>>4998

Not sure if serious but, to me, Ambrose just looks like a fat boston-irish mick alcoholic in most of his Shield promos. (Not necessarily in that pic, though).

Cena seems to be a genuinely passionate guy who loves the biz. His cleaner than clean, US Marine, Buzzcut persona makes me want to drink vodka until my eyes itch, but that's besides the point.

AJ Lee is possibly the only reason to watch these days.

I miss ECW.

This post was a mess.

>>4999

>AJ Lee is possibly the only reason to watch these days.

M8. My boy DBry dawg is da greatest performer in ennertainment right now dawg. He's the future of the company, I'm convinced.

X-Pac shat in Mark Henry's sandwich and Mark didn't know and ate it. He also shat in Sable's bag. I think there are more X-Pac shitting stories but I can't remember. There was the Plane Ride From Hell, which was a transatlantic flight full of pissed up wrestlers getting into altercations. Brock Lesnar beat up Mr Perfect after Perfect told him he was a bad fighter. Goldust was drunk and was serenading his ex-wife. Michael Hayes was drunk and punched Bradshaw, so X-Pac cut off Hayes' mullet. Once again, X-Pac getting up hijinks.

Has anyone else been watching Total Divas? It's a trainwreck of a show that tries to keep kayfabe while breaking it at the same time, featuring some real backstage drama and some scripted drama, resulting in a confusing mess. Highlights include the relationships between Brie Bella & Daniel Bryan, and Nikki Bella & John Cena. DBry is punching well above his weight. Natalya comes across as an absolutely lovely woman (albeit with a goofy boyfriend, the never-on-TV Tyson Kidd), and I'm glad she won a match at Summerslam because she's wasted being Khali's girlfriend. One of the Funkadactyls is a cunt, the other seems alright but she's engaged to one of the Usos who speaks like he's from the Baltimore projects. Of the two new Divas, Jojo seems perfectly lovely, and Eva Marie is a talentless husk of a human being who can't display emotion. One of the legit bits of backstage drama is that Brodus Clay told the less black Funkadactyl she sucked in a dress rehearsal, so her boyfriend (a non wrestler) got mad backstage and threatened to beat up Brodus.

420chan's taimapedia has a page called "The Sleaze List".

Read it.

We should discuss Raw, etc rather than trying to one up each other with how many botchamania videos we can find on youtube.

I haven't watched since Summerslam because I got worked so hard when Haitch buried Daniel Bryan with that finish I think I may have actually foamed at the mouth. What's the news?

My prediction for this current programme is DB entering the Rumble at #1 and winning, after being screwed for months, then making Randy tap out at Mania. Watch this space!

Also, Haitch better put him over, the nepotistic cunt.

Any dirtsheet hilarity you read post it here, too.

>>5011
I've not seen WWE since Summerslam, but my friend took notes for me so going from what I remember.

Cena is going to be off TV for 6 months due to elbow surgery, and he said his big swollen elbow was why Daniel Bryan won. Vince, Haitch and Steph said they think Daniel Bryan is a 'great little technician', but they said without Cena they need a big guy to be the face of the company, not some bearded midget. So they chose chiseled warrior god Randy Orton.

Heel Del Rio is complaining about how Latinos don't get enough respect, Face Ricardo Rodriguez says they do get respect and he is now teamed up with someone who truly respects Latinos - the whole fuckin show, Rob Van Dam.

The Shield are now Brad Maddox's little bum boys, who he uses to punish people who voice opinions against what the McMahon-Helmsley family think. Ziggler had to take on The Shield in a 3 on 1 tag match for saying Bryan was screwed. From what I hear, he demolished the entire Shield until they all ganged up on him at once. Also Big Show vs The Shield in a 3 v 1 non-tag, so 4 men in the ring. Big Show won. Also I think The Prime Time Players beat The Shield too, with PTP being face since Young came out as gay.

Confirmed for Night Of Champions so far:

Bryan vs Orton in extreme rules match for WWE Championship.
RVD vs Del Rio for World Heavyweight Championship
CM Punk vs Curtis Axel and Paul Heyman in an elimination handicap match.

>>5030

I'm pretty sure that the Ricardo Rodriguez angle was designed for Ray Mysterio. Del Rio keeps going on about being a Mexican hero and then Ricardo Rodriguez comes out and now manages RVD for no apparent reason, I can't see how RVD is a hero for the mexican people. Bearing in mind all Ricardo can do is announce Del Rio's name well, it would make sense for him to manage Mysterio, you can really roll the "r"s and stretch out the name.

>>5011

I threw a right hissy fit at summerslam, but the way they're playing it is tantalisingly similar to Austin vs McMahon back in the day. The fact he got screwed in a way that allows them to build his super face character up is very good news. I was half expecting them to have him lose the belt in 17 seconds and sweep him under the rug but orton's reign is all about Bryan. Add into the mix Cena's taking an extended break, mah boy d bry is being groomed for the number one spot in the company. BAH GAWD

>>5030

I did think that The Shield would get nuclear heat by being corporate lackies.

I've taped this weeks RAW and I read that AJ fucking buries the Bella twins in a sick pipe bomb promo, which tickles me no end as this will undoubtely turn her Face with the crowd. I will relent and watch it.

>>5031

Dirtsheets have said as much, Rey is ready to go apparantly but Vince is procrastinating. Or, he's still injured because that has been circulating too. Either could be true.

