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|>>|| No. 3936
Get in here fatlads.
I've made an effort to properly lose weight but have stalled in the last 2 months - and it's starting to creep up. I used to lift weights 3x/week and control the diet, but I can't lift for a while until some medical stuff gets sorted. This has taken a bit of a hit on my progress - or more likely,ive used it an excuse to slack.
What's your story?
P.s. I track calories and weight using my fitness pal.
|>>|| No. 4352
>>4350 I'm full of stories of hapless fuckwittery. Me to start with and then my apprentices and then the stupid customers. Engineering it's a strange thing.
|>>|| No. 4353
This diet is working shockingly fast and well. I'm concerned I'm shedding muscle mass because I'm coming down absurdly quickly. A fair bit more than a kg a week, any suggestions to make sure the weight is coming off the right places? My work out performance is lower than before but that's probably the lack of glucose.
|>>|| No. 4354
>any suggestions to make sure the weight is coming off the right places?
If you're asking if there is a way to control the area of your body from which you are losing fat, no that's impossible.
|>>|| No. 4356
A kilo of fat is about 3500kcals, so it's feasible to lose a kilo a week if you're working at it. If you want to check that you're not losing muscle, you'll need calipers or an electronic body fat analyser.
|>>|| No. 4357
You seem to be confusing the calorie count of a kilo with that of a pound. A Kilo of fat is about 7700 Kcal. I'm not really asking how do I measure where the weight is coming off from, I'm more asking if there is a method to prevent Muscle loss while lossing fat?
|>>|| No. 4358
Isn't that what working out is for? You keep at it with excercise to ensure you build muscle at the same time as your diet sheds the fat?
|>>|| No. 4359
I put on weight, 6 foot and 14 stone up to 17 due to prescription opiates and it made my pain worse so I had to take them more regularly. I stopped taking them on Friday after cutting it back in stages and the diarrhoea has been horrific and I've lost weight already, which is good but weight loss wont solve all my problems.
I think my pain was originally due to lack of fitness, so I need to crawl my way back while Jonesing for hill-billy heroin and in a not inconsiderable amount of agony and I honestly have no idea where to start.
|>>|| No. 4360
Why do my legs hurt the day after running? Is it that I didn't warm up properly? Or didn't stretch afterwards?
|>>|| No. 4362
So it seems I can reduce the DOMs by drinking some powerade afterwards. I'll try that.
|>>|| No. 4363
The original recipe of Gatorade is apparently the best stuff ever for recovery, unfortunately Pepsi own the copyright and use the name to produce sugary shit that is less useful but more popular taste with the masses. I don't have a problem with consumer choice, corporations, and copyright/trademark law apart from that they are directly stifling a virtuous product.
|>>|| No. 4364
40kg snatch has been achieved and smashed out the fuckin' park as of this morning so let's fuckin ave ya you caaaaaaants
|>>|| No. 4492
I can't stop eating, lads
I lost 35kg, and it's all coming back
I'll fight it a little but then
I eat when I'm not hungry
and I know I'm not hungry
but I eat anyway
|>>|| No. 4493
I started a keto diet 30 days ago and I've gone from 94kg to 88kg since then, and that's with about 6 cheat days where travel persuaded me to have beer and carby food. I combined it with cutting back a bit on the heavy drinking and started doing some modest exercise again (just some benchpressing and pullups/chinups), but when I've tried those things in the past without keto I didn't lose anywhere near as much weight, so this ketogenic dieting thing seems to be legit.
|>>|| No. 4494
Insofar as it helps you lose weight, yes. It doesn't help you keep it off when you hit your goal wieght and get lazy, though.
How it works is by inducing ketogenesis, by exhausting your carb reserves, your body starts to devour itself. You can achieve this by fasting too, which has better long term results. "Keto" is just a rebranded atkins diet.
|>>|| No. 4495
The crucial difference with keto is it's far simpler, without the 'phases' of different carb intakes Atkins has. You just eat under 50g ish of carbs a day and hope for the best. It definitely works, and I think people get very evangelical about it because you never really feel like you're on a diet, such is the satiating nature of a high fat and protein diet. I think a lot of people on it tend to just stay on it. I bet you go mental if you start eating carbs again after a dramatic stretch on abstinence.
I sort of accidentally have a keto diet as I don't like starchy food, or bread, or sweet stuff. I feel fine. I also have non-deliberately been doing 16/8 intermittent fasting for years because of work, so I have no useful data.
|>>|| No. 4523
I've been using an app recently for core training. Which seems pretty great as an exercise program the thing that bothers me is that it regularly says I've burned 500+ calories in 15- 20 minutes of exercise. This seems far too high to me. Is this remotely accurate? My muscles ache like crazy after but I don't see how this is possible. I'm 5'6 and about 145- 150 pounds (high end of healthy bmi) if that helps people assess if this is accurate.
|>>|| No. 4524
>Is this remotely accurate?
Typically, no, not in the slightest. Even my garmin system which measures my heart rate, knows my VO2 max and my HR zones and all that, and it still thinks I burn 400 calories on a 15 minute walk to the shops.
