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|>>|| No. 1795
ITT: Workplace annoyances.
I'll get the ball rolling - having to bring in pastries on your birthday. I know it's cheaper if people bring their own in on their birthday instead of chipping in every time someone in the office has a birthday, but it's still fucking annoying having to fork out on your birthday.
|>>|| No. 12318
>that wanted £12 for fish and chips
That sounds about par for the course. I've charged more than that in Leeds and people were fine with it. (until the restaurant closed, but that was mostly unrelated I swear)
I used to get away with nearly 20 quid for it in Ilkley. People are mental, I suppose.
|>>|| No. 12320
He tried to negotiate a better salary for a job he was offered, but instead of attempting to negotiate, the company offered him the same money and said "we might give you more in half a year if you're good lol"
That's not a particularly good contract negotiation, on the part of the company.
|>>|| No. 12321
> That's not a particularly good contract negotiation, on the part of the company.
To spell it out even further, at any job where you're at a level where contract negotiation is even a thing, you will probably get a salary review every six months anyway. Basically they told him to like it or lump it.
|>>|| No. 12322
I was annoyed at having to pay £1.50 for a large battered sausage at Horbury Fisheries today.
There's a reasonable chance the review either doesn't take place or at that meeting they say it'll be addressed during the next cycle of pay reviews. You're putting yourself in the position to be fobbed off and you'll lose some of your leverage. Always negotiate on pay.
If you don't stand your ground your employer will know they can take you for a ride. There was a study last year which said that doing an unpaid internship damages your long-term pay prospects; you're effectively declaring to all future employers you're a sap who will gladly have a load of shit shovelled on you for meagre pay.
|>>|| No. 12323
> Brazuca and one called Favela
I went to a bar once in Shoreditch just after it'd stopped being the cool place to go and wound up in a bar called "Favela Chic", which I thought was bad enough. Someone should go the whole hog and open one simply called "Macaco de Merda" or something .
Yes I know I'm being a pretentious cunt and that using random fancy-pants foreign names for your foreign restaurant is the norm, but the Brazilians do seem to be some of the worst at it. At least (most) of the French and Italian names sound poncy but actually mean something at least mildly sophisticated. Rage and sage for steam from my frothing ears.
|>>|| No. 12326
It's an empty promise. Once you've signed on, unless there's a contractual provision (as happens in the public sector) pay rises are not guaranteed, and you have no way to force a rise. In general, in-work rises are proportional, meaning that when you ask for a modest £2-3k bump, your employer will cast it as an exuberant 10% increase, and your only recourse is to leave.
|>>|| No. 12328
>That sounds about par for the course.
No, Cheflad, it is not par for the course. No sensible person should be paying more for fish and chips than the four or five quid it is at an honest chippy. I will allow a couple of extra quid if it's the seaside for cynicism's sake.
You may have gotten away with it but that just shows how divorced from reality restaurants and their patrons have become. I don't blame you for taking advantage, but this is just another symptom of Broken Britain.
|>>|| No. 12329
I've taken a similar stance on technical assessments. If there's no time limit, and the expectation is more than an hour or so, then in my book that's free labour that I'm not inclined to provide. A strict time limit of 2-3 hours is fine, but without a limit it's an estimate that's likely to be hopelessly optimistic.
To an extent, I take the same view on extracurriculars. The stuff I do outside work is for me, because I want to do it. The people who say "go build a hobby project" or "contribute to open source" to people who don't have a direct need to are basically saying "go work for free".
|>>|| No. 12330
Barracuda is the best chippy in Ossett, bar none. Slightly more expensive than the competition, but not prohibitively so - about £5.50 for fish and chips.
|>>|| No. 12331
I think Barracuda is the only chippy in Ossett I haven't tried. I usually end up at Casey's, although there's been a few times the chips have been overdone, but I haven't been since it changed hands; I've heard the new owners have bumped the prices up. Failing that I tend to go to Park Square, even though the goblin woman who runs it freaks me out a little bit.
|>>|| No. 12332
> No sensible person should be paying more for fish and chips than the four or five quid it is at an honest chippy.
Please sir, where can I find the bus that goes to the early nineties?
|>>|| No. 12333
Park Square is good, but it's only open for about six nanoseconds per week.
|>>|| No. 12334
>No, Cheflad, it is not par for the course. No sensible person should be paying more for fish and chips than the four or five quid it is at an honest chippy
It is, and they do.