Night of Champions is looking great, though. Randy is going to Chickenshit hell it, rather than dominate. Gotta kerp D-Bry strong, which is Ironic considering how they've booked Orton similarly in the past.

So Edge is apparently putting in an appearance next week on Raw. Any ideas if it's just a one off, or will he do a Shaun Michaels and return for many a year despite having retired?

>>5035

He's promoting the new series of Haven. It'll be a one off, or a limited run. He wont wrestle, he might spear someone.

I'll fucking overwork my livingroom like a crazed child when he comes out, I'm a huge Edge mark.

JR was forced to retire because of backlash over Ric Flair being drunk at the WWE 2K14 Symposium on Summerslam Weekend. 2K Games loved it, but the WWE management did not. Also a proposed deal with Ric Flair to appear on Summerslam and appear on WWE TV more was scrapped. Video below, starts off very dull but gets interesting when Flair comes out and the script is thrown out of the window.

https://www.youtube.com/v/-UsZbnHYiXs

>>5050

I knew the whole retirement thing was bullshit, but I had no idea how much they've srewed that man. How is it JR's fault that Flair is a fucking mess?

I sincerely hope I don't see "WHAT'S THIS TAZ? WHAT'S GOOD OL' JIMM RUSSLE DOING IN THE IMPACT ZONE?!" Anytime soon.

This thread is now remarkably out of date, and also reminds me how fat and dead Brain Damage is.

Who actually watched NoC then? Once again a PPV is less relevant and less fun to watch than the Raw immediately after it.

>>5051

Theoretically JR was supposed to be the host and therefore in charge, and he should have dunked the soak a lot soon than he did. If you ask me Vince was just itching for a reason to get shot of him.

He won't go to TNA, Ross is like a beaten wife at this point. Plus they sell his sauce.

Ok, so is anyone still watching this shit?

HHH confirmed for worse booker than Vince Russo...

Grown men.

Watching other grown men.

Pretend to fight.

Take a good look at yourself lads.

>>5194
Don't be homophobic.

>>5195

PoTY.

>>5194

I don't really see your point, you are looking at this through troll tinted glasses.

It's no different to any other TV show or film with fighting in it, it doesn't pretend to be real outside of kayfabe. The moves they do in the ring hurt, though. It's why so many veterans are confined to wheelchairs and people have died through moves gone wrong.

The fighting is a plot device. I'm surprised that you, in your infinite wisdom, didn't pick up on that. The better the wrestler, the easier it is to suspend you disbelief, just like actors.

They perform, the dont compete. It's about the stories and the show, you're trying to instigate a cunt off based on an insecurity that wrestling fans simply don't have.

For example, complaining about Triple H's event booking is like complaining about The Moff's casting for Who, Sherlock, etc. All you've really done here is display complete and willfull ignorance, so if anyone needs to have a word with themselves it appears to be you.

>>5197

> For example, complaining about Triple H's event booking is like complaining about

I agreed with you on everything up here. The booking since MITB has been worthy of late-90s WCW.

>>5198

Hunter, please leave.

>>5197
> All you've really done here is display complete and willfull ignorance

Not true. I was a wrestling fan all the way up to age 12 so I know what fascinationit can have.


But really...posting it on the sports board? Does ballet go here too then?

(A good day to you Sir!)

>>5200

Look lad, this thread has been here for months, you're just looking for an argument.

Stop being a cunt.

>>5200

Ballet stars are also tremendous atheletes, so I certainly wouldn't raise an eyebrow.

In fact, the film The Wrestler and the film Black Swan were supposed to be the same film but they split it into 2. Forgive my digression, but there are a lot of parallels between the two I find interesting.

>>5199
You misunderstand. I'm saying it's bad. Late 90s WCW had terrible booking.

>>5202

http://rickystarr.blogspot.co.uk/

>>5203

>Misunderstand

What did you think I was on about in the sentence you quoted, if not that HHH's booking is shit?

It was a poorly booked post, worthy of the swervemiester himself, not enough Misawa or Tokyo Dome. ***1/2

>>5205

Implying that it's HHH posting implies that he's defending himself and his booking through that post. Your mask of Kayfabe is starting to crack. Despite your Savagian rhetoric soon it will fall altogether like taker's streak under the onslaught of a full SUPER CENA barrage.

>Seriously though, TV deals aren't as important as they once were. You can watch all these shows online. I watch a lot of wrestling on 420chan's /wooo/tube.

Are you high? Do you really think these promotions spend huge amounts of money making these shows just so you and half a dozen of your stoner mates can watch them for nothing on 420chan? Not to mention that a lot of these shows were originally made to be broadcast on television in the first place.

>Why are you being so defensive of TNA?

I'm just responding to your criticisms. I happen to like TNA. I've watched ROH and Japanese wrestling and I find both a bit dull.

>They've been run into the ground by Dixie Carter

You're exaggerating again. They're still in business and pulling in around a million viewers a week on Spike TV.

>They deserve better than TNA, a TV deal means shit when you're on $300 dollars an appearance.

A lot of the current TNA wrestlers would get fuck all if the company folded tomorrow. You're also totally ignoring the importance of competition in the wrestling business. Arguably the greatest period in US wrestling history, both from a business and a creative standpoint, was during the latter years of the Monday Night Wars. Just saying.

