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>> No. 3936 Anonymous
27th October 2016
Thursday 1:45 pm
3936 Fat bastard weight loss thread
Get in here fatlads.

I've made an effort to properly lose weight but have stalled in the last 2 months - and it's starting to creep up. I used to lift weights 3x/week and control the diet, but I can't lift for a while until some medical stuff gets sorted. This has taken a bit of a hit on my progress - or more likely,ive used it an excuse to slack.

What's your story?

P.s. I track calories and weight using my fitness pal.
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>> No. 4528 Anonymous
11th June 2018
Monday 2:30 am
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I'm not fat (anymore) at all, and it's as consistent as every other method I've used. I think it's because I have a higher heart rate than most.
>> No. 4529 Anonymous
11th June 2018
Monday 5:13 pm
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Unless you're failing finger sized rails of gak before popping to the shops (don't worry we've all been there) there's no way your heart rate should be that high. I'm 110kg, I know the treadmill I use takes my weight and BMR over exercise time into account when calculating its calorie total and yet it takes me me almost an hour of walking at 4.5 KM/H at a 4% incline to burn close to that number of calories.
>> No. 4530 Anonymous
12th June 2018
Tuesday 3:50 am
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It's cos my resting heart rate is about 90.
>> No. 4531 Anonymous
12th June 2018
Tuesday 4:49 am
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Mate is that a RHR taken when you're sitting in bed after waking up after a good night's kip or a "RHR" taken at fuck knows when after a day of caffeine, commuting, steak fucking bakes and god knows what else?

No one should be waking up with a RHR of 90 unless you're really making waves as a next generation pharmacological power user / using K Cider as your bedtime tipple or have some kind of serious heart issue. (Obviously I fucking hope it's not the second one as you haven't mentioned anything of that kind but Jesus lad, if your RHR is 90 standing up and going to the fridge is basically sending you into tachycardia. Go see a fucking doctor, sharpish).
>> No. 4534 Anonymous
12th June 2018
Tuesday 4:59 am
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It's from actual rest.

>Go see a fucking doctor

I've seen plenty of doctors. It's fine, apparently. It's definitely about 90. Blood pressure is great, too. Post surgery a few years ago I was sat at 125 while lying in bed, and also on morphine. (no, really) They were checking my vitals every hour or so and did a couple of EKGs and nobody was particularly concerned. I was pretty fucking concerned, to be honest, but I was told it was high but not unusual, especially considering my normal RHR was already high.

I haven't done drugs in about six years and I don't drink, or have anxiety or a bad heart or anything. I'm 'healthy but a bit odd' according to medical professionals.
>> No. 4535 Anonymous
12th June 2018
Tuesday 5:29 am
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Well if you've done echos and EKGs and a treadmill stress test and nothing worrying came up who's a random prick on the internets to say otherwise? Cholesterol and blood pressure being good is good news, maybe get your triglycerides and most importantly your homocysteine levels checked (just badger your gp until they sign the damn bloodwork papers).

If those all check out then I guess your ticker just likes to tick a little bit faster than normal.

Apologetic regards, concerned fellow shed enthusiast and amateur PhD in pseudo-drugs from the university of I read it on the internet.
>> No. 4689 Anonymous
26th October 2018
Friday 7:22 pm
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I've been back to eating refined carbs for a few weeks after losing 15kg on four months of keto and it's staggering how hungry I feel all the time now.

I'm going go to back to keto and investigate a cyclic keto diet so I can binge drink on the weekends. I never really missed carby food when I was on the diet but I did miss beer, so maybe I can have my cake and eat it too.
>> No. 4751 Anonymous
8th February 2019
Friday 4:31 pm
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Just seen a photo of me from last night. As the GenZ yute would say, "big oof".

It's easy to justify that you're not that big, but photos don't lie.

MyFitnessPal, here we go.
>> No. 4752 Anonymous
8th February 2019
Friday 4:37 pm
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Intermittent fasting is working pretty well for me at the moment. If you can do all your eating in an ~8 hour window from say midday to 8pm then you should just start shedding weight gradually. You will be pretty hungry in the mornings, but the upside is you don't really need to watch what you are eating.
>> No. 4753 Anonymous
8th February 2019
Friday 4:50 pm
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That's my general way of eating - I usually overdo it when I do eat.

I lost 40kg before, and by the looks of it I've put most of it back on. Annoying but I've been eating like a fucking pig so what can I expect?
>> No. 4755 Anonymous
9th February 2019
Saturday 10:32 am
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> MyFitnessPal

If you stick religiously to it (ie really recording what you eat and drink) for a couple of weeks, it becomes easily habit forming and works well. It's worth paying for..

