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>> No. 3936 Anonymous
27th October 2016
Thursday 1:45 pm
3936 Fat bastard weight loss thread
Get in here fatlads.

I've made an effort to properly lose weight but have stalled in the last 2 months - and it's starting to creep up. I used to lift weights 3x/week and control the diet, but I can't lift for a while until some medical stuff gets sorted. This has taken a bit of a hit on my progress - or more likely,ive used it an excuse to slack.

What's your story?

P.s. I track calories and weight using my fitness pal.
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>> No. 4181 Anonymous
10th February 2017
Friday 9:18 am
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I don't drink beer at all, I can't stand the taste. I prefer a decent cider (as in a proper one).

If you have never drunk before and want to try it, I'd recommend some wine that isn't all that cheap to start with, since it's actually a nice experience and you can't taste any alcohol. My personal recommendation would be Viña Tondonia Reserva (It's a Rioja, red). It's ~£20 a bottle but worth it I'd say.

The other option, of course, is to get that cheap 'fruit cider' shite, which has never seen cider in its life, but it's like really sweet fizzy pop.
>> No. 4182 Anonymous
10th February 2017
Friday 10:04 am
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What planet are you from?
>> No. 4183 Anonymous
10th February 2017
Friday 10:34 am
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Your mother.
>> No. 4341 Anonymous
2nd October 2017
Monday 12:57 am
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I'm doing a fairly intense burn at the moment to try lose weight, I have bastardised the diet plan in >>3974 mostly, but I am significantly lighter. I am a bloke 168cm and weigh 70kg and 20% body fat bmi 25, my goal is about 63-65kg and down to the low teens in body fat (maybe 13%) I want to be light for rock climbing, I used to do it a bit and I don't think I could go back to it feeling like I was too fat to hold myself comfortably upside down.

My diet consists of 2 sweet potatoes a day and free feeding myself a chilli that is largely beef rib I batch cooked. But Monday I am switching to largely pure beef mince (probably 500g per day).

My current exercise is 2 30 min Elliptical sessions a day everyday with occasional chin ups.

My question is thus; Do I need a protein shake? If I do what sort of protein shake? Can I get smaller sample packets from somewhere instead of tubs to try first? The last time I was using powder I had the norovirus and my brain made the association and I gagged every time I tried to go back to it, that was a few years ago, but I'd like to make sure that doesn't happen before I blow £30 on a tub.
>> No. 4342 Anonymous
2nd October 2017
Monday 1:21 am
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You're getting more than enough protein from the beef.
>> No. 4343 Anonymous
2nd October 2017
Monday 3:36 am
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Please don't eat red meat every day. It'll slowly do a number on your digestive system.
>> No. 4344 Anonymous
2nd October 2017
Monday 11:27 am
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>Please don't eat red meat every day. It'll slowly do a number on your digestive system.

Well I've been doing it pretty much every day for the last 30 years without issue so I think I'll take my chances hippy lad. I'll accept there is a suggested correlation with heart disease risk, but practically every study into the negative effects of red meat seems to be by a vegetarian/ vegan who is either willingly or unintentionally compromises their data that is contradicted by a later study with a larger sample without a bag of spuds.

Talking about which foods are healthy and unhealthy seems the equivalent of soothsaying at this point in history with every study contradicting every other study and you end up just cherry-picking the studies that agree with what you were going to do anyway.

As long as something isn't demonstrably poison I'll take my chances.
>> No. 4345 Anonymous
2nd October 2017
Monday 11:29 am
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>bag of spuds

What a weird word filter.
>> No. 4346 Anonymous
3rd October 2017
Tuesday 9:21 pm
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The Withings (now Nokia?) was a bit rich for my blood.

I spent £30 on a Xiaomi Mi Scale 2 and I'm super pleased with it. Does pretty much everything the Withings does but for a third the cost.

The app is a bit shit, but it syncs nicely with Apple Health so it's no big deal.

Xiaomi also make a wristband fitness tracker that's £25 and does steps, heartbeat, notifications, all that shit. Highly recommended too!
>> No. 4347 Anonymous
3rd October 2017
Tuesday 9:23 pm
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> You can always just say you're proudly sporting a dad bod... that's kind of fashionable at the moment...
Works until the cholesterol and obesity catch up with me and give me a crippling heart-attack in 25 years time.
>> No. 4348 Anonymous
3rd October 2017
Tuesday 9:28 pm
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This is me. What a fat cunt I've become.
6'1", 33, weighed 10st ±1st for nearly 20 years until I lost my job as I was turning 30. Beef has piled on since then.