>>5242

You are labouring under the delusion that TNA are actual competition.

TNA have been getting a 1.0 for a long time. They have a hardcore of fans, of which I am one. Nothing that Dixie carter has done to try and improve the brand has worked, that number has stayed the same. They haven't brought in new viewers. Their live tours were a flop, because they weren't well publicised. The only place they done well was the UK. They were still getting a 1.0 all through their failed attempt to go head to head with WWE on a monday night.

Dixie is a money mark. When Jeff Jarret was running the place it turned a profit.

Despite Hogan and Bischoff's track record, Dixie gave them power. They destroyed TNA's only unique selling point, the six sided ring. Bischoff took to Twitter to insult fans who complained about it. Remember that god awful Hall of Fame ring angle? The company is not profitable anymore. The Carter family have pulled their financial backing because of this. They have no leverage on the network, hence the horrible Rampage/Tito angle to publicise Belator. Tell me how a TV deal is important again?

ROH doesn't have a TV deal but are profitable and pay more money than TNA. You can't defend the company at this point, I say again this isn't about the talent. The reason you probably find ROH boring is because they focus on the matches and the technicality and ability of the performers in the ring instead of cheap crowd pops from over the hill WWE hall of famers. ROH also gets a better attendance than TNA, but yeah they are small time because the don't have a TV deal.

The talent that are there are sidelined for over the hill wresters and WWE cast offs. Despite having arguably the best roster in the world at one point they concentrated on WWE's cast offs. They deserve better than that. TNA are obsessed with being like WWE and instead of making themselves the real alternative they've made themselves a poor man's version. The talent I love, the company I have lost all respect for.

I'm not a stoner by the way, /wooo/ is the biggest online wrestling community on the internet and a great place to get access to stuff you wouldn't normally see like Mexican wrestling. They get about 500 people in the tubes on a Monday and Thursday night. That's exactly like saying anyone who has ever visited 4chan is a Jap obsessed anime fan, because it started as an anime discussion site.

How can you say that TNA talent wouldn't have anywhere to go? They will go where the money is and that is anywhere but TNA. WWE would pick up Robert Roode in a fucking heartbeat, they would also take on Chris Daniels as a trainer if he wanted the job. He is well into his 40s now, so he might.

Samoa Joe and AJ Styles are too big to go to WWE without a rebranding, because WWE will fear TNA chants, but the brutal truth is the average wrestling American fan has no idea TNA exists.

They have a lot of talent that has already done stints in Japan and ROH and those companies would take them back no questions asked.

>>5243

>You are labouring under the delusion that TNA are actual competition.

Why aren't they competition? Because they're not as successful as WWE? If that's your definition of competition in the business sector, then BT has no competition. Complete nonsense.

>TNA have been getting a 1.0 for a long time. They have a hardcore of fans, of which I am one.

Really? You don't sound like one.

>Nothing that Dixie carter has done to try and improve the brand has worked, that number has stayed the same.

But you think TV contracts aren't important for wrestling promotions. Why are you suddenly using ratings as a measure of success? Seems strange.

>Dixie is a money mark. When Jeff Jarret was running the place it turned a profit.

How do you know that lad? Did the internet tell you? If he was making a profit why did he sell the company? The truth is, you don't know how much profit TNA made under Jarrett.

>They destroyed TNA's only unique selling point, the six sided ring.

Oh please. Should they also bring back the women in cages? That'd be unique.

>The company is not profitable anymore. The Carter family have pulled their financial backing because of this.

Yet more internet rumours. I suppose you also believe they're about to sell TNA off, despite recently making Dixie Carter an on screen heel character and introducing Ethan Carter III.

>They have no leverage on the network, hence the horrible Rampage/Tito angle to publicise Belator. Tell me how a TV deal is important again?

Firstly, you're assuming TNA were somehow unhappy with the Belator arrangement. Secondly, do you really think WWE wants to produce three hours of Raw every Monday? They are probably doing so at the behest of the USA Network. All production companies have to give a little leeway to get their shows on a TV network. Wrestling is no different.

>ROH doesn't have a TV deal but are profitable and pay more money than TNA.

Again, more baseless internet speculation. You don't know how much TNA pays their talent or if they make a profit. I'd be surprised if ROH makes that sort of information public, so you're just pulling this stuff out of the arse of the internet wrestling community.

>ROH blah blah blah..

Look lad, I'm not saying that ROH is unimportant in the wrestling industry, because they are important. Very important. They are one of the few great breeding grounds for future talent. But they are also a business and businesses are always looking to expand. Are you really telling me the ROH owners wouldn't jump at the chance to get a national TV deal?

>TNA are obsessed with being like WWE

I disagree. They are similar, but there are also quite a few differences that you are deliberately ignoring in order to prove a point. They may be subtle differences, but they are no less important. Of course, subtlety isn't always an internet wrestling fan's strong point.

>I'm not a stoner by the way, /wooo/ is the biggest online wrestling community on the internet and a great place to get access to stuff you wouldn't normally see like Mexican wrestling. They get about 500 people in the tubes on a Monday and Thursday night.

500 hundred huh? Wow. What the fuck are Vince and Dixie thinking with this whole television nonsense? But seriously, you fail to grasp the basic fact that most of the shows you watch on /wooo/ were made for television in the first place. If these companies didn't have TV contracts in their countries of origin, you wouldn't be able to watch them (illegally, by the way) on your shitty little chan board.

