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|>>|| No. 3936
Get in here fatlads.
I've made an effort to properly lose weight but have stalled in the last 2 months - and it's starting to creep up. I used to lift weights 3x/week and control the diet, but I can't lift for a while until some medical stuff gets sorted. This has taken a bit of a hit on my progress - or more likely,ive used it an excuse to slack.
What's your story?
P.s. I track calories and weight using my fitness pal.
|>>|| No. 4131
> As for the bodybuilder lads, their lack of hair is probably more to do with higher than average levels of DHT.
Well, it's complex, that. It's not necessarily the DHT (which is also generated from certain steroids) that makes your hair fall out. What counts is an inherited hair follicle sesitivity towards DHT, which is believed to clog up the hair follicle blood supplies. So you've got some men who have quite high natural testosterone levels (among them many politicians and top-level business executives), and who will therefore also produce more DHT, but who still have full hair. Because their hair follicles are more tolerant of DHT.
But natural testosterone levels aside, it is believed that hair follicles simply have varying degrees of tolerance towards DHT deposits, and that what counts is the lifetime accumulation of DHT around those hair follicles, if those hair follicles are sensitive to DHT. Which also explains why the majority of men, although not all of them, don't go bald during their peak testosterone production years (ca. 18-24), but towards their late 20s and early 30s, when their testosterone levels are actually on the decline again.
But the estrogen that is produced by your body fat is also somewhat an antagonist to your testosterone. And estrogen regulates hair density both in men and women, which is one reason why quite a few women complain about thinning hair in their 40s, as their estrogen levels decrease.
|>>|| No. 4137
Absolutely I was just going shorthand. The point is that anyone with male pattern baldness has DHT sensitive hair follicles and that ramping up your T (and therefore DHT) levels on a regular basis will only hasten the process.
Creatine has nothing to do with it you tabloid reading nonce.
|>>|| No. 4139
Yep, if you know that you've got it in your genes that you might go bald at some point in your life, then being a steroid-taking bodybuilder will not help you. Which again corroborates my observation about the pro bodybuilders at my gym all having thin hair, if that.
Luckily, in my family, there's no hereditary baldness on either side. My dad didn't live very long, he died at age 46, but still, he had no signs of baldness at all.
|>>|| No. 4141
He took his own life after decades of latent depression.
Don't feel bad for asking. It is what it is.
|>>|| No. 4142
I'm done lads. I think. I want to be the bloke on page 17 of the Shropshire Star holding up my XXXL shirt like a tent.
I'm 24, nearly 25. Always had a belly but it's accelerated since I went to Uni then returned home to work. I'm probably pushing twenty stone if not more, which is unacceptable for 5'10", even though I am probably about 2'4" wide, shouler bone to shoulder bone. Oddly not much else, my legs are actually quite toned but now I am starting to get a bit of the "bingo wings" kind of crease on my triceps and a double chin when I rest, along with the odd ache in my chest and pressure on my bladder.
Done a really good job of ruining some of the prime years of my life really, had a girlfriend when I was 17/18 and could expect to pull more than twice a year. Never got around to actually having sex with anyone like and I just feel out of the running, all of my mates are male and whilst skinnier, similarily lack female friends.
I feel like I'm in the gap between "normal" chubbier blokes and the almost irredeemable winched-into-ambulance types. Living at home still as well, I had a phase of chicken and vegetables every night whilst using the gym at Uni and actually put on a fair bit of muscle quickly whilst not boring of it, but the way my house is I can't really cook for myself every night and my mum is of the "own worst enemy" types that would think I was trying to be bulemic or something.
|>>|| No. 4143
Go for it lad. Keep us posted. Go walking, then jogging, then running.
I got really into muscle gain for the first time last year and loved it. Now I've got a fucking frozen shoulder due to a fall and miss the exercise.
See if there are any "hashes" in your area, they are worth a shot.
|>>|| No. 4144
Mate, you're pushing twenty stone.
I'm less than two thirds of that and I'm chubby.
|>>|| No. 4145
I don't know how to say this without coming across as smug, but as fucked as my life is financially and socially, staying in shape has always been piss for me. I honestly sometimes wish I could trade a bit of that aptitude for the skills people seem to have in other areas of life.
In all seriousness, I've always wondered whether I could take a /fat/lad and make a project out of him, because fitness might be one of the only things I am more knowledgeable about than your average bloke.
But then that defeats the point in a lot of ways, I suppose. Even athletes can let themselves go when they finally no longer have a coach to shout at them. It's all about bringing those good behaviours out from within the individual, finding a sustainable activity, and all that wank.
That being said, if you need a starting point for practical advice/support, I'm more than happy to give it. I'm talking about actual suggestions on how to fit stuff into your life and not just 'do 5 reps for 5 sets'.
Sage for serious rambling.
|>>|| No. 4147
Are you twentystonelad? Here's a throwaway email if you want to chat shit.
|>>|| No. 4148
No, but I have had to kill my exercise regime due to a frozen shoulder. At least keeping some cardio up would be good.