Target is ~11½st (160lb-ish). I've got a fuck load of work to do.
>> No. 4349 Anonymous
4th October 2017
Wednesday 11:32 am
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first time seeing this thread so I'm just going to make a general post about it.

I have been struggling with my weight for a long time now and I had achieved some goal by going to slimming world for a year. I got down from 20st to 16st. I hadn't felt so good for a long time and I could fit into 36" trousers, coming from 44" is astounding. But, as things are to do, I left my current job to another and consequently suffered from stress for the first time. Now I only realize this looking back, if I had realized then I might have done something about it. but in the end, they sacked me. And I was happy about it. They were all looking at me to be kicking off about it but I just started laughing. that confused them, I'm getting off point. during the 5 months of my tenure, I put on 4 stone and gone back up to 20 and I haven't been able to shift it. I've tried the gym but couldn't keep up with it. I think I'm depressed, I just can't keep up with anything. I have seen the doctor and been prescribed antidepressants but have decided not to take them as the side effects are pretty horrendous. so I've left it at that. I think maybe the depression is from my weight and the near constant pain in my back, neck and legs. All weight related. I've also considered intermittent fasting, that's supposed to work for some people. I just haven't found something for me. I just need to stop being so lazy, I just don't know how.
>> No. 4350 Anonymous
4th October 2017
Wednesday 8:50 pm
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Oh lad. Talk to us some more.
>> No. 4352 Anonymous
5th October 2017
Thursday 4:15 pm
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>>4350 I'm full of stories of hapless fuckwittery. Me to start with and then my apprentices and then the stupid customers. Engineering it's a strange thing.
>> No. 4353 Anonymous
6th October 2017
Friday 9:37 pm
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This diet is working shockingly fast and well. I'm concerned I'm shedding muscle mass because I'm coming down absurdly quickly. A fair bit more than a kg a week, any suggestions to make sure the weight is coming off the right places? My work out performance is lower than before but that's probably the lack of glucose.
>> No. 4354 Anonymous
6th October 2017
Friday 10:23 pm
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>any suggestions to make sure the weight is coming off the right places?
If you're asking if there is a way to control the area of your body from which you are losing fat, no that's impossible.
>> No. 4355 Anonymous
6th October 2017
Friday 11:18 pm
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No I mean to make sure I'm losing fat not muscle.
>> No. 4356 Anonymous
7th October 2017
Saturday 10:56 am
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A kilo of fat is about 3500kcals, so it's feasible to lose a kilo a week if you're working at it. If you want to check that you're not losing muscle, you'll need calipers or an electronic body fat analyser.
>> No. 4357 Anonymous
7th October 2017
Saturday 11:09 am
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You seem to be confusing the calorie count of a kilo with that of a pound. A Kilo of fat is about 7700 Kcal. I'm not really asking how do I measure where the weight is coming off from, I'm more asking if there is a method to prevent Muscle loss while lossing fat?
>> No. 4358 Anonymous
7th October 2017
Saturday 12:08 pm
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Isn't that what working out is for? You keep at it with excercise to ensure you build muscle at the same time as your diet sheds the fat?
>> No. 4359 Anonymous
8th October 2017
Sunday 12:35 pm
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I put on weight, 6 foot and 14 stone up to 17 due to prescription opiates and it made my pain worse so I had to take them more regularly. I stopped taking them on Friday after cutting it back in stages and the diarrhoea has been horrific and I've lost weight already, which is good but weight loss wont solve all my problems.

I think my pain was originally due to lack of fitness, so I need to crawl my way back while Jonesing for hill-billy heroin and in a not inconsiderable amount of agony and I honestly have no idea where to start.
>> No. 4360 Anonymous
9th October 2017
Monday 4:09 pm
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Why do my legs hurt the day after running? Is it that I didn't warm up properly? Or didn't stretch afterwards?
>> No. 4361 Anonymous
9th October 2017
Monday 4:12 pm
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>> No. 4362 Anonymous
11th October 2017
Wednesday 9:53 am
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So it seems I can reduce the DOMs by drinking some powerade afterwards. I'll try that.
>> No. 4363 Anonymous
11th October 2017
Wednesday 2:52 pm
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The original recipe of Gatorade is apparently the best stuff ever for recovery, unfortunately Pepsi own the copyright and use the name to produce sugary shit that is less useful but more popular taste with the masses. I don't have a problem with consumer choice, corporations, and copyright/trademark law apart from that they are directly stifling a virtuous product.
>> No. 4364 Anonymous
11th October 2017
Wednesday 4:59 pm
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40kg snatch has been achieved and smashed out the fuckin' park as of this morning so let's fuckin ave ya you caaaaaaants
>> No. 4492 Anonymous
22nd April 2018
Sunday 12:35 pm
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I can't stop eating, lads