I personally think it's utter madness to pay that much for fish and chips, but as I'm sure you know chippies are very hit and miss - it can take a lot of searching to find a consistently good one. My local is fantastic (they were sued, or are being sued by Victoria Beckham) but there's plenty that will serve you mush. Maybe for 6 quid a go that's understandable, but it's not always as simple as going to the closest chippy, because plenty are shite. So I can sort of see the logic in getting a 'guaranteed' good quality fish and chips for twelve quid - though I'm not going to pretend a restaurant can't fuck up the food too.
Even at an honest local chippy though, I see the price as more like 7 or 8.
|>>|| No. 12335
>it's only open for about six nanoseconds per week.
That'd be the diner next to Chicken Hut.
|>>|| No. 12336
My local chippy does cod and chips for £3.40. It's consistently decent and generally cheap and cheerful. For a treat I will go to the decent one that's a bit further away and that's only if I fancy Monkfish goujons, but I do feel a bit wary spending 8 quid for 4 ponce fish fingers and chips.
|>>|| No. 12337
>My local chippy does cod and chips for £3.40.
No they don't. If it's that cheap it almost certainly isn't cod.
|>>|| No. 12338
>My local chippy does cod and chips for £3.40.
There's no way you're getting cod and chips for £3.40. Pangasius, coley or pollock, but not cod.
|>>|| No. 12339
>if I fancy Monkfish goujons
Sent from my iPhone in Shoreditch while I skim the grauniad in my £2000 hobo chic jacket with my stupid fucking vintage pin-up tattoos and ridiculous beard before hopping on my reclaimed Edwardian bicycle to the haberdashers because the local infestation of gentrifying please-don't-call-us-middle-class wankers decided they'd happily pay through their father's nose for a piece of fake retro little England to browse in after the morning's natto and macha detox breakfast
|>>|| No. 12340
Monkfish isn't particularly fancy, not remarkably expensive, and is eaten by just about everyone in coastal towns. I suggest you have a word with yourself before you italic yourself to death in a one-man class war against an imagined enemy.
|>>|| No. 12342
The Chicken Hut is a constant in my life. It feels like it's always been there.
|>>|| No. 12344
My local chippy has won a slew of awards over the years and it's still only 4.50 for a fish supper. London isn't indicative of the rest of the country, especially not the coast. Fish is obviously going to be cheaper there unless it's a tourist trap.
|>>|| No. 12345
I live in the north, on the coast, and the suppers are still 6 quid or above. There's a chippy built into one of the fishing docks and they still charge that for it.
I'm not saying 4.50 isn't possible, but it's the lower end of the average for sure.
|>>|| No. 12346
It's probably £6 for you because they're being honest about what they're selling. Your £6 cod and chips likely has real cod in it.
|>>|| No. 12347
It's haddock at my local, not cod. Should have really mentioned that. I'm not a massive fan of cod, to be honest. If I have a choice I'll get sole, but that tends to be a day out to the beach job. I'm only 10 miles from the beach, but nowhere stocks it in between.
|>>|| No. 12348
I've been presented with a contract that has the Working Time opt-out written in directly with no separate signature, and also states that overtime is unpaid. Because I totally want to give my employer unlimited free labour.
|>>|| No. 12349
>Working Time opt-out written in directly with no separate signature
That's the contractual equivalent of saying 'benderssaywhat' really fast.
I suggest you sign it, revoke your opt-out, then sue the fuck out of them when they inevitably try to fire you for it.
|>>|| No. 12350
Is that for a small cod, or one that overhangs both sides of a dinner plate?
|>>|| No. 12351
I do live in a seaside town in the southwest and as I already mentioned Monkfish goujons are just poncey fishfingers. I can see the Fishmarket from my house and it is cod, but they're not big fillets for £3.40 and most likely not the freshest. Haddock is a bit pricier and Pollock is about 3 quid.
|>>|| No. 12352
Haddock is more expensive than cod. There's no fucking way you're getting haddock and chips for £4.50 unless it's a half portion or a small fish. I'd suggest dropping your local trading standards office a tip, because they're either mis-selling or a money laundering exercise.
|>>|| No. 12353
They tend to be around the same price these days, though your point still stands, of course.