Anyway, it is probably best to just post advise in this thread, that way it will be shared.
|>>|| No. 4160
4 years ago I got rid of my TV and internet connection then took to country walking maybe 3 or 4 times a week (staff and all, no shit, its awesome). I went from 16 to 13.5 stone, though it probably took the best part of a year. That lasted maybe another year, after which I began eating a bit more and my activity dropped.
I still don't have a TV or internet (currently using a friends), but now I'm 15 stone again, maybe ever so slightly over. I've moved to a less social area so I don't get out as much as I say I'd like to.
S'all good. I'm confident in my ability to lose weight, and my ability to recognise when I should maybe go on a week or two detox.
I find the best way to lose weight is to be realistic yet optimistic. I don't expect quick fixes and try not to pressure myself about it. Its more about lifestyle for me; changing bad habits and keeping myself occupied so I don't eat through boredom. Like eating a whole packet of bacon today (still, I made up for some of it with some minor exercise carrying wooden pallets and planks around town).
I occasionally do the workout pictured. At first I could only do half 1 set (with a 2 day recovery, my body was fucked), then after about 3 attempts at that I managed 2 sets. Now I've got kind of bored of it so I try and do the whole 30 reps in one set (combining some, like the pushups/plank leg raises. Get it over with quickly, you know?), about which I currently get halfway through. I try these workouts irregularly, sometimes with considerable gaps between one and the next, yet I still notice improvement. Honestly, if you only do it once now then again in a week or so, you'll notice it easier the second time. Imagine doing that 4 times a week, eating roast veg and maybe a Chinese at the weekend. You'll lose your shit in no time.
|>>|| No. 4161
Bicyclelad here again.
I've lost eight pounds since I started doing exercise and eating less. My stomach is visibly shrinking, and my upper body muscles appear slightly more toned (I do a fair bit of weight lifting at the gym again now).
One of my coworkers has commented on my improving physical shape... she told me she's happy for me, and that "a dadbod isn't a good look for somebody who isn't even a dad yet".
I am not sure whether to take this as an insult, or just an attempt at wry humour. Wish I could have said something to her like "look who's talking"... unfortunately, she is the fittest person at the office. She's 31 and has the slender body of an 18-year-old. She does jiu jitsu and zumba. And loads of it, from the way she looks. Her husband is a lucky man. and because she's married, all I can do is think about her firm buttocks while spaffing off
|>>|| No. 4172
I hate myself every day for putting on a lot of the weight that I worked so hard to lose, and as I sit here right now I can feel my blubber on this shirt, yet for months I haven't been able to get motivated in the slightest to do anything about it.
I did it for 3 years, and I don't know how. Any tips?
|>>|| No. 4173
I have a memory shed in which I store mental images of things that motivate me. Mostly it's women who won't fuck me while I'm ugly.
|>>|| No. 4175
I'm too autistic to fuck anyone. Nothing motivates me. Much like the current lad in /emo/, nothing is interesting or motivational. I finish my current soul-destroying job in August, thank fuck, but I need something to stop me from drinking every night until then.
|>>|| No. 4178
I never drunk any alcohol. Is it nice? Beer smells like vomit.
|>>|| No. 4179
Beer's basically fine. I only drink it front of other people so they don't think I'm mental (any more so, at least).
|>>|| No. 4180
I've found this. For some reason drinking lots of beer is fine but ordering a pint of vodka crosses some kind of line.
|>>|| No. 4181
I don't drink beer at all, I can't stand the taste. I prefer a decent cider (as in a proper one).
If you have never drunk before and want to try it, I'd recommend some wine that isn't all that cheap to start with, since it's actually a nice experience and you can't taste any alcohol. My personal recommendation would be Viña Tondonia Reserva (It's a Rioja, red). It's ~£20 a bottle but worth it I'd say.
The other option, of course, is to get that cheap 'fruit cider' shite, which has never seen cider in its life, but it's like really sweet fizzy pop.
|>>|| No. 4341
I'm doing a fairly intense burn at the moment to try lose weight, I have bastardised the diet plan in >>3974 mostly, but I am significantly lighter. I am a bloke 168cm and weigh 70kg and 20% body fat bmi 25, my goal is about 63-65kg and down to the low teens in body fat (maybe 13%) I want to be light for rock climbing, I used to do it a bit and I don't think I could go back to it feeling like I was too fat to hold myself comfortably upside down.
My diet consists of 2 sweet potatoes a day and free feeding myself a chilli that is largely beef rib I batch cooked. But Monday I am switching to largely pure beef mince (probably 500g per day).
My current exercise is 2 30 min Elliptical sessions a day everyday with occasional chin ups.
