to anyone interested in the history of conflict and insurgency) which discusses this book, as well as covering the topic more broadly, if anyone's curious.


(Discussion of the title subject starts at around 52:00)
>> No. 25317 Anonymous
19th August 2017
Saturday 12:01 am
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Rather them than actual nazis.
>> No. 25318 Anonymous
19th August 2017
Saturday 12:16 am
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What's your image proving?
>> No. 25320 Anonymous
19th August 2017
Saturday 12:48 am
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Not him but...

That a bunch of autists posting on the arse end of the internet are somehow a global Nazi threat which needs to be eliminated immediately rather than just ignored. Apparently.
>> No. 25321 Anonymous
19th August 2017
Saturday 1:13 am
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Nothing but that the gibbering is getting louder.
>> No. 25323 Anonymous
19th August 2017
Saturday 1:09 pm
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Only there aren't mad bastard fascists everywhere but there are plenty of mad leftists running around that are in tangible positions undermining science and meritocracy and liberal principals, ruining our astroid landings, and striving to restrict the exchange of free though in universities, and trying to normalise misandry. The false equivilance here is pretending that fascists are a remotely credible threat.

You've seen a handful of the far right appear halfway across the globe and now you feel we all must rally together against them, fuck off, that's not worthy of my time, but you'll justify that by talking about the greater potential threat the right poses. Have you forgotten that Italian fascism was fairly bloodless and the greatest massicures of the 20th century were leftists, or is it too no true Scotsman to admit.

Say it with me now 'lefties have been as bad and sometimes worse than Hitler', I don't know why people have a selective memory for Pol pot, Stalin and Mao, but they do. so when something sounds a bit too much like a Hitler quote people go mad, but no one seems to care about how aggressively militant left wing rhetoric is. I saw a woman wearing a stylizes portrait of Stalin on the tube yesterday. Could you see society being as indifferent to a picture of Hitler?

I known which one is more of a credible threat to my way of life, and it isn't a /Pol/ user 5000 miles away with a car. It's the people using the 'but when I do x...' be it censorship, racial or gender discrimination, mob justice, purging the unidelogically impure from the system, or genocide '...it is okay' that are normalising their bigotry and walk among us on a daily basis. They are the ones building the foundation for a totalitarian state not failchan.
>> No. 25324 Anonymous
19th August 2017
Saturday 1:25 pm
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>lefties have been as bad and sometimes worse than Hitler
That's the most asinine both sides shit I've ever read, congrats.
>> No. 25325 Anonymous
19th August 2017
Saturday 1:38 pm
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Barely coherent sinisterballs.
>> No. 25326 Anonymous
19th August 2017
Saturday 2:44 pm
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At least 30 million died during the great leap forward, possibly twice that. Between seven and ten million died in the holodomor. Pol Pot killed somewhere between 15% and 35% of the entire population of Cambodia.

Genocide is non-partisan.
>> No. 25327 Anonymous
19th August 2017
Saturday 3:03 pm
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>At least 30 million died during the great leap forward, possibly twice that. Between seven and ten million died in the holodomor
Famine resulting from failed agricultural policies is not the same thing as systematic industrial genocide.

Also, you might want to look into excess deaths from food deprivation in non-communist countries. The idea that industrialisation and collectivisation programmes in the USSR and China caused unique suffering is just flat out wrong.

>Pol Pot killed somewhere between 15% and 35% of the entire population of Cambodia
If you think the KR were leftist you quite probably haven't read anything about them past the introduction of their wiki page.
>> No. 25328 Anonymous ## Mod ##
19th August 2017
Saturday 3:35 pm
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Okay that's enough politics in /emo/.
I'm partly to blame for it too but let's leave it here.
>> No. 25354 Anonymous
24th August 2017
Thursday 12:55 pm
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The more I talk the more vulnerable I feel.
>> No. 25356 Anonymous
24th August 2017
Thursday 1:36 pm
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Is that like the saying that it's better to remain silent and be thought an idiot etc.?
>> No. 25357 Anonymous
24th August 2017
Thursday 2:02 pm
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..than talk and be proven one?
>> No. 25358 Anonymous
24th August 2017
Thursday 2:12 pm
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Thank you for demonstrating.
>> No. 25378 Anonymous
28th August 2017
Monday 11:33 pm
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I feel restless - like I want life to end already.
>> No. 25379 Anonymous
28th August 2017
Monday 11:46 pm
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So you feel like you've experienced everything life has to possibly offer you?
>> No. 25380 Anonymous
28th August 2017
Monday 11:54 pm
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No. It won't happen, so no point carrying on the charade.
>> No. 25381 Anonymous
29th August 2017
Tuesday 12:04 am
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So you feel a lack of control or agency?
>> No. 25383 Anonymous
29th August 2017
Tuesday 1:22 am
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That's a good way to put it I suppose.
>> No. 25385 Anonymous
29th August 2017
Tuesday 9:14 am
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Do you have any sort of creative outlet? You'd be surprised how much a little self expression if you are denying yourself it could make a difference to your mood.
>> No. 25391 Anonymous
29th August 2017
Tuesday 6:41 pm
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You might be right. I have bought a musical instrument, and picked up programming. Maybe that will distract me.
>> No. 25394 Anonymous
29th August 2017
Tuesday 11:28 pm
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If you're learning programming, check this out:

