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>> No. 4012 Anonymous
14th December 2012
Friday 9:36 am
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Stickied
Applying for JSA links
http://pastebin.com/5vJCh4HQ
http://www.urban75.com/Action/Jsa/jsa2.html
Both are a little out of date.
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>> No. 10133 Anonymous
11th July 2016
Monday 9:09 pm
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>>10084
In a completely unexpected turn of events, she's been put right into the support group. Only for 6 months though.
>> No. 10134 Anonymous
11th July 2016
Monday 9:49 pm
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>>10133

That'll just be to see if her condition improves. I have a chronic illness and haven't heard from them in nearly 2 years. I just handed them all my consultant's letters and answered the questions and that was it; silence ever since.
>> No. 10135 Anonymous
11th July 2016
Monday 10:41 pm
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>>10134
I wish they'd just fuck off and leave her be. It's been a real hell for her since the day the form came through and a big relief today, albeit tinged with the fear of having to go through it all again so soon.
>> No. 10411 Anonymous
29th August 2016
Monday 9:24 am
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What does 'change of condition' actually mean?
I've been claiming ESA for roughly 4 years and my day to day life has become easier as a result, significantly so over the past 2 years since I've adjusted my worldview. All in all I am much better now than when I applied for ESA.
What I don't understand is if my condition has changed, and therefore need to re-apply/assess for benefit. Every time a review (or whatever the terminology is) come up I feel very guilty and have to justify my claim.
I feel it is the support of ESA that allows me to live a reasonably stable life, without which I would soon fall back into the shit I once was (I have actually experienced this, its not just an idea).

For the most part I've found honesty the best policy when talking with ESA staff, but with each note they take regarding my comments my confidence fails and I wonder if I'm digging myself deeper into a hole, if I'm sending myself back to the start were I'd consider desperate options.

I want to say this to during my meetings but I'm too scared, should it affect my benefit.
>> No. 10426 Anonymous
2nd September 2016
Friday 12:08 am
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>>10411
If you want to stay on ESA, NEVER EVER mention anything about feeling better. Do not assume an assessor to have common sense or sympathy.
>> No. 10427 Anonymous
2nd September 2016
Friday 12:51 am
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>>10411
From the sounds of it, you are coping better with your condition now but your condition itself hasn't changed. If this is correct, then don't say that your condition has improved to the ESA staff.
>> No. 10462 Anonymous
13th September 2016
Tuesday 1:26 pm
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Universal Credit is bloody brilliant, innit. Been getting a stonking great penny a month since May and now I don't even get to live off such generous largesse now my pay has gone up and I'm more or less full time again (seasonal work). Still get made to go in every fortnight at the expense of my own time and bus fare, even though I'm working at least 25 hour weeks (much of it overtime for unsociable hours) and there is absolutely no remuneration for upholding my end of the bargain.
I can't just "quit" because "it doesn't work like that" and apparently signing on doesn't exist anymore, so signing off is also not an option.
I can understand the idea behind it, but you get suckered into having someone having a detailed nosey at your income, earnings, your schedule etc. way past you're reaping any kind of benefit.
>> No. 10468 Anonymous
17th September 2016
Saturday 12:11 am
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>>10462
Not long fella and they'll be threatening you if you dont hammer away looking for a job with more hours.
>> No. 10474 Anonymous
25th September 2016
Sunday 12:02 pm
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>>10468

An interesting development. I rang up the centre and asked to close my claim and they did within minites. So much for all the coercion and what turned out to be hollow threats.
>> No. 10693 Anonymous
30th October 2016
Sunday 4:55 pm
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>>10084
And now arrives for the for renewal for fucks sake.
>> No. 10793 Anonymous
1st December 2016
Thursday 9:31 pm
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I rang up and signed off universal credit in September. Got paid in November , thought great, they must just be paying my remaining money for the last month. But I've just been paid £500 as of today. I even worked the entire last month. Although having said that a few days ago I sent in a claim for UC , although I haven't received an interview date or any contact whatsoever. Is this for my new claim? It can't be can it? Or is this some error on behalf of my old?
>> No. 10794 Anonymous
1st December 2016
Thursday 9:47 pm
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>>10793

I was also on sanction 'pay' for the last few months. Could they be totting up the -50% Pay I was on and giving it to me?
>> No. 11084 Anonymous
17th February 2017
Friday 11:49 am
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This is a huge thread so I'm not sure if it's been covered before, did a quick ctrl+f but found nothing. I've recently gotten back into the country and was away for sometime. I'm a UK citizen but now I'm looking for work again and I have a sign on date for Monday, they have however just called me asking if I can come in early to fill out some other forms since I was out of the country for a while. All I can seem to find on Google is something about a habitual residency test and also a news article about a bunch of people not being able to sign on for 3 months after being out of the country.