But if you really think TV isn't important to wrestling as a whole, then I've got five words for ya.. World of Sport wrestling cancelled.

>>5244
>>5243

>Arguing about wrestling

You losers sound like the type of saps I used to beat up every day in secondary school

>>5243

Oh sorry, I missed a bit..

>How can you say that TNA talent wouldn't have anywhere to go?

Easy. ROH can't afford to take them all on. They've only got so much money and space on their roster. They'd probably have to drop some of their current talent just to make room. That's hardly ideal. The other option is to move to Japan. No thanks.

>WWE would pick up Robert Roode in a fucking heartbeat

You must be fucking shroomin' lad. He had the chance to go to WWE when his contract expired recently. If WWE wanted him, they would have picked him up then. The same goes for the rest of the TNA roster, with a few exceptions.

>but the brutal truth is the average wrestling American fan has no idea TNA exists.

Seriously lad, cut back on the drugs, kay?

>>5245

>You losers sound like the type of saps I used to beat up every day in secondary school

If you'd paid more attention in school, you'd know what a full stop is.

>>5247
The sentence hadn't ended, it was a dramatic pause

I didn't think anyone seriously cared about this. It isn't even a real sport as it's all just bad soap acting and terrible cheesy scripting.

>>5248
Do all your sentences end with dramatic pauses?

>>5250

Maybe he's a professional wrestler? He dun gone learn dat good and proper in actin' class he took one day.

>>5250
Of course

>>5251

>No thanks.

This was his reply when mentioning moving to Japan, so it definitely seems like he has an audibly grinding axe.

It's well documented by former TNA talent how horrible the working conditions there are unless you're a top guy, this isn't rumour mill stuff in the slightest and no amount of ad hominem and insulting someone's internet browsing habits will change that.

I'm shocked at reading that reply, actually. It's been a while since I seen someone "go there", as you have to be pretty much frothing at the mouth not to see the irony of insulting someone for using an imageboard on an imageboard.

David Meltzer is the only one resembling a legitimate wrestling journalist in the world and he has huge former WWE talents among his previous sources.

Steve Austin was one of his guys on the inside while he was at WWE. Austin has confirmed that, they are good friends.

Meltzer has a lot of detractors, due to his Japan-centric mindset, but you will very seldom see his integrity as a journalist being attacked. It stands to reason he would have a source in TNA.

Meltzer has reported many of the things mentioned in this thread about TNA.

Make of that what you will.

>>5253

>This was his reply when mentioning moving to Japan, so it definitely seems like he has an audibly grinding axe.

Eh? I was referring to the state of the Japanese economy. It wouldn't be top on my list of countries to move to, especially if I was getting my arse kicked every night in a wrestling ring.

>It's well documented by former TNA talent how horrible the working conditions there are unless you're a top guy, this isn't rumour mill stuff in the slightest and no amount of ad hominem and insulting someone's internet browsing habits will change that.

I don't know what point you're trying to make here. It would help if you actually referenced the parts of my post you're replying to so I could understand the context. You've been hanging around 420chan too much lad.

I'm sure wrestling for a pittance isn't much fun. Tell that to the wrestlers that willingly do it. Tell that to the likes of Jeff Hardy and Edge, because they did the same in the WWE back in the nineties. You know why they did it? Because they wanted national exposure. You only get that by working for a wrestling promotion with a national TV contract.

>I'm shocked at reading that reply, actually.

I'm sure you are. You're probably far more used to discussing this sort of thing with the usual group of internet wrestling fans. You all sit around tutting at the state of mainstream US wrestling and fantasise about how much better it would be if you were in charge.

>It's been a while since I seen someone "go there", as you have to be pretty much frothing at the mouth not to see the irony of insulting someone for using an imageboard on an imageboard.

Have you been posting on britfa.gs for long? We insult people for using other image boards all the time. In fact, we insult people for using this image board. Don't be so sensitive lad.

>>5254

>Steve Austin was one of his guys on the inside while he was at WWE. Austin has confirmed that, they are good friends.

And I'm sure Austin was a reliable source, but they're not all going to be reliable. The problem is, because we don't know who Meltzer's sources are, we can't tell which information is reliable and which is not. Let's face it, wrestlers aren't exactly immune to spreading rumour and gossip themselves.

>>5255

I don't post on 420chan m8. Different bloke. You probably scared him off with your abhorrent approach to your replies. No one, as of yet, has dropped to your level; you are being a massive knob about things and trying to undermine other peoples opinions for some reason.

I suspect you might be a bit ignorant to the definition of an ad hominem argument as you are still insulting people and coming across as a not very likeable person.

Perhaps have a word with yourself.

>>5255

In an age where the WWE pay all their talent a living wage, impliment a Senate mandated wellness policy (albeit not entirely transparently) and have a state of the art training facility with some of the best workers that have ever lived training new guys to work safely, you think it's acceptable for a company like TNA to operate the way it does? Or have you forgotten that they fired a guy that broke his neck in one of their rings, without even covering the guys medical expenses, after telling him and the world they would look after him and he would have a job for life?

There is no way you can argue that objectively, you must be trolling. The fact that conditions for guys used to be bad, doesn't mean the carnie bullshit is justified.

