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|>>|| No. 1795
ITT: Workplace annoyances.
I'll get the ball rolling - having to bring in pastries on your birthday. I know it's cheaper if people bring their own in on their birthday instead of chipping in every time someone in the office has a birthday, but it's still fucking annoying having to fork out on your birthday.
|>>|| No. 11914
I feel like this is somewhat more sinister than if it was a government agency.
|>>|| No. 11915
Not at all. They're nothing like the PCC, which really was a shambles, especially when Dacre was chairing it.
|>>|| No. 11917
I don't trust industries on prinipal to self regulate because ultimately their self interest overides public good. They feel like a PR exercise to me. Don't get me wrong they can have they should have say to regulators and it is important that they do but they can't be making the decisions, these organisations look too much like lobbies to me.
|>>|| No. 11918
Ads on early ITV were regulated by statute. The print sector didn't want the same thing happening to them so established a code and a regulator to go with it. This being the early 60s British establishment, they were pretty even-handed and had a keen sense of duty, which the relevant government department specifically called out when recommending that a statutory regulator wasn't needed. When the IBA was broken up, the ASA was given responsibility for advertising content. Ofcom only really deals with things like scheduling violations or taste and decency.
|>>|| No. 11919
Depending on the industry, self-regulation can work very well. As you say, companies will act in their own interests, and it is often in their interest to have effective self-regulation because that's a very good way of keeping the government from regulating them instead. One of the findings from Leveson that underpinned a number of the recommendations was that the self-regulation in the press was, by and large, not effective as publications could and often did violate the codes with relative impunity.
|>>|| No. 11920
Obviously, I mean it doesn't take a genius to see it; the thing is you usually just ignore it in order to enjoy your programme. I more meant that when you have a head full of psychedelics, it's pretty much the only thing you can see.
|>>|| No. 11972
Some utter twat had left their mobile on their desk with their ringer set obnoxiously loud. It's rung three times in the last 20 minutes.
How fucking hard is it to take it with you when you leave the room?
|>>|| No. 11973
I've been tasked with training up an idiot. He's been at the company for over three years and he's still classed as a trainee; there's someone who was promoted into our team a few months ago and is already regarded as more competent than him.
I sort of sympathise with him, as he's effectively been neglected for the past three years but he hasn't really shown any gumption to try and take it upon himself to learn; he has to be spoon-fed and seems incapable of truly thinking for himself. He regularly whines he hasn't been given more responsibility but he's still making fundamental errors and it doesn't help that he's not very responsive to feedback because he's got an inflated sense of the standard of his work.
|>>|| No. 11974
In our office, the usual treatment for that is to put the phone in the fridge.
|>>|| No. 11979
My office last year was simply that. Every fucker would leave their phone at their desk and often people would just call until they got an answer.
There was one twat, however, who would be completely oblivious to his phone ringing, so he would be looking at pictures of motorbikes on Google while his phone was blaring out his shitty ringtone, often several times in a row, without even a stir of attention from him. Eventually when he left it on his desk one time I changed the ringtone to save my own sanity. I doubt he noticed.
|>>|| No. 11998
One of the young 'uns at work today said they'd never heard of U2 or Guns N' Roses. Is this what getting old is like?
|>>|| No. 12001
We had a kid doing some work experience with us this week, he was born in 2001. I remember when 2001 was the far future and we were going to have flying cars and personal jet packs.
|>>|| No. 12002
Perhaps, but at the same time when I was a teenlad back in 2005 or so, I had still heard of Duran Duran, Depeche Mode, even The Who and Small Faces etc.
It's not always a case of being too young to know, just not giving a shit about music.
|>>|| No. 12003
The middle aged men with chips on their shoulders constantly fire 70s/80s pop culture questions at me, a "young'in". I'm also in my early 20s, but can usually answer most of them.
|>>|| No. 12004
Don't make the mistake of living in the past. You'll end up as one of those bitter old biddies who spend their twilight years whinging about how they hate their life because its not like "in the old days" (which never really existed except through a pair of rose tinted glasses).
|>>|| No. 12006
I would if I knew anything about them, or cared. The stranger thing is that the bigger names (Ed Sheeran, Adele), these middle aged men are sat there at 9am hitting the refresh button for tickets. I can't imagine why anyone at all would like Ed Sheeran, but a 50-year-old man especially just boggles my mind.
|>>|| No. 12007
>the bigger names (Ed Sheeran, Adele), these middle aged men are sat there at 9am hitting the refresh button for tickets.