Unless this is a not-for-profit charity chip shop, you're not getting a reasonably sized cod or haddock a fiver.
There's another discussion to be had about how pollock is absolutely just as good as either of those two, as well. I don't know why it has such a reputation as a 'cheap' alternative. I've even heard food snobs say it has no flavour, when it actually has a stronger taste than cod, and they're so similar (and related) that I would bet good money the majority of a group could not distinguish the two.
I wish I had been around in the days when turbot and chips was a viable fish supper and was plentiful enough to actually be cheaper than cod, as well.
|>>|| No. 12354
Listen, no cunt actually cares if it's cod, haddock, or pollock. Fish and chips is a working class meal and I find it offensive to the very core of my being that some wanker out there is making over a tenner for cooking the bloody chips twice.
There's a place round here that does it for under a fiver a portion and delivers, a practice you don't usually associate with fish and chips but is, in fact, revolutionary. And it's not half bad at all.
|>>|| No. 12355
>a practice you don't usually associate with fish and chips but is, in fact, revolutionary
I think every chippy round here delivers. You're mental lad.
|>>|| No. 12356
Question is, why would you want it delivered? The batter will inevitably get soggy in transit. Most disappointing thing I've ever had from a delivery was a starter of tempura prawns. This was before I knew how to cook, mind.
And yes I'm aware that some fish places send out their wares in aerated cardboard boxes - it helps, but not enough.
|>>|| No. 12357
I tend to agree. Typically if the place is within ten minutes of walking distance it'll be delivered crispy to you. But at that point, just walk there.
I can only truly enjoy fish and chips either sat on a bench or parked in a car, on the coast, as that's how I used to get them with my grandad as a lad.
|>>|| No. 12392
There's absolutely no shade in the car park at work, which meant that my car was like a sauna. I could barely touch the steering wheel or gearstick because they were that hot and when I put my driving glasses on it felt like the frame was fusing to my head.
|>>|| No. 12395
If I was him I would save money by asking the MD if he could stand in front of my car with an umbrella to keep it cool, or failing that ask if could at the very least knock the office down and rebuild it facing the other way.
|>>|| No. 12396
SMALL MEETING ROOM.
LOTS OF PEOPLE.
SOMEONE WITH SMELLY FEET.
|>>|| No. 12397
I've been rocking up to work wearing chino shorts and linen shirts for the past month. The past couple of weeks I've even been wearing a pair of all black Vans,because wearing a pair of brogues with shorts doesn't look good. No one has said anything because there aren't any obvious logo and the one bright red "badge" on the heel got painted over with black acrylic paint.
|>>|| No. 12425
I have a towel in the car I put on the steering wheel. I also leave the windows slightly ajar.
|>>|| No. 12426
We had a work experience lad in today and he couldn't even muster the fucking grace to at least pretend to be interested, and wouldn't pay attention to any of the instructions I gave him and assumed that as he'd been shown a similar process before, he knew all the software for this separate process, then fucked it up so I had to take the mouse off him and fix it every time. Fucking public school kid and all. Stupid haircut and those faded red chino shorts. Explains the massive sense of entitlement and complete faith in his own non-existent judgement.
I'm almost glad to be going to a funeral tomorrow instead of having to spend time with him again. I hope he gets bullied back at Prufrock Prep or wherever the upper classes board their turds, the little git.
|>>|| No. 12427
>I have a towel in the car I put on the steering wheel. I also leave the windows slightly ajar.
None of us really want to know what you get up to in car parks at night.
|>>|| No. 12428
>Explains the massive sense of entitlement and complete faith in his own non-existent judgement
Whilst many public school kids are twats, this unwarranted faith in their ability isn't just limited to them. If we ever hire a graduate fresh out of university then they generally don't take notes when they're being trained because they're confident they can remember it all, which inevitably leads to them monumentally fucking up about the second or third time they attempt to do it; the company I work for prefers to employ graduates who've spent a year or so in a dead-end job because they're far more grounded and switched on.
|>>|| No. 12429
I've just escaped after 4 years in a shit graduate job and I still don't take notes.
|>>|| No. 12432
Not gonna lie mate but at 16 or however old I was when I did work experience I didn't give a fuck either, sure you didn't too.
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