I think most people do that - again I found MyFitnessPal useful when I actually weighed some of the portions and found out how many calories I was eating, rather than the "average" sized portions you read about.
>> No. 4756 Anonymous
9th February 2019
Saturday 10:50 am
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That's been my issue for about 3 years. When I was losing the weight the first time, I was sticking to it absolutely religiously. Then, I stopped, and getting back into it is brutally hard, especially as I don't have anything in my life resembling routine.
>> No. 4757 Anonymous
9th February 2019
Saturday 11:21 am
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I too have no real routine, the best thing I've found for sticking to a healthy diet is just basically any amount of exercise. Even 20 minutes of jogging or cycling or even walking every couple of days and I stay in that 'fitness' mindset and I'm far, far less likely to forget my MFP logging or want to eat an entire cake etc.
>> No. 4758 Anonymous
9th February 2019
Saturday 1:46 pm
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Does anyone here have any experience with weight loss surgery?
>> No. 4759 Anonymous
9th February 2019
Saturday 3:13 pm
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I've cut it out entirely, mate, and the pounds are falling away.
>> No. 4760 Anonymous
21st February 2019
Thursday 9:07 pm
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MFP that good? I've thought about it but my laziness gets in the way.
>> No. 4761 Anonymous
21st February 2019
Thursday 9:50 pm
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I think it's really good - worth the 30 quid. I learned a lot about how many actual calories are in the meals I eat and once you get past the first couple of days and have figured out how to record what you eat, it's very easy to use.
>> No. 4762 Anonymous
20th March 2019
Wednesday 8:53 pm
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Lads I need some advice.

Last year was pretty bad, all sorts of shit happened which left me with no motivation and Saturdays were just spent drinking quite a lot into the early hours, mainly through boredom but also habit, though non addictive. I gave up exercise which I enjoyed and wallowed in my slovenly ways.
Anyhow, this led to weight gain which turned into a vicious cycle of not giving a fuck and settling into the life of a fatlad, accepting being in my mid 40's that the extra pounds is just a part of what happens. Nothing drastic, probably 2/3 stone over my ideal healthy weight from about 3 years ago but still out of shape.
At the end of this year I realised I had to change what I was doing - taking the lazy easy path which leads to nihilisim and despair. I saw Tyson Fury come back after being a right fat bastard and thought if he can do it, so can I. The choice that can be made - take the easy route and get blackout drunk every weekend and try to forget, or take the hard route and become or do something good.
I've stopped drinking since January, not because I'm an alcoholic, just that I was drinking too much and getting fat due to the extra calories, all the shit you eat alongside this, fryups to kill hangovers, pizzas as too drunk to cook etc. I'm back into healthy eating, high protein foods, no junk food, fruit, veg (I've had chocolate about 3 times this year) etc. The thing is that I've been putting a lot of effort in but I can't seem to see that I'm losing much weight over the past 3 months.
Exercise wise I've calculated that I am burning around 7000 calories a week. This is based on cycling 70 miles and gym sessions. Roughly 1000 calories lost per day through the cycling / gym session and 2000 calories lost per week through not drinking or eating shit. Gym session is usually 20 mins on a cross trainer at 130/140 bpm at high resistance and 20 minutes of weights set at 10 x 3 reps per muscle group. I'd say this would lose 2lbs per week.
The thing is would have expected at the very least to have lost around 1 to 1.5 stone by now but I just don't feel like the weight is coming off as I would have expected. I'm getting more defined and toned from the weights but the beergut is a total bastard to remove. I'm looking forward to a beer or 2 by Easter but my goal is to shed the flab before I can take my reward and learn from the hard work it took to get to there. I'll get there eventually but at this point I feel it's going to take forever before I can wear a fitted shirt again.
>> No. 4763 Anonymous
20th March 2019
Wednesday 10:27 pm
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Don't look at weight lost or gained or BMI. Look at your body fat percentage. When you start exercising and dieting, you will quickly get noticeable gains. As your body adjusts it becomes the new normal, so you nee to start increasing the weights on your reps or increasing the reps, if you're not looking to get hench.