That'll be for the wife.
|>>|| No. 12008
You'd think, but it's not. The Wife goes, but they too genuinely like them.
|>>|| No. 12009
It's because he's the musical equivalent of soft vegetables. Old people can't handle this modern al dente shite, nor can they process any music that might have any hint of nuance or force behind it.
|>>|| No. 12010
But you'd think they'd just watch Showaddywaddy or Status Quo in concert as they do every year.
|>>|| No. 12011
Maybe they feel more hip and modern if they listen to him. He's one of them new fangled artists, but timelessly bland.
|>>|| No. 12021
This isn't really a moan, I just wanted to share it:
At work we buy some products from an Italian company. We get paperwork accompanying the deliveries, and at the bottom it's signed:
>Mr Italian Chap
>QUALITY ASS. MANAGER
My inner child chuckles every time.
Reposted because I manage to mess up the spoiler code every single bloody time.
|>>|| No. 12022
I've been referred to as a "techie whizz kid" this week because I showed someone how to add websites to their bookmarks bar.
|>>|| No. 12024
We have a company called Associated Plastics or something. Their account code is ASS01 and they send us payments from Ass Plastics. Anything for a laugh in the accounts department.
|>>|| No. 12026
I've been the chosen one ever since I showed them how to do compound growth on Excel.
|>>|| No. 12028
Have you ever had to work in an office with people over the age of 40, particularly those who say things like "COMPUTERS JUST DON'T LIKE ME" and other bollocks along those lines? I'll clue you in:-
>Knowing something as basic as Alt + Tab to switch between windows is seen as witchcraft/being a complete computer nerd
>The account in my office knows me as the "techy guy" because I showed her that hovering over the time in the taskbar will show her today's date.
>I've just been referred to as "techie" for being able to put files into a zip folder.
>This morning I've already had to go around and help someone who had turned off num lock and another who looked at me like some kind of sorcerer for introducing her to format painter.
>I've spent a today being the "techie guy".
>Helping out someone who accidentally went back a web page because they'd pressed backspace. Being called to the other side of the office because someone else couldn't figure out why double clicking on a document wasn't doing anything when it turned out they already had it open. Helping someone who didn't know how to type negative numbers into Excel. Demonstrating how to use the snipping tool and create a zip file.
>A couple of things I missed from my "techie" day yesterday - helping someone who had managed to set the default printer to one in a different room, showing them how to print double sided and then helping someone else who couldn't understand why a document kept printing on the wrong type of paper because they hadn't selected which trays to print from.
>Today's techie job - going round to the other side of the office to help someone who didn't know how to save a document from an e-mail.
|>>|| No. 12030
It paints formatting from source to one or more destinations. I don't get why they name these things so cryptically.
|>>|| No. 12031
What I've found with these people is that they don't want to learn, so they just say "oh computers hate me" and get someone else to do it for them. I've even made user guides for things I had to show people had to do time and time again (graphs in excel, for example), but they still ask me, every time, how to change the colour of a line or whatever.
|>>|| No. 12032
It copies the formating (font, size, bold underlined, ect.) in the selected area to another area (the next area you select).
It is one of those tools that seems so intuitive and obvious once you use it you can't believe no one thought of it before they did. Like all good design the though that went into it is easily dismissed now that it exists.
|>>|| No. 12033
As I've gotten older I've begun to appreciate somethings aren't worth learning. Mostly through bad learning experiences of obnoxious interfaces that grind you down over a life time. I realise what you are talking about seems like very basic stuff but at some point we all get tired of keeping up and stop learning the new interfaces and tricks (I really haven't cared what features my phone has other than calls, messages, music player, and internet browser for years), eventually you fall into the logic that any task that seem difficult to me the interface will now probably change in a few years’ time to make things easier so I don't need to force myself through learning anyway.