Anyone know any more about this or been through it? Am I fucked for 3 months? Obviously I'm still going to look for work on my own and already am, but it's slim pickings around here as it is.
>> No. 11093 Anonymous
18th February 2017
Saturday 9:33 pm
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>>11084 when did you last pay tax or NI contributions?
>> No. 11094 Anonymous
18th February 2017
Saturday 9:48 pm
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>>11093
Most likely 2015 as I was away for the majority of 2016.
>> No. 11160 Anonymous
4th March 2017
Saturday 4:02 pm
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>>11084
So I don't know if anyone was paying attention to this but I just got several letters through (Why not just one?) saying that I'm not entitled to Jobseekers Allowance because "the law says we cannot pay you". Which law? Don't know. Why? No idea. Apparently I have to get on their asses to actually get an explanation. Luckily I have some savings and family to stay with, otherwise I'd be out on the streets.
>> No. 11161 Anonymous
4th March 2017
Saturday 5:21 pm
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>>11160

If you were working outside the EEA, you can be declared "Not Habitually Resident"; you will not be entitled to claim benefits until you have been habitually resident in the EEA for at least 90 days. If you were working outside the UK but within the EEA, you will be entitled to benefits immediately (Swaddling v. Adjudication Officer).

If you were working within the EEA, you should appeal, giving evidence of where you were working. Assuming you are otherwise entitled to benefits, you should receive JSA backdated to your original claim date. If you were working outside the EEA, you should probably still appeal, although you might be on a sticky wicket.
>> No. 11162 Anonymous
5th March 2017
Sunday 2:56 am
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>>11161
Well that's bloody daft.
>> No. 11171 Anonymous
6th March 2017
Monday 6:27 am
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>>11160

Just don't expect council housing lad.

Trust I, don't even bother applying for 6 months. And then expect to be told to fuck off.
>> No. 11261 Anonymous
18th April 2017
Tuesday 7:28 pm
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Got my Universal Credit interview on Thursday, I'm going to break my vow of never returning to the job centre.
>> No. 11262 Anonymous
18th April 2017
Tuesday 8:45 pm
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>>11261

Good luck, mate. You're going to bloody well need it.
>> No. 11263 Anonymous
18th April 2017
Tuesday 10:54 pm
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>>11261
Expect no money for 2 months and then irregular ever changing amounts afterwards.
>> No. 11264 Anonymous
18th April 2017
Tuesday 11:30 pm
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>>11263
I left my last job so I'm already expecting no money for a while, Only really going on it so I have proof I was doing something inbetween the gap of unemployment.
I wouldn't have signed on at all otherwise, I hardly need CV writing lessons or to be locked in a room with a bunch of chavs and made to look at jobsites for a few hours.
>> No. 11265 Anonymous
20th April 2017
Thursday 11:33 am
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>>11264
I'm in a job club! 3 days a week for a month I'm expected to attend a 1 hour session with a bunch of mouth breathers on how to write CV's, apply for jobs and other bullshit I already know how to do.
Some daft bint wants to talk to me about how the YMCA can help me too, I agreed to talk to her and next thing I know I'm being told to signed all kinds of shit.
>> No. 11266 Anonymous
20th April 2017
Thursday 10:31 pm
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>>11265

You sound like a wanker.
>> No. 11267 Anonymous
21st April 2017
Friday 12:33 pm
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>>11266
Maybe, The last time I signed on was 7 years ago and back then I was an unexperienced herbert so I was expecting to be treated like one.
I've been going from job to job moving up for the past few years and I know all the do's and dont's, how to write a CV, how to dress for Interviews and how to deal with them, all that stuff. So when I'm told I'm going to have to waste my time with stuff I already know it's understandable why I'll become cuntish.
I know they're only trying to help but I'm hardly some tracksuit wearing chav stinking of booze unwilling to look for work. As said I'm only really on it so I have a record I was doing something, I'm not going to be jumping through all their hoops this time.
>> No. 11274 Anonymous
21st April 2017
Friday 7:46 pm
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>>11267
Why are you unemployed if you know so much?
>> No. 11275 Anonymous
21st April 2017
Friday 10:48 pm
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>>11274
Because no one will believe the answer to life the universe and everything even if I told them.
>> No. 11276 Anonymous
21st April 2017
Friday 10:55 pm
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>>11275
Yeah, it is difficult to believe homeless alcoholic men.
>> No. 11585 Anonymous
24th August 2017
Thursday 9:52 pm
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>>4012
Had a PIP payment out of the blue of £1600.
Turns out the reassessment I had months ago has put me in the Standard Daily and Enchanced Mobility, instead of just Standard Daily and no Mobility.

The system works sometimes.
>> No. 11586 Anonymous
29th August 2017
Tuesday 11:46 am
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>>11585
How will you be using the money?
>> No. 11587 Anonymous
29th August 2017
Tuesday 11:53 am
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>>11586

I need to pay off my plasma screen from Brighthouse and I'm buying us all a takeaway as a treat.
>> No. 11589 Anonymous
29th August 2017
Tuesday 6:43 pm
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>>11587
Don't make fun of the lad. He's not necessarily retarded just because he receives PIP.
>> No. 11605 Anonymous
2nd October 2017
Monday 10:57 pm
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I've landed myself a part time job for 15 hours a week due to start in the next 2 weeks. I'm on universal credit so I'm guessing I'm still going to be on a leash with the job centre.