Don't forget that a cubic inch of muscle weighs more than a cubic inch of fat. Also you'll get weight fluctuations through how much fluid you've intaken and also how much salt is in your diet will effect you're fluid retention. Don't look at the scales look at the mirror, if you're losing weight, your trousers are getting looser and youre feeling better keep on doing it.
>> No. 4764 Anonymous
20th March 2019
Wednesday 11:09 pm
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Buy the Garmin/Withings scales - they're not too expensive, work with wifi and the app is really good. As >>4763 says, you should try and track body fat/muscle/water percentage, every day at the same time (I do first thing in the morning before the shower) - if you're into it, as you seem to be, you'll benefit greatly from the feedback.
>> No. 4765 Anonymous
20th March 2019
Wednesday 11:52 pm
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Those scales look really good, I have been on a keto diet for the past 18 months. Along with improving my diet, I have been hitting the gym 3-4 days a week. I have only dropped about 4 stone, but gone from a 40 inch waist to a 34 waist. I have some "smart" scales, but they are a bit irregular. They say that my body fat percentage has gone up after going for a piss, so I will have to invest in some better ones.
>> No. 4767 Anonymous
21st March 2019
Thursday 12:55 am
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>They say that my body fat percentage has gone up after going for a piss, so I will have to invest in some better ones.

All of them are based on the same technology, which is just putting a current though you and measuring your resistance. I wouldn't expect fancier ones to be that much more accurate, as being more or less dehydrated will always effect that.
>> No. 4768 Anonymous
21st March 2019
Thursday 8:00 am
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I know the technology will be the same, but he software and hardware is going to be better. That just means better, more accurate results. Plus the addition of a tracking app where I won't have to have to manually input everything is a bonus.
>> No. 4770 Anonymous
21st March 2019
Thursday 4:12 pm
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The app makes it worth the money, for sure, regardless of whether the accuracy is better or not. I still don't think they'll be any better, for the same reason almost nobody needs to spend more than twenty quid on a multimeter.

I patiently await your appraisal, though, I'd be happy to be wrong, as I quite fancy a set of the Garmin ones.
>> No. 4771 Anonymous
21st March 2019
Thursday 5:01 pm
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It's payday tomorrow, so I'm going to order this one. https://www.amazon.co.uk/Withings-Nokia-Body-Wi-Fi-Scale/dp/B0728K4371/ref=olp_product_details?_encoding=UTF8&me=
>> No. 4772 Anonymous
21st March 2019
Thursday 5:25 pm
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Those ones don't do the bodyfat stuff, just in case you didn't notice. They just do weight (and BMI because presumably you just tell it how tall you are)
>> No. 4773 Anonymous
21st March 2019
Thursday 6:24 pm
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That'll be why it was 30 quid cheaper than the next ones up. The ones I have only cost me about 25 notes, but as I said it seems to rather inaccurate.
>> No. 4774 Anonymous
21st March 2019
Thursday 7:49 pm
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That's exactly the one I have (actually I have two, an older one too) - it's really good.
>> No. 4775 Anonymous
21st April 2019
Sunday 2:17 pm
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I'm back up to my starting weight.

40 fucking kilos, 20 of which I've put on since October.

I'm such a miserable fucking useless cunt.
>> No. 4776 Anonymous
21st April 2019
Sunday 2:52 pm
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Christmas, shortage of daylight and cold weather does that lad.
Don't give up.
>> No. 4777 Anonymous
21st April 2019
Sunday 3:25 pm
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Why do we fall, Bruce?

What you've shown is that you can lose that weight, and you know what it takes, both to lose it and to gain it. Use this experience.
>> No. 4778 Anonymous
6th May 2019
Monday 2:43 am
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I'm just consumed (pun intended) by an all-encompassing apathy. I know I'm a disgusting, lumbering hamplanet, but I can't bring myself to do anything about it. It crosses my mind several times a day, and for the past few nights I've gone to sleep just fucking hating what I've become. Still, I eat. I just don't have the willpower to track calories or take the hour-long round trip to the nearest gym.

For months now I've said "well I'll be able to REALLY get on it after $milestone", but I never do.

I hate that none of my clothes fit any more, but apparently I don't hate it enough.

Once a fat fuck, always a fat fuck I guess.
>> No. 4779 Anonymous
6th May 2019
Monday 2:54 am
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>>4778 cont'd

I know this is veering into /emo/ territory here but I suppose the first go round, I lost all that weight because I thought it would solve my problems, or at least help. When I got there, 2kg from my target weight, I found that it didn't.

Now, I have no motivation. Sure, there are the obvious health benefits, but I simply do not respect myself enough to care. I don't like being a fat fuck but I also don't like being me.
>> No. 4780 Anonymous
6th May 2019
Monday 3:02 am
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You could literally be running about outside in the rain right now like a mad one, if you wanted, and assuming it's also raining round your end of Ossett.