As we age we all learn to accept certain limitations and appreciate the division of labour of asking the young people how to do things we don't want to spend time learning, and it makes them feel valued, imagine how awful it would be to start working somewhere where everyone else knew everything 20 years better than you did otherwise.
|>>|| No. 12036
Maybe it's just because I've not hit the age yet, but I think the opposite - I really can't help but dig in to whatever I'm doing to see how it works and what I can do. Similarly, if I don't know how to do something I am still capable of finding out how to do it myself - and I learned most of my technical and life knowledge before you could just google it.
There's plenty of yoof stuff that I don't understand, and I get just not being interested in the latest 'thing' anymore, as you've lived long enough to realise most bleeding edge killer apps are fads.
But I cannot get into the mindset of someone who looks at an unfamiliar system, and instead of thinking "I wonder how I get my emails up on this thing" they think "why have they removed the emails from this computer". It's utterly incomprehensible. My natural urge is to just poke around and see what happens. I had assumed all people had this curiosity. Are they just scared they'll break the thing by poking around in the settings? Are they wilfully refusing to learn because, like you say, they think they'll never get their head around the next version so why bother ever trying? Is it just that their version of googling a problem is to call the intern over? I can't imagine living in a world where I just assumed a major tool in my job was incomprehensible to me.
Do you never just wonder how to do something and then look up if it's possible? I don't think I need to confine this just to computers, don't you like to know vaguely how your car works? How to change a tyre or a bulb? It's great that we can just pay someone to do it for us, sure, but I'm not I'll ever be able to let go of wanting to at least understand how it's done.
Just yesterday I had a problem with a light switch in my house, I've never in my life looked at the back of a light switch or wired a house or anything like that, but after about fifteen minutes of fiddling I had figured it out. I'm sure an electrician could have done it in thirty seconds flat, but I learned something I wouldn't have by paying them to do it, even if they'd explained it after. You could argue that's not a good use of my time, but if I ever come across the problem again I know how to deal with it.
|>>|| No. 12040
Well any point between the invention of the word processor and the first version to have it really.
|>>|| No. 12041
Do you never just wonder how to do something and then look up if it's possible?
Sure, but then you find an answer and it is all in jargon and your eyes glaze over after you've checked multiple locations and they are all just the same jargon and trying to find out what the jargon means leads you down a rabbit hole where you realise you just don't care enough about what should be a small simple thing you just want to do but apparently will take hours to understand and you really aren't in the mood you just want it done.
|>>|| No. 12042
This really doesn't sound like a realistic scenario. What jargon are we talking about?
|>>|| No. 12043
Could be any task really, but in my experiance it happenes with anything related to linux almost instantly.
|>>|| No. 12047
Another lad here. I'm like you and like to understand stuff, but sometimes I go on a wikijourney and end up on some mathematical thingy, which defines itself with other mathematical thingies, and I click on them and it's all a bit *whoooshy*.
Here's an example:
A sentence such as
"An equivalent form of the conjecture involves a coarser form of equivalence than homeomorphism called homotopy equivalence: if a 3-manifold is homotopy equivalent to the 3-sphere, then it is necessarily homeomorphic to it."
just stops me in my tracks. I imagine that's the kind of scenario otherlad is talking about.
|>>|| No. 12048
The advantage of Linuxland is that it's an incredibly stable environment over time. If you learned Bash and Vim back in the early 90s, you could jump onto a modern Linux distro and be doing useful work almost immediately. It's not particularly easy to learn, but you rarely have to relearn anything just because the UI changed.
|>>|| No. 12049
This is probably a discussion more suited to /g/ but I think that is perhaps what is stopping widespread adoption of it. It's not the Unix environment; implementations of it that completely destroy the standard workflow (i.e. Android or OS X (though it is admittedly possible to use a terminal in both, but it's not necessary)) have proven wildly successful.
|>>|| No. 12051
Isn't that more you looking in the wrong place, though? If you don't particularly care about understanding the underlying mathematics, then you need a reference at a different level. I didn't understand that page, but instead of going to read about topology, I went to a different source, specifically, https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poincaré_conjecture
Which is much more my level of understanding.
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