I still use calories burned as a relative measure of my own personal effort from day to day, but I don't pay attention to the actual numbers it throws out.
|>>|| No. 4525
The thing that confuses me is what would the gain be in reporting such inaccurate numbers? Is this like vanity sizing and people like exercise programs that tell them they burned more even if it isn't true.
|>>|| No. 4526
For something like an exercise routine, I could see the logic in making out that their routine burns so many calories, yeah.
But it seems that Garmins and Fitbits and gym machines seem to all estimate on the high end too, which doesn't really make much sense, unless it's also just to make people feel better. I just try not to worry about it. I'd love to actually know for real how many calories I burn, but it's not exactly easy to measure even in a proper lab, so I just don't really worry about it.
|>>|| No. 4527
I has to be including your BMR in that 400 and you have to be a hell of a fat cunt, or it's broken.
|>>|| No. 4528
I'm not fat (anymore) at all, and it's as consistent as every other method I've used. I think it's because I have a higher heart rate than most.
|>>|| No. 4529
Unless you're failing finger sized rails of gak before popping to the shops (don't worry we've all been there) there's no way your heart rate should be that high. I'm 110kg, I know the treadmill I use takes my weight and BMR over exercise time into account when calculating its calorie total and yet it takes me me almost an hour of walking at 4.5 KM/H at a 4% incline to burn close to that number of calories.
|>>|| No. 4531
Mate is that a RHR taken when you're sitting in bed after waking up after a good night's kip or a "RHR" taken at fuck knows when after a day of caffeine, commuting, steak fucking bakes and god knows what else?
No one should be waking up with a RHR of 90 unless you're really making waves as a next generation pharmacological power user / using K Cider as your bedtime tipple or have some kind of serious heart issue. (Obviously I fucking hope it's not the second one as you haven't mentioned anything of that kind but Jesus lad, if your RHR is 90 standing up and going to the fridge is basically sending you into tachycardia. Go see a fucking doctor, sharpish).
|>>|| No. 4534
It's from actual rest.
>Go see a fucking doctor
I've seen plenty of doctors. It's fine, apparently. It's definitely about 90. Blood pressure is great, too. Post surgery a few years ago I was sat at 125 while lying in bed, and also on morphine. (no, really) They were checking my vitals every hour or so and did a couple of EKGs and nobody was particularly concerned. I was pretty fucking concerned, to be honest, but I was told it was high but not unusual, especially considering my normal RHR was already high.
I haven't done drugs in about six years and I don't drink, or have anxiety or a bad heart or anything. I'm 'healthy but a bit odd' according to medical professionals.
|>>|| No. 4535
Well if you've done echos and EKGs and a treadmill stress test and nothing worrying came up who's a random prick on the internets to say otherwise? Cholesterol and blood pressure being good is good news, maybe get your triglycerides and most importantly your homocysteine levels checked (just badger your gp until they sign the damn bloodwork papers).
If those all check out then I guess your ticker just likes to tick a little bit faster than normal.
Apologetic regards, concerned fellow shed enthusiast and amateur PhD in pseudo-drugs from the university of I read it on the internet.
|>>|| No. 4689
I've been back to eating refined carbs for a few weeks after losing 15kg on four months of keto and it's staggering how hungry I feel all the time now.
I'm going go to back to keto and investigate a cyclic keto diet so I can binge drink on the weekends. I never really missed carby food when I was on the diet but I did miss beer, so maybe I can have my cake and eat it too.
|>>|| No. 4751
Just seen a photo of me from last night. As the GenZ yute would say, "big oof".
It's easy to justify that you're not that big, but photos don't lie.
MyFitnessPal, here we go.
|>>|| No. 4752
Intermittent fasting is working pretty well for me at the moment. If you can do all your eating in an ~8 hour window from say midday to 8pm then you should just start shedding weight gradually. You will be pretty hungry in the mornings, but the upside is you don't really need to watch what you are eating.
|>>|| No. 4753
That's my general way of eating - I usually overdo it when I do eat.
I lost 40kg before, and by the looks of it I've put most of it back on. Annoying but I've been eating like a fucking pig so what can I expect?
|>>|| No. 4755
If you stick religiously to it (ie really recording what you eat and drink) for a couple of weeks, it becomes easily habit forming and works well. It's worth paying for..
I think most people do that - again I found MyFitnessPal useful when I actually weighed some of the portions and found out how many calories I was eating, rather than the "average" sized portions you read about.
|>>|| No. 4756
That's been my issue for about 3 years. When I was losing the weight the first time, I was sticking to it absolutely religiously. Then, I stopped, and getting back into it is brutally hard, especially as I don't have anything in my life resembling routine.
|>>|| No. 4757
I too have no real routine, the best thing I've found for sticking to a healthy diet is just basically any amount of exercise. Even 20 minutes of jogging or cycling or even walking every couple of days and I stay in that 'fitness' mindset and I'm far, far less likely to forget my MFP logging or want to eat an entire cake etc.
|>>|| No. 4758
Does anyone here have any experience with weight loss surgery?
|>>|| No. 4759
I've cut it out entirely, mate, and the pounds are falling away.
|>>|| No. 4760
MFP that good? I've thought about it but my laziness gets in the way.
|>>|| No. 4761
I think it's really good - worth the 30 quid. I learned a lot about how many actual calories are in the meals I eat and once you get past the first couple of days and have figured out how to record what you eat, it's very easy to use.
|>>|| No. 4762
Lads I need some advice.