My question is thus; Do I need a protein shake? If I do what sort of protein shake? Can I get smaller sample packets from somewhere instead of tubs to try first? The last time I was using powder I had the norovirus and my brain made the association and I gagged every time I tried to go back to it, that was a few years ago, but I'd like to make sure that doesn't happen before I blow £30 on a tub.
|>>|| No. 4343
Please don't eat red meat every day. It'll slowly do a number on your digestive system.
|>>|| No. 4344
>Please don't eat red meat every day. It'll slowly do a number on your digestive system.
Well I've been doing it pretty much every day for the last 30 years without issue so I think I'll take my chances hippy lad. I'll accept there is a suggested correlation with heart disease risk, but practically every study into the negative effects of red meat seems to be by a vegetarian/ vegan who is either willingly or unintentionally compromises their data that is contradicted by a later study with a larger sample without a bag of spuds.
Talking about which foods are healthy and unhealthy seems the equivalent of soothsaying at this point in history with every study contradicting every other study and you end up just cherry-picking the studies that agree with what you were going to do anyway.
As long as something isn't demonstrably poison I'll take my chances.
|>>|| No. 4347
> You can always just say you're proudly sporting a dad bod... that's kind of fashionable at the moment...
Works until the cholesterol and obesity catch up with me and give me a crippling heart-attack in 25 years time.
|>>|| No. 4348
This is me. What a fat cunt I've become.
6'1", 33, weighed 10st ±1st for nearly 20 years until I lost my job as I was turning 30. Beef has piled on since then.
Target is ~11½st (160lb-ish). I've got a fuck load of work to do.
|>>|| No. 4349
first time seeing this thread so I'm just going to make a general post about it.
I have been struggling with my weight for a long time now and I had achieved some goal by going to slimming world for a year. I got down from 20st to 16st. I hadn't felt so good for a long time and I could fit into 36" trousers, coming from 44" is astounding. But, as things are to do, I left my current job to another and consequently suffered from stress for the first time. Now I only realize this looking back, if I had realized then I might have done something about it. but in the end, they sacked me. And I was happy about it. They were all looking at me to be kicking off about it but I just started laughing. that confused them, I'm getting off point. during the 5 months of my tenure, I put on 4 stone and gone back up to 20 and I haven't been able to shift it. I've tried the gym but couldn't keep up with it. I think I'm depressed, I just can't keep up with anything. I have seen the doctor and been prescribed antidepressants but have decided not to take them as the side effects are pretty horrendous. so I've left it at that. I think maybe the depression is from my weight and the near constant pain in my back, neck and legs. All weight related. I've also considered intermittent fasting, that's supposed to work for some people. I just haven't found something for me. I just need to stop being so lazy, I just don't know how.
|>>|| No. 4352
>>4350 I'm full of stories of hapless fuckwittery. Me to start with and then my apprentices and then the stupid customers. Engineering it's a strange thing.
|>>|| No. 4353
This diet is working shockingly fast and well. I'm concerned I'm shedding muscle mass because I'm coming down absurdly quickly. A fair bit more than a kg a week, any suggestions to make sure the weight is coming off the right places? My work out performance is lower than before but that's probably the lack of glucose.
|>>|| No. 4354
>any suggestions to make sure the weight is coming off the right places?
If you're asking if there is a way to control the area of your body from which you are losing fat, no that's impossible.
|>>|| No. 4356
A kilo of fat is about 3500kcals, so it's feasible to lose a kilo a week if you're working at it. If you want to check that you're not losing muscle, you'll need calipers or an electronic body fat analyser.
|>>|| No. 4357
You seem to be confusing the calorie count of a kilo with that of a pound. A Kilo of fat is about 7700 Kcal. I'm not really asking how do I measure where the weight is coming off from, I'm more asking if there is a method to prevent Muscle loss while lossing fat?
|>>|| No. 4358
Isn't that what working out is for? You keep at it with excercise to ensure you build muscle at the same time as your diet sheds the fat?
|>>|| No. 4359
I put on weight, 6 foot and 14 stone up to 17 due to prescription opiates and it made my pain worse so I had to take them more regularly. I stopped taking them on Friday after cutting it back in stages and the diarrhoea has been horrific and I've lost weight already, which is good but weight loss wont solve all my problems.
I think my pain was originally due to lack of fitness, so I need to crawl my way back while Jonesing for hill-billy heroin and in a not inconsiderable amount of agony and I honestly have no idea where to start.
|>>|| No. 4360
Why do my legs hurt the day after running? Is it that I didn't warm up properly? Or didn't stretch afterwards?
|>>|| No. 4362
So it seems I can reduce the DOMs by drinking some powerade afterwards. I'll try that.
|>>|| No. 4363
The original recipe of Gatorade is apparently the best stuff ever for recovery, unfortunately Pepsi own the copyright and use the name to produce sugary shit that is less useful but more popular taste with the masses. I don't have a problem with consumer choice, corporations, and copyright/trademark law apart from that they are directly stifling a virtuous product.
|>>|| No. 4364
40kg snatch has been achieved and smashed out the fuckin' park as of this morning so let's fuckin ave ya you caaaaaaants
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