I lost 35kg, and it's all coming back

I'll fight it a little but then

I eat when I'm not hungry
and I know I'm not hungry

but I eat anyway
>> No. 4493 Anonymous
22nd April 2018
Sunday 1:23 pm
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I started a keto diet 30 days ago and I've gone from 94kg to 88kg since then, and that's with about 6 cheat days where travel persuaded me to have beer and carby food. I combined it with cutting back a bit on the heavy drinking and started doing some modest exercise again (just some benchpressing and pullups/chinups), but when I've tried those things in the past without keto I didn't lose anywhere near as much weight, so this ketogenic dieting thing seems to be legit.
>> No. 4494 Anonymous
23rd April 2018
Monday 12:24 pm
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Insofar as it helps you lose weight, yes. It doesn't help you keep it off when you hit your goal wieght and get lazy, though.

How it works is by inducing ketogenesis, by exhausting your carb reserves, your body starts to devour itself. You can achieve this by fasting too, which has better long term results. "Keto" is just a rebranded atkins diet.
>> No. 4495 Anonymous
23rd April 2018
Monday 12:53 pm
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The crucial difference with keto is it's far simpler, without the 'phases' of different carb intakes Atkins has. You just eat under 50g ish of carbs a day and hope for the best. It definitely works, and I think people get very evangelical about it because you never really feel like you're on a diet, such is the satiating nature of a high fat and protein diet. I think a lot of people on it tend to just stay on it. I bet you go mental if you start eating carbs again after a dramatic stretch on abstinence.

I sort of accidentally have a keto diet as I don't like starchy food, or bread, or sweet stuff. I feel fine. I also have non-deliberately been doing 16/8 intermittent fasting for years because of work, so I have no useful data.
>> No. 4523 Anonymous
10th June 2018
Sunday 6:40 pm
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I've been using an app recently for core training. Which seems pretty great as an exercise program the thing that bothers me is that it regularly says I've burned 500+ calories in 15- 20 minutes of exercise. This seems far too high to me. Is this remotely accurate? My muscles ache like crazy after but I don't see how this is possible. I'm 5'6 and about 145- 150 pounds (high end of healthy bmi) if that helps people assess if this is accurate.
>> No. 4524 Anonymous
10th June 2018
Sunday 7:24 pm
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>Is this remotely accurate?

Typically, no, not in the slightest. Even my garmin system which measures my heart rate, knows my VO2 max and my HR zones and all that, and it still thinks I burn 400 calories on a 15 minute walk to the shops.

I still use calories burned as a relative measure of my own personal effort from day to day, but I don't pay attention to the actual numbers it throws out.
>> No. 4525 Anonymous
10th June 2018
Sunday 7:35 pm
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The thing that confuses me is what would the gain be in reporting such inaccurate numbers? Is this like vanity sizing and people like exercise programs that tell them they burned more even if it isn't true.
>> No. 4526 Anonymous
10th June 2018
Sunday 7:44 pm
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For something like an exercise routine, I could see the logic in making out that their routine burns so many calories, yeah.

But it seems that Garmins and Fitbits and gym machines seem to all estimate on the high end too, which doesn't really make much sense, unless it's also just to make people feel better. I just try not to worry about it. I'd love to actually know for real how many calories I burn, but it's not exactly easy to measure even in a proper lab, so I just don't really worry about it.
>> No. 4527 Anonymous
10th June 2018
Sunday 11:08 pm
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I has to be including your BMR in that 400 and you have to be a hell of a fat cunt, or it's broken.
>> No. 4528 Anonymous
11th June 2018
Monday 2:30 am
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I'm not fat (anymore) at all, and it's as consistent as every other method I've used. I think it's because I have a higher heart rate than most.
>> No. 4529 Anonymous
11th June 2018
Monday 5:13 pm
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Unless you're failing finger sized rails of gak before popping to the shops (don't worry we've all been there) there's no way your heart rate should be that high. I'm 110kg, I know the treadmill I use takes my weight and BMR over exercise time into account when calculating its calorie total and yet it takes me me almost an hour of walking at 4.5 KM/H at a 4% incline to burn close to that number of calories.
>> No. 4530 Anonymous
12th June 2018
Tuesday 3:50 am
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It's cos my resting heart rate is about 90.
>> No. 4531 Anonymous
12th June 2018
Tuesday 4:49 am
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Mate is that a RHR taken when you're sitting in bed after waking up after a good night's kip or a "RHR" taken at fuck knows when after a day of caffeine, commuting, steak fucking bakes and god knows what else?