Now, don't get me wrong, if something like that happened to a guy on the indies he wouldn't have much in the way of support unless it was from fans or other wrestlers. Now tell me, how are TNA better than any of those indy feds? Because they have a TV deal? Give me a break! They are a horrible company.

Also, on a bemused note, are you seriously insulting a guy for visiting a site for talking about a thing he enjoys when you enjoy the same thing? You appear to be the one "on drugs" m8.

>>5256

>I don't post on 420chan m8. Different bloke. You probably scared him off with your abhorrent approach to your replies.

I can only assume that you don't post here much. Seriously m8, if you can't handle a bit of well deserved sarcasm, then maybe you should get mummy and daddy to reactivate the filter on your browser. How's that John Cena desktop background working out for you by the way?

>I suspect you might be a bit ignorant to the definition of an ad hominem argument as you are still insulting people and coming across as a not very likeable person.

Hmm.. I replied to your post point by point, offering a considered counter-argument each time in order to move the debate on. You've just ignored my reply entirely, instead basing your whole riposte on how I'm a nasty person and 'a massive knob'. Are you going to compare me to Hitler next?

>>5258
You really are a cunt.

>>5258


>I replied to your post point by point, offering a considered counter-argument each time in order to move the debate on.

>How's that John Cena desktop background working out for you by the way?

Would you like me to quote every other example of your cuntery, because it's lenthy.

>>5258

>sarcasm

U wot?

>>5258

No one is replying to your points because you're insulting them, you insufferable tit.

You can bawl and bawl all you like about how long x has posted y, but it's a smoke screen for your dogshit personality. Grow up you horrible, horrible human being.

.gs is not your personal punching bag and we most certainly are not your peers if this is how you choose to conduct yourself.

>>5259

>You really are a cunt.

Then why don't you fuck me with your cock of counter-argument? Or can't you get it up?

>>5260

>Would you like me to quote every other example of your cuntery, because it's lenthy.

Not as 'lenthy' as that last word should be.

>>5261

>sarcasm
>U wot?

Hello yanklad.

>>5262

>No one is replying to your points because you're insulting them, you insufferable tit.

Don't mistake that sentence for sarcasm folks, he's being entirely serious.

>You can bawl and bawl all you like about how long x has posted y, but it's a smoke screen for your dogshit personality. Grow up you horrible, horrible human being.

I vaguely remember something being posted about ad hominem or something.. I dunno.

>.gs is not your personal punching bag and we most certainly are not your peers if this is how you choose to conduct yourself.

The only way I'd be your peer is if I was conceived a few hundred yards from a nuclear weapons test.

I would like to remind you all that there's nothing I love more than a good pozzing, if you could put me in touch with any beefy pozzers it would be much appreciated.

>>5265

Insufferable tit/cunt/horrible person here..

>I would like to remind you all that there's nothing I love more than a good pozzing, if you could put me in touch with any beefy pozzers it would be much appreciated.

I shall certainly try ladm8. Apologies for all this wrestling related cockery. I'm sure it's not up your passage of interest. I bet you're sick of swallowing my sweaty, beefy grappling nonsense. Willy!

>>5263
What counter-argument? I am not arguing with you. I am just telling you that you are a cunt. That kind that are best off dead. Off yourself lad.

>>5266
If you yourself are a beefy pozzer then my passage of interest is gaping.

>>5268

You can do anything you want to me.. Just please save me from these dribbling fucking internet wrestling fans!!! PLLEEAASSEE!!!!!

>>5263>>5264

Thought it might be worth offering my view here. I'm actually coming from the opposite direction, I never cared for wrestling as a kid. It looked obnoxious, campy and insultingly fake. I was part of a generation that grew idolising our boxers. It never occurred to me until later in life that it isn't enjoyed as a combat sport, it sat on the fence between stunt work and open theatre. It took a few years of being exposed to different kinds of social convention for me to understand why people might enjoy wrestling, and I think I can see it now. It's like a fantasy sustained on behalf of both competitors and the crowd, with an element of unpredictability and ad libbing. It's like the closest live action counterpart to the sort of good versus evil melee you'd see in comic books and action films, but with a great degree of real life athleticism in the mix.

It still doesn't appeal to me personally, bit I've lost my cynicism about it. Reading intelligent discussion from fans helps this a lot.

>>5271 personally, working a very stressful job I enjoy it as complete escapism. When you work in very real and serious situations, watching ubsurd pretend fighting with silly storylines is the perfect antidote

(A good day to you Sir!)

>>When you work in very real and serious situations, watching ubsurd pretend fighting with silly storylines

In 3 words:

Project support analyst
Community support officer
BBC3 comedy writer
Call centre manager

etc

>>5272
>Ubsurd
...really...?

>>5274
Now you're just being pnicati

I hate to say I told you so, but...

>>5311

He's actually booked up to late April I think. It's part of an AJ Styles tour.

>I hate to say I told you so, but...

Don't be so sure lad. With Magnus only just winning the TNA title, it wouldn't make sense to bring AJ back straight away. They'll want to build Magnus as a credible heel champion and then have Styles return as a legitimate title contender.

In the meantime, AJ can go on his tour and earn some money for himself, while also promoting the AJ Styles brand around the country, which is good for both parties. Remember, it was speculated less than a week ago that AJ had actually re-signed with TNA, so this could all be part of the plan.