Are they going to make me look for work for 20 hours a week now rather than the usual 35? Do I still have to jump through all the hoops or will they remove some hoops now I've got some income?
>> No. 11606 Anonymous
3rd October 2017
Tuesday 12:09 am
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>>11605

When I was on it, you still had to do 35.
>> No. 11607 Anonymous
3rd October 2017
Tuesday 5:04 pm
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>>11589 >>11606
You don't have to pretend to us it takes even an hour a fortnight to produce the evidence the Jobcentre asks for.
>> No. 11623 Anonymous
7th October 2017
Saturday 7:52 pm
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>>11607

They can track your job applications through the system so they'll know if you're on it every day and what you searched for and applied for
>> No. 11624 Anonymous
7th October 2017
Saturday 9:48 pm
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>>11623
Can you not just leave the stalker mode tick box blank?
>> No. 11625 Anonymous
7th October 2017
Saturday 11:24 pm
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>>11623
There was no system when I was on it back in 2014. Weird.
>> No. 11626 Anonymous
8th October 2017
Sunday 12:11 pm
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>>11625

Got to spend millions on stalker tech to catch those benefit cheats who've roont ARE country, mate. However much money it takes to stop them leeching money from the system... Wait.
>> No. 11631 Anonymous
10th October 2017
Tuesday 2:42 pm
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>>11624
Yes, but then you get pestered every week begging for access and they want dated printouts of applications etc.
>> No. 11655 Anonymous
1st November 2017
Wednesday 3:40 pm
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I'm going to lose my job soon, and I've looked to the local councils universal credit helpline for an estimation. It turns out I am eligible for £10 a week, because my girlfriend earns 17k. Now my girlfriend is by no means someone I am going to have support me, principles aside it is simply impossible, she can't afford to do that. I mentioned to the lady this and she said there's nothing they can do. I asked if it would be different if I told her she was just a friend, and she just said "well is she on the tenacy agreement?" which of course she is, and left it at that.

My question is this: 1) How can they quantify a girlfriend as a partner when there is no legal basis for what that even means?

2) If I submit an application under "No partners", and class her simply as my friend, is this benefit fraud?

3) Could they use that phonecall I just made as evidence?
>> No. 11656 Anonymous
1st November 2017
Wednesday 4:09 pm
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>>11655
On the turn2us website, if I class her as simply a joint-tenant I am entitled to £900 odd a month apparently.
>> No. 11657 Anonymous
1st November 2017
Wednesday 5:50 pm
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>>11656
In cases where there's a man and a woman of similar age living together and claiming joint tenancy, the council will sometimes send someone around to see if they're a couple (theoretically this applies to any pairs of joint tenants, but I doubt many gay couples ever get hassled). If you have two bedrooms and one is a double bed while the other's full of boxes and a spare mattress then they aren't going to be fooled. They'll expect to see two totally separate bedrooms that are obviously in individual use.

If they do start paying you and then find you out later they'll certainly send you a bill to recover however much they've given you during that period (it's on you to tell them if your circumstances change, i.e. you becoming a couple. "We became boyfriend and girlfriend last month, honest" likely won't wash - I'd expect them to ask for the full amount). Don't know if there's a fine on top.
>> No. 11661 Anonymous
4th November 2017
Saturday 8:47 pm
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>>11657
Wouldn't the council have to get permission from a court in order to have the right to enter the property to check this?
>> No. 11662 Anonymous
4th November 2017
Saturday 10:40 pm
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>>11661
No, they just come around. Same deal with social workers; they can poke around and ask to come in and you can refuse, but if you refuse them entry they will escalate the case, and that involves the police etc. and a court order eventually. Since they are in the position of power, fucking with them like this won't end well.

In >>11655's case the council might also consider refusal to enter as circumstantial evidence of being a couple and refuse to accept joint tenancy status until you let them in. Basically, you have to play by their rules if you want benefits.
>> No. 11663 Anonymous
5th November 2017
Sunday 10:44 am
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Any of you ladchaps know anything about Bennys and Compo payments?
>> No. 11664 Anonymous
5th November 2017
Sunday 10:47 am
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>>11662
>the council might also consider refusal to enter as circumstantial evidence of being a couple
Do you know for a fact that that is legal?
>> No. 11672 Anonymous
21st November 2017
Tuesday 6:24 pm
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I'm on the verge of ending my decade-long unemployment spell but if my employer can't grease the wheels and make a formal offer before Universal Credit comes in next month I'm gonna lose out. And if they offer me fewer hours it just gets worse. Thanks for helping me into work Theresa.
>> No. 11673 Anonymous
21st November 2017
Tuesday 11:21 pm
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>>11672
I cant see UC ever making it completely out of the blocks. Way too much uproar over it nowadays. Even the Tory Rags are slamming it.

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