No one should be waking up with a RHR of 90 unless you're really making waves as a next generation pharmacological power user / using K Cider as your bedtime tipple or have some kind of serious heart issue. (Obviously I fucking hope it's not the second one as you haven't mentioned anything of that kind but Jesus lad, if your RHR is 90 standing up and going to the fridge is basically sending you into tachycardia. Go see a fucking doctor, sharpish).
>> No. 4534 Anonymous
12th June 2018
Tuesday 4:59 am
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It's from actual rest.

>Go see a fucking doctor

I've seen plenty of doctors. It's fine, apparently. It's definitely about 90. Blood pressure is great, too. Post surgery a few years ago I was sat at 125 while lying in bed, and also on morphine. (no, really) They were checking my vitals every hour or so and did a couple of EKGs and nobody was particularly concerned. I was pretty fucking concerned, to be honest, but I was told it was high but not unusual, especially considering my normal RHR was already high.

I haven't done drugs in about six years and I don't drink, or have anxiety or a bad heart or anything. I'm 'healthy but a bit odd' according to medical professionals.
>> No. 4535 Anonymous
12th June 2018
Tuesday 5:29 am
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Well if you've done echos and EKGs and a treadmill stress test and nothing worrying came up who's a random prick on the internets to say otherwise? Cholesterol and blood pressure being good is good news, maybe get your triglycerides and most importantly your homocysteine levels checked (just badger your gp until they sign the damn bloodwork papers).

If those all check out then I guess your ticker just likes to tick a little bit faster than normal.

Apologetic regards, concerned fellow shed enthusiast and amateur PhD in pseudo-drugs from the university of I read it on the internet.
>> No. 4689 Anonymous
26th October 2018
Friday 7:22 pm
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I've been back to eating refined carbs for a few weeks after losing 15kg on four months of keto and it's staggering how hungry I feel all the time now.

I'm going go to back to keto and investigate a cyclic keto diet so I can binge drink on the weekends. I never really missed carby food when I was on the diet but I did miss beer, so maybe I can have my cake and eat it too.
>> No. 4751 Anonymous
8th February 2019
Friday 4:31 pm
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Just seen a photo of me from last night. As the GenZ yute would say, "big oof".

It's easy to justify that you're not that big, but photos don't lie.

MyFitnessPal, here we go.
>> No. 4752 Anonymous
8th February 2019
Friday 4:37 pm
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Intermittent fasting is working pretty well for me at the moment. If you can do all your eating in an ~8 hour window from say midday to 8pm then you should just start shedding weight gradually. You will be pretty hungry in the mornings, but the upside is you don't really need to watch what you are eating.
>> No. 4753 Anonymous
8th February 2019
Friday 4:50 pm
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That's my general way of eating - I usually overdo it when I do eat.

I lost 40kg before, and by the looks of it I've put most of it back on. Annoying but I've been eating like a fucking pig so what can I expect?
>> No. 4755 Anonymous
9th February 2019
Saturday 10:32 am
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> MyFitnessPal

If you stick religiously to it (ie really recording what you eat and drink) for a couple of weeks, it becomes easily habit forming and works well. It's worth paying for..

I think most people do that - again I found MyFitnessPal useful when I actually weighed some of the portions and found out how many calories I was eating, rather than the "average" sized portions you read about.
>> No. 4756 Anonymous
9th February 2019
Saturday 10:50 am
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That's been my issue for about 3 years. When I was losing the weight the first time, I was sticking to it absolutely religiously. Then, I stopped, and getting back into it is brutally hard, especially as I don't have anything in my life resembling routine.
>> No. 4757 Anonymous
9th February 2019
Saturday 11:21 am
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I too have no real routine, the best thing I've found for sticking to a healthy diet is just basically any amount of exercise. Even 20 minutes of jogging or cycling or even walking every couple of days and I stay in that 'fitness' mindset and I'm far, far less likely to forget my MFP logging or want to eat an entire cake etc.
>> No. 4758 Anonymous
9th February 2019
Saturday 1:46 pm
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Does anyone here have any experience with weight loss surgery?
>> No. 4759 Anonymous
9th February 2019
Saturday 3:13 pm
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I've cut it out entirely, mate, and the pounds are falling away.

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