I'm just speculating of course, but speculation and rumour make up about 90 percent of most 'legitimate' wrestling news sites, so make of this what you will.

>>5312

This sounds far too optimistic; sip the koolade don't gulp.

ROH are TNA's biggest competitor in terms of revenue. They do similar numbers for PPVs, ROH actually attract a bigger crowd at shows. There is no way this is a work, not if he is working ROH shows. If he was touring smaller feds with links to TNA then yeah, I could totally see it, but this means he is gone. I just can't see it being any other way without serious changes to how TNA book their talent and AJ is the only one advertised as working Indies so it doesn't seem likely.

Jeff Jarret has left too, athough he still owns a stake in the company he is no longer an employee.

I'm worried for the future of the company. They've let their biggest home grown draw go because they think the likes of Sting will draw, which is mind boggling. Sting could draw at Wrestlemania against Taker I think, but that is about it.

Things are getting bad. I read the other day that ODB has to work at a Hooters to subsidise her wage, but they were paying Hogan Millions; madness.

Magnus being champion is the only good news to come out of TNA recently. He is brilliant. I think this makes him the first British World Champion, but I don't know.

>>5313

I just googled that ODB hooters thing.

Oaft... She can hip toss me any day.

>>5314

Also, it isn't true. Halloween costume clearly taken out of context.

>>5313

>This sounds far too optimistic; sip the koolade don't gulp.

Start with an insult. Nice. As for being optimistic, he hasn't signed a long term deal with ROH or any other promotion, and he'll be wrestling for lots of different indy companies over that period. He'll make far more money over a shorter period of time than he would signing a long term deal with ROH.

He may well have signed a new deal with TNA that is worth less money than his previous contract, with this tour actually being part of the deal so he can make up for the shortfall.

As I said in my previous post, I don't think it would be smart to bring him back straight away anyway. Let Magnus, Dixie, Spud and EC3 build up plenty of heel heat for a few months first.

If true, this would actually be a smart deal, but this is TNA we're talking about, and they haven't always made the smartest decisions in the past, so maybe I am being overly optimistic. But things could be changing..

>They've let their biggest home grown draw go because they think the likes of Sting will draw

You're going off on a bit of a tangent there mate. Sting has nothing to do with the AJ Styles situation. He's not a factor at all.

>Things are getting bad.

I think you're being far too pessimistic. They may have to cut costs from time to time, but that happens quite often in any business. It certainly doesn't mean they are about to fold. It could actually result in TNA becoming a leaner and more efficient business. I think the days of spending millions on the likes of Hogan are over, and I think most people would say good riddance.

>Magnus being champion is the only good news to come out of TNA recently. He is brilliant. I think this makes him the first British World Champion, but I don't know.

Yes, for a major US promotion at least. I really enjoyed the promo he cut after winning the title. It was almost Flair-esque in it's delivery. I also like Dixie's heel character, she really does come across as a stuck up bitch.

>>5319

I work in a brothel.

>>5316 You have to be the only optimist in the world as far as TNA goes. Horrible story lines, poor matches, most of the talent gone. Last I heard Billy Corgan was going to buy TNA.

>>5323

>You have to be the only optimist in the world as far as TNA goes.

That's because unlike most internet wrestling fans, I don't take the usual rumours and tittle-tattle, blow them out of all proportion and jump to the same ridiculous conclusions. I jump to my own ridiculous conclusions.

>Horrible story lines, poor matches

Let me guess, you don't actually watch it, do you?

>most of the talent gone.

And now I'm certain you don't watch it.

>Last I heard Billy Corgan was going to buy TNA.

Remember my remarks about silly internet rumours? Corgan has denied trying to buy TNA. Dixie Carter's mother has denied that they are looking to sell TNA. If you actually watched it, you'd know that they are running a major Carter-based storyline, in which Dixie has set up a stable of heel wrestlers to control the TNA World title. It wouldn't make sense to run such an angle if they were looking to sell the company to a new owner.

>>5324 so the abyss/ Joseph parks storyline running for 52 years and aces and 8s haven't been silly storylines? The only thing that set them apart for years was the women's devision and now they've all been sacked or left.

Whilst I don't agree with direct insults on an anonymous message board, reading your replies you really do have an arrogant, belittling and belligerent tone to all of your posts.

>>5325 sorry, division. Please don't ban me. It's this bastard iphone.

>>5325

>so the abyss/ Joseph parks storyline running for 52 years and aces and 8s haven't been silly storylines?

I don't think so. They're certainly no sillier than any other wrestling storyline I've ever witnessed. I haven't watched WWE in a few years, but judging by your response I'm assuming their storylines have become a lot more highbrow. Does Daniel Bryan conceal a copy of War and Peace in his beard that he uses as a weapon to bore his opponents into submission?

>Whilst I don't agree with direct insults on an anonymous message board, reading your replies you really do have an arrogant, belittling and belligerent tone to all of your posts.

I could warm my entire house with the heat I'm receiving from these teary wrestling fans.

>>5327

>I could warm my entire house with the heat I'm receiving from these teary wrestling fans.

As a silent observer until now, through fear of having my opinion on the matter stomped on by your tantrum like replies, I can say with a fair amount of objectivity that you are the one that appears to be throwing the toys out of the pram at the mere mention that TNA may somehow be flawed.