Don't think of being healthy like you're marching the Grande Armee into Russia or switching from analogue to digital. Do it bit-by-bit, make it an ongoing process and not one you can "fail" because unless you're dead you really haven't.
>> No. 4781 Anonymous
6th May 2019
Monday 3:16 am
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Unfortunately, despite the new b&m, I'm not presently there. I'd rather not be running through the streets of suburban Manchester though.

It's not that I don't know how to make lifestyle changes, I just can't seem to stick to them. Even the first time, it never got easier and I never felt like I was anything but a fatty pretending to be healthy -- I was right.

I try and walk 10,000 steps a day, and cycle when I can. I just wish, fucking wish that I could be like a normal person and not have to constantly battle myself to exhaustion to not be a fat piece of shit.
>> No. 4782 Anonymous
6th May 2019
Monday 9:12 am
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It's common to feel how you do. The hard part isn't doing the run, the hard part is doing it regularly and sticking to it.

I've not been following the thread, nor your posts so sorry if the obvious has been stated but if you can just get yourself to do a little, every other day, you can take it from there.
>> No. 4783 Anonymous
6th May 2019
Monday 6:02 pm
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I lost a lot of weight with the keto diet. A smattering of exercise to tone up -- nothing intense -- but absolutely no calorie counting. No carbs is no junk food. Try it for a week.
>> No. 4784 Anonymous
6th May 2019
Monday 6:02 pm
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I lost a lot of weight with the keto diet. A smattering of exercise to tone up -- nothing intense -- but absolutely no calorie counting. No carbs is no junk food. Try it for a week.
>> No. 4785 Anonymous
6th May 2019
Monday 6:05 pm
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Doesn't ketosis take 2 weeks to kick in?
>> No. 4786 Anonymous
6th May 2019
Monday 6:13 pm
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Just looked it up. Two days, apparently. Fair enough, might give it a go.
>> No. 4787 Anonymous
6th May 2019
Monday 6:24 pm
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Two or three days. A lot of people say you'll suffer flu like symptoms for up to two weeks at the start, but personally I never have.
>> No. 4788 Anonymous
6th May 2019
Monday 10:14 pm
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You may not lose weight for the first few weeks, but it's enough to get a taste of what the diet is like.
>> No. 4789 Anonymous
6th May 2019
Monday 10:19 pm
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I don't think I entered ketosis until a month had passed, and I went "cold turkey". I monitored with keto urine sticks. It's a gradual process, but I'd expect longer than 2 weeks for most people.
>> No. 4790 Anonymous
6th May 2019
Monday 10:34 pm
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You don't store a month of carbohydrates in your body, you will be in ketosis within 24 hours realistically, if you don't eat any carbs. Everyone is different but under 20g per day of carbs seems to be the magic number that all but guarantees ketosis. It might take much longer for you body to get 'adapted' to this new process, but as the liver can only store about 100g of glycogen, it does not take very long at all to end up in ketosis. It might well take a few weeks before you 'feel' any different, but biologically you'll burn the last of your excess carbs within a day or two.

For the record those keto urine strips aren't particuarly useful as they don't measure nutritionally correlated ketones, the only way to do this is with a blood ketone meter.
>> No. 4791 Anonymous
31st May 2019
Friday 3:34 am
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Why can't I fucking stop shoving shit into my fat fucking face? Why can't I be normal?
>> No. 4792 Anonymous
31st May 2019
Friday 9:47 am
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Look around you m8, that is normal. The thin people are the weirdos.
>> No. 4793 Anonymous
31st May 2019
Friday 10:37 am
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If you look at the statistics, you are normal.
>> No. 4794 Anonymous
31st May 2019
Friday 11:45 am
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Normal people don't look at statistics.
>> No. 4795 Anonymous
31st May 2019
Friday 1:15 pm
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Statistically speaking this is questionable.

Did I already do my "dumb cave person" bit in this thread? Regardless, it's because your brain's still the same organ that had people chasing mammoths off cliffs tens of thousands of years ago, so when it sees two pieces of chicken and chips or a pack choc-ices it's beside itself with joy. It's very difficult to overcome those baser instincts, and we have to artificially train ourselves to do certain "unnatural" things and that's hard. Especially, as it sounds like from the tone of your posts,if you're attempting to do these things on your todd by opting for "staring at a wall and being annoyed" instead of eating. Not to mindlessly parley a meme but perhabs joining something like Slimming World might help, as people often learn better in groups and what you're doing is essentially learning not to overeat.

This is a very smug and presumptuous post I'll probably regret later so I'm ending it here, for all our sakes.
>> No. 4796 Anonymous
31st May 2019
Friday 2:07 pm
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Told you before m8, cut the carbs. Blanket rule. Try it for 3 weeks.

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