Last year was pretty bad, all sorts of shit happened which left me with no motivation and Saturdays were just spent drinking quite a lot into the early hours, mainly through boredom but also habit, though non addictive. I gave up exercise which I enjoyed and wallowed in my slovenly ways.
Anyhow, this led to weight gain which turned into a vicious cycle of not giving a fuck and settling into the life of a fatlad, accepting being in my mid 40's that the extra pounds is just a part of what happens. Nothing drastic, probably 2/3 stone over my ideal healthy weight from about 3 years ago but still out of shape.
At the end of this year I realised I had to change what I was doing - taking the lazy easy path which leads to nihilisim and despair. I saw Tyson Fury come back after being a right fat bastard and thought if he can do it, so can I. The choice that can be made - take the easy route and get blackout drunk every weekend and try to forget, or take the hard route and become or do something good.
I've stopped drinking since January, not because I'm an alcoholic, just that I was drinking too much and getting fat due to the extra calories, all the shit you eat alongside this, fryups to kill hangovers, pizzas as too drunk to cook etc. I'm back into healthy eating, high protein foods, no junk food, fruit, veg (I've had chocolate about 3 times this year) etc. The thing is that I've been putting a lot of effort in but I can't seem to see that I'm losing much weight over the past 3 months.
Exercise wise I've calculated that I am burning around 7000 calories a week. This is based on cycling 70 miles and gym sessions. Roughly 1000 calories lost per day through the cycling / gym session and 2000 calories lost per week through not drinking or eating shit. Gym session is usually 20 mins on a cross trainer at 130/140 bpm at high resistance and 20 minutes of weights set at 10 x 3 reps per muscle group. I'd say this would lose 2lbs per week.
The thing is would have expected at the very least to have lost around 1 to 1.5 stone by now but I just don't feel like the weight is coming off as I would have expected. I'm getting more defined and toned from the weights but the beergut is a total bastard to remove. I'm looking forward to a beer or 2 by Easter but my goal is to shed the flab before I can take my reward and learn from the hard work it took to get to there. I'll get there eventually but at this point I feel it's going to take forever before I can wear a fitted shirt again.
|>>|| No. 4763
Don't look at weight lost or gained or BMI. Look at your body fat percentage. When you start exercising and dieting, you will quickly get noticeable gains. As your body adjusts it becomes the new normal, so you nee to start increasing the weights on your reps or increasing the reps, if you're not looking to get hench.
Don't forget that a cubic inch of muscle weighs more than a cubic inch of fat. Also you'll get weight fluctuations through how much fluid you've intaken and also how much salt is in your diet will effect you're fluid retention. Don't look at the scales look at the mirror, if you're losing weight, your trousers are getting looser and youre feeling better keep on doing it.
|>>|| No. 4764
Buy the Garmin/Withings scales - they're not too expensive, work with wifi and the app is really good. As >>4763 says, you should try and track body fat/muscle/water percentage, every day at the same time (I do first thing in the morning before the shower) - if you're into it, as you seem to be, you'll benefit greatly from the feedback.
|>>|| No. 4765
Those scales look really good, I have been on a keto diet for the past 18 months. Along with improving my diet, I have been hitting the gym 3-4 days a week. I have only dropped about 4 stone, but gone from a 40 inch waist to a 34 waist. I have some "smart" scales, but they are a bit irregular. They say that my body fat percentage has gone up after going for a piss, so I will have to invest in some better ones.
|>>|| No. 4767
>They say that my body fat percentage has gone up after going for a piss, so I will have to invest in some better ones.
All of them are based on the same technology, which is just putting a current though you and measuring your resistance. I wouldn't expect fancier ones to be that much more accurate, as being more or less dehydrated will always effect that.
|>>|| No. 4768
I know the technology will be the same, but he software and hardware is going to be better. That just means better, more accurate results. Plus the addition of a tracking app where I won't have to have to manually input everything is a bonus.
|>>|| No. 4770
The app makes it worth the money, for sure, regardless of whether the accuracy is better or not. I still don't think they'll be any better, for the same reason almost nobody needs to spend more than twenty quid on a multimeter.
I patiently await your appraisal, though, I'd be happy to be wrong, as I quite fancy a set of the Garmin ones.
|>>|| No. 4772
Those ones don't do the bodyfat stuff, just in case you didn't notice. They just do weight (and BMI because presumably you just tell it how tall you are)
|>>|| No. 4773
That'll be why it was 30 quid cheaper than the next ones up. The ones I have only cost me about 25 notes, but as I said it seems to rather inaccurate.
|>>|| No. 4774
That's exactly the one I have (actually I have two, an older one too) - it's really good.
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