Which, of course, encourages people to call you out on your behaviour.

You're really condescending. I really wish you would have a word with yourself, people not liking things you like shouldn't bother a normal person this much.

>>5328

Seriously, if WWE want to develop heels with huge, stellar-like heat, all they need to do is have them post about how much they love TNA on a wrestling forum.

I notice that, once again, none of my actual arguments about wrestling have been challenged. I can only assume you agree with what I'm saying, it's just the way I say it that makes you react like a granny watching World of Sport.

Seriously lad, have you ever read a thread on /pol/? If you post something I disagree with, I will attempt to tell you why I think you're wrong. If you say something incredibly stupid, then you're going to experience the rough side of my sarcasm. If you don't like this, then I suggest you go back to posting on your regular wrestling forums, where they post the standard anti-TNA rhetoric while trying not to eat their keyboards.

Sage because I never realised how passive-aggressive wrestling fans are.

>>5329

>debate me

Mate, get a grip. This isn't about who is smarter.

What anti-TNA rhetoric has been posted? You've posted vitriolic reply after vitriolic reply whenever someone has expressed a perfectly valid opinion you happen not to agree with. You don't have any evidence that they are wrong, but instead of accepting differing opinions you've just attacked people until they started to get annoyed by it and call you a knob or whatever. I also noticed that half of your posts in which you make these statements like telling one lad to go back to his John Cena wallpaper or insulting "internet wrestling fans" of which you are one yourself, evidenced by your posting here about the subject, have mysteriously vanished since the last time I had a read of this thread. Feeling foolish?

I have made one post in which I didn't mention anything about wrestling forums or even mentioned anything about what I think about TNA, what the actual fuck is your deal? I cannot fathom why you are so surprised people are calling you a cunt.

Seek help.

For the record, I watch TNA every Sunday and what got me into it was the Knockouts division. I've not been a wrestling fan for that long, but it hooked me big time and I love reading about the business and how it works now and TNA did that not WWE or any other company. They don't have a division anymore though, it's 4 people. One is the bodyguard of another, so it's actually 3. I find it harder to justify tuning in every week, because they keep letting people leave. The entire Knockouts division has been decimated because of Eric Bischoff. It's a disgrace, Daphne had to take them to court. She has confirmed in several different interviews with the likes of Colt Cabana et al on podcasts how terrible it became to work there.

This brings me on to Dixie. Jesse Sorenson being told by her he was like a Son to her, only to fire him and then ask him to lie about his release and say he asked to be let go. Promised his mother in hospital she would take care of his bills and didn't. WWE can manage it, but the billionaire Carter family can't? Confirmed by him and his Mother in an interview. That alone almost soured me conmpletely to the company.

The fact she was building up a womens division that was resulting in the highest rated segments of shows (all sourceable data) and Amazing Kong and Gail Kim main eventing an Impact in a No DQ match fighting through the crowd and shit, only to bury the entire division because they were outshining the men and Eric is a misogynist pig. Disgusting, why no one is complaining about this more boggles the mind!

That is a gripe with western wrestling as a whole rather than TNA, but they were changing things and Dixie listened to a confirmed company killer rather than do what she thought was best.

Don't even get me started on WWE... Where being attractive will probably ensure you get put in the Hall of Fame.

I couldn't give a shit which company is pushing what heel stable. All I want is a legitimate womens division with relatable characters which I can watch in a language I understand. It would also be nice to be able to watch TNA without feeling like I'm watching a stage show inspired by a South East Asian sweat shop.

I mean really, how can you defend practises that are harmful to the wellbeing of their employees?

That straight to the point enough for you?

>>5330
Oh shit. I've until now missed the opportunity to post this masterpiece.

https://www.youtube.com/v/4feIwig2AtA

>>5330

>I also noticed that half of your posts in which you make these statements like telling one lad to go back to his wallpaper or insulting "internet wrestling fans" of which you are one yourself, evidenced by your posting here about the subject, have mysteriously vanished since the last time I had a read of this thread. Feeling foolish?

You mean this one? >>5258 I haven't deleted a single post mate. Maybe you should learn to use the search function in your browser before you go accusing people of deleting posts. Who's feeling foolish now, yanklad?

>What anti-TNA rhetoric has been posted?

Read the thread again. If you're able to miss entire posts I have no confidence in your ability to follow this or any other discussion.

>Seek help.

Kiss my hairy arse.

>I mean really, how can you defend practises that are harmful to the wellbeing of their employees?
>For the record, I watch TNA every Sunday

You've just destroyed your own argument there. You believe the way they treat their talent is deplorable, yet you continue to watch. That makes you a hypocrite. Did you stop watching WWE after the death of Owen Hart? I fucking doubt it.

>Don't even get me started on WWE...

Stop watching it then. I haven't watched it in over three years.

>>5332

Never has a monitor and keyboard been more spittle flecked; ape like fists smashing furiously to the beat of a broken heart.

Impressive, ragelad.

>>5333

>Impressive, ragelad.

Not me m7. I'm full of gaiety. In fact, I'm gayer than Pat Patterson in a pair of pink tights. Sage because oooh ducky!

>>5332 so if someone slates tna and doesn't watch it you say they have no grounds to criticise it. If they do watch it and criticise it then they're hypocrites? This is getting silly. Can we please just get back to stories about randy Orton shitting in a handbag?