>> No. 25471 Anonymous
5th September 2017
Tuesday 2:29 am
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Pre-saged for utterly boring personal blog update:

Day 10 since my last (~10mg) dose of Venlafaxine after slowly cutting down from 112.5mg. No more brain zaps, almost no more "Whoosh Whoosh Whoosh" in the eardrums blood pressure sounds when I stand up too fast. My Anhedonia Orgasmica is slowly improving, albeit a lot slower than I had hoped given how short a period of time I was on this medication.

Thursday I managed 2.5 hours of exercise including 18 minutes of medium intensity sparring on only 0.5m of clonazepam. Friday I managed an hour but with 18 minutes of high intensity sparring and 6 minutes of low intensity - on no clonazepam at all. This also means that I haven't had any clonazepam since Thursday and I'm sure my psychiatrist would be delighted to hear this if I wasn't also off the SSRIs.

Anyway the irony is that I'm feeling and doing better today than any time since I took my first anti-depressant (Escitalopram) almost five months ago. I have my benzo use under control, I'm exercising, I even have three local tournaments lined up that I'm monitoring to see if my category has enough opponents to be worth signing up for. Next step is to get my drinking back to a "weekend only" basis and then I feel like I'm almost most of the way there towards being a functioning human again for the first time since 2011.

This seven-year trip into insanity, drugs abuse, dependency, and psychiatry has not been fun in any way (except for the meth addiction, the extra-marital affairs with university students ten years younger than me, and becoming a father).

Hopefully the end of the journey starts here.
>> No. 25525 Anonymous
6th September 2017
Wednesday 11:18 pm
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I have barely left the house for the last couple of weeks, and when I went out to the shop earlier I felt an undeniable social phobia. I never realised before how I need to maintain the skill of being outside with joe public.
>> No. 25646 Anonymous
16th September 2017
Saturday 10:43 am
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My girlfriend keeps nagging at me to visit my parents more often and for some reason it's proper winding me up.

I mean she's probably right, I don't see them often enough, but my family has never been as close as some are. That's just how we are. It doesn't mean we love each other any less, we've just never been the sort to pop round for tea and a natter.

She keeps getting maungy with me when I tell her to drop it, but I'm really struggling to articulate just precisely why this is none of her business and she needs to stop bringing it up.
>> No. 25648 Anonymous
16th September 2017
Saturday 3:52 pm
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That can be difficult - I also don't have a very close family and we don't really get together as often as some others. People who have "close" families find it weird, but its wrong for her to try and impose it on you. If you don't get on, you don't get on, visiting more often is unlikely to change anything (and going by my family, can often make things worse).
>> No. 25649 Anonymous
16th September 2017
Saturday 4:11 pm
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She wants to have sex with the milkman.
>> No. 25650 Anonymous
16th September 2017
Saturday 4:28 pm
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I wish the milkman would deliver my milk in the morning.
>> No. 25651 Anonymous
16th September 2017
Saturday 5:17 pm
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That is so alien to me. But I consider my parents abusive toxic pricks, and every one of my peers who has met them has agreed, so I might be an exception, but it really pisses me off when someone naively and obnoxiously insists people should have a close relationship with, and respect their parents as a result.
>> No. 25652 Anonymous
16th September 2017
Saturday 10:51 pm
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It's a very common and completely socially acceptable prejudice. When my violent, abusive and shamelessly unrepentant biological father was dying suddenly everyone I had ever met sprung up out of the woodwork to condescend to me about how I should just get over everything that happened to me when I was a kid.

I could handle the "it was different in my day" elderly relatives who seem to have been under the impression that choking and cigarette burns were an ordinary part of discipline back in the late 80s. Easy to dismiss as the cunts they were. Much tougher to deal with were friends who pretended to see things from my point of view or at least respect my decision but actually didn't and were more than willing to play both sides.

8 years later. No regrets. In fact I hope he suffered.
>> No. 25661 Anonymous
18th September 2017
Monday 6:20 pm
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She's the only thing that's made me happy all year but I'm too miserable to send her a text.
>> No. 25662 Anonymous
18th September 2017
Monday 8:00 pm
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im still in that job, surprised i havent offed myself
>> No. 25670 Anonymous
19th September 2017
Tuesday 8:06 pm
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You need a purpose mate. I found mine. I took days off work to find the flattest pebble ever. I haven't even come close and I checked out all of the south east.

After I find it, I will blow my savings on prozzies and drugs, and leave that pebble to my brother.
>> No. 25675 Anonymous
22nd September 2017
Friday 2:18 am
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Not if I shall have anything to do with it! The flattest pebble will be mine. I need it for my own collection of items men covet. And I shall resort to any means and spare no expense to acquire it. Good hunting but your venture is foolish.

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