>>5335

>If they do watch it and criticise it then they're hypocrites?

I didn't say that and you know it. If he is criticising the company on moral grounds then it makes no logical sense for him to continue watching their show, unless he's a hypocrite.

>This is getting silly.

I agree. Would you like to suggest a more sensible subject?..

>Can we please just get back to stories about randy Orton shitting in a handbag?

Oh.

http://www.prowrestling.com/aj-on-fans-not-believing-hes-gone-from-tna-bad-influence-impact/

>Former TNA star AJ Styles recently spoke with F4Wonline.com and brought up how frustrated he is with many fans still thinking he’s still signed with TNA. AJ said he’s a free agent and said those who continue to claim that this is part of a storyline will never apologize once they learn it’s real. AJ also said no bridges were burned with TNA. He said he may return there in the future but expects to be appearing for Ring of Honor for a while.

Okay lads, which one of you is AJ? Just for the record Allen, I apologise. But let's face it, if it is all a work, you're hardly going to admit it, are you?

>>5336

It may just be me, but I got the distinct impression that poster wasn't a he.

>>5338

What has my gender got to do with anything?

>>5339
CHECK YOUR PRIVILEGE!!1111!

>>5339

>If he is criticising

You started it m8.

>>5341

Eh? Weh? Meh.

Just finished watching first ever TNA show (NWA-TNa). I'm at a loss for how depressingly far that promotion has fallen. If it had carried on at that quality/never sold to Dixie Carter it could have one day at least been a viable alternative to the WWE. Now it's just a joke and, quite frankly, it's amazing it hasn't folded yet.

Bah gawd that was a hot crowd!

*SPOILERS!*

Batista got booed from the fucking building for winning the Royal Rumble. Daniel Bryan Chants rang eternal. Vindication for my faith in the B+ midget is sweet indeed. He is now their biggest face by miles.

They weren't sure and just booed the final 3 guys in the Rumble, Sheamus, Batista and Roman Reigns, but as soon as Sheamus went over the ropes Roman Reigns chants started. Literally anyone but Batista. But that is what they got...

Wrestlemania is going to be fun this year! The main event is going to be shat on by the crowd because it is a bout between two guys (Orton vs Batista) that the crowd want to lose, and now in Batista's case despise. Hopefully things change, though.

Worth the buy for the crowds reaction alone.

>>5357

A PPV so bad it made the BBC! (spoilers in link)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/25911039

Anyone else noticed that every recent wrestlemania appears to have a 'purple aki' poster in the crowd?

P.S - Ultimate Warrior died http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2022449-former-wwe-star-ultimate-warrior-passes-away-at-age-54

>>5520

I can't work out of this is real or not yet, but if it is that is terrible. I was just watching Monday's RAW last night and I kept thinking "the guy looks like if he's going to drop dead if he runs / shakes the ropes". Anyone else see him holding his chest on Sunday night? I tried to tell myself that he was just doing the "you're in my heart" thing, but it looked like he was in a bit of pain. Christ.

inb4 this is all a work and he pops out of a casket and shakes undertaker back to life @ extreme rules

>>5520

That promo on RAW felt like a goodbye, but I brushed it off because Warrior is an intense guy at the best of times.

I think he knew it was coming. He has been held together by animosity and rage for the past 20 years and now I think he was finally at peace with his legacy, now that it was being enshrined and treated with dignity.

He got one last day in the Sun.

"And tonight I think he might be able to use that aching old arm one more time to push the sun back up in the sky and give us one more day of summer."

R.I.P Warrior.

>>5522

> He has been held together by animosity and rage for the past 20 years and now I think he was finally at peace with his legacy, now that it was being enshrined and treated with dignity.

I was never a warrior fan, but that was quite moving.

WWE did put outa documentary a few years ago that was basically nothing, but slagging him off. Some of it was definitely justified, but he was a huge name back in the day even if his promos were unintelligible.
http://www.veoh.com/watch/v17875888nDwazh4G?h1=The+Self+Destruction+Of+The+Ultimate+Warrior

>>5522

He's not a fucking wizard, he's a dude who got beat up for living. Jeez.

>>5524
Warrior was very different from a lot of people in the wrestling business, which is why he got a lot of disrespect from people in the industry. There's a lot of politicking and backstage drama, and because Warrior wasn't interested in all the schmoozing and was quite vocal about other wrestlers, he got a lot of hate as seen in the documentary.

It's fortunate that Triple H has more power now, as he extends olive branches a lot more than Vince did. It's why Bruno Sammartino agreed to be inducted into the Hall of Fame after years of refusal, and it's probably why Warrior finally got respect and recognition for his talent. In the last year, Ultimate Warrior has been heavily featured in WWE 2K14, he's had a new (less mean spirited) DVD collection of his matches, and he's been inducted into the Hall Of Fame and appeared on some of the biggest wrestling shows of the year.

I like to think that Warrior died willingly, like Roy Batty in Blade Runner. Knowing he is no longer a target of derision, and instead a respected legend, he could finally rest peacefully.

>>5525

Trying to explain wrestling to people who don't "get" it is almost impossible.

Which is fine, not everyone will get it and nor should they; it isn't for everyone. However, there is something in everyone's life that they hold in their heart above all else.

For some, it is books. For some, it is sport.

For some, it is wrestling.