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>> No. 5761 Anonymous
8th October 2014
Wednesday 9:35 pm
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Evening, Mumsnet lads.

I'm running low on ideas of what to read to my son [7]. We're working our way through the Mr Gum books and if I can't think of something when we're finished my other half will probably subject him to Enid Blyton. We've read The Hobbit and all of Ronald Dahl's books for children but I don't know where to go next, possibly Harry Potter (although I've never read them so I don't know what they're like) or maybe something by Terry Deary as he's obsessed with ancient Egypt. Goosebumps?

I'd be grateful for any tips. Any books you were particularly fond of from your childhood?
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>> No. 6616 Anonymous
11th July 2017
Tuesday 10:39 pm
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>>6613
10 eh? You gonna start him on Animal Farm and all that stuff mentioned above?

If not, at least give him Boris the Tomato. I love reading it even as an adult, both because it's actually quite hilarious and a great satire of totalitarian fascism.
>> No. 6617 Anonymous
12th July 2017
Wednesday 1:45 pm
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>>6613
You might try "Wolf Brother" and the series Chronicles of Ancient Darkness by Michelle Paver.
>> No. 6618 Anonymous
12th July 2017
Wednesday 5:41 pm
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Thanks, lads.

>>6616
>You gonna start him on Animal Farm and all that stuff mentioned above?

I tried him with Animal Farm a year or so ago but he wasn't interested. It's been a long time since I've read it, but I think the first couple of chapters are a little on the dry side.

We've read a few of the books suggested in this thread, with Artemis Fowl being the clear favourite.
>> No. 6619 Anonymous
12th July 2017
Wednesday 6:15 pm
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>>6618
Fair enough, that's Orwell for you. Boris the Tomato may have similar themes - talking vegetables in a Kent greenhouse with plans of world domination - but it's a lot more accessible. I love it.
>> No. 6642 Anonymous
10th September 2017
Sunday 3:45 pm
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>>5761 can fully recommend
"His dark materials" by Phillip Pullman.

"His Dark Materials is an epic trilogy of fantasy novels by Philip Pullman consisting of Northern Lights, The Subtle Knife, and The Amber Spyglass"

So so good. Nothing like the film.
>> No. 6648 Anonymous
10th September 2017
Sunday 10:12 pm
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>>6642
Fucking Golden Compass bullshit. IT'S NOT A COMPASS HOLLYWOOD, DID YOU EVEN READ THE BOOK
>> No. 6650 Anonymous
10th September 2017
Sunday 10:24 pm
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Since this is up top again, I'm going to repeat my support for the Bartimaeus trilogy (>>5762) because they were so much fun when I was young, its about a young twatty kid in a pseudo-alternative reality where the British empire is still on the go, and a certain class of people (aristocracy types) can summon different levels of imps, genies, etc. It's about this kid who gives it a shot at a young age and his adventures with this sassy Djinn called Bartimaeus and how they end up getting involved in higher level politics (that makes it sound dull but it's really not).

Please give it a shot, I might buy the first again since I've lost it. It's not that well known a series but it was my favourite series at the time. I think I read it when I was about 12.

Also, Artemis Fowl. Rich supervillain child gets involved with a (literally) underground civilisation of super technologically advanced 'fairies' who have kept themselves secret from humanity for millenia. He runs into a fairy who is a newbie officer for the L.E.P. Recon unit.

Great stuff.
>> No. 6652 Anonymous
11th September 2017
Monday 12:38 am
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>>6650
Didn't realise this is the third time I've wanked over this series, sorry. Whinge.
>> No. 6656 Anonymous
11th September 2017
Monday 7:19 pm
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>>6648
To be fair to hollywood, the religious messages in the book were so offensive to most of America (and enough of the rest of the world) that the only options they had were to massively deviate from the book, or not make it at all.
The correct decision would have been to not make the film at all.
>> No. 6667 Anonymous
22nd September 2017
Friday 4:52 pm
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>>6642>>6648
OP here again. Laddo came home with one of those book fair flyers. Apparently they're making a His Dark Materials TV series.
>> No. 6668 Anonymous
22nd September 2017
Friday 10:06 pm
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>>6667
Let's hope they don't fuck it up.
>> No. 6670 Anonymous
22nd September 2017
Friday 10:19 pm
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>>6668
Don't be silly, of course they will.
>> No. 6671 Anonymous
27th September 2017
Wednesday 9:25 pm
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>>5761

I really enjoyed the Hungry Cities Chronicles (I.e. Mortal Engines + about five sequels)- All about a basically steampunk dystopian future where cities are jacked up on a giant sets of tracks and engaged in 'municipal darwinism'. I thought it was wicked sick when I was about 10.

I'll support the Wind Singer series, and you should definately go with His Dark Materials before year 5/6 as they offer a pretty solid critique and/or narrative regarding religion at a time when those ideas count (I say that from experience).

On Harry Potter - I think you need to start those at a bit of a later date, purely because they pretty rapidly mature from kids on an adventure to moody teens being moody - something I actually found to be pretty awkward/dull by the final tomes, and I was reading these as they came out, at pretty much a similar age to the characters.
>> No. 6672 Anonymous
27th September 2017
Wednesday 9:29 pm
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>>6671
>I really enjoyed the Hungry Cities Chronicles (I.e. Mortal Engines + about five sequels)- All about a basically steampunk dystopian future where cities are jacked up on a giant sets of tracks and engaged in 'municipal darwinism'. I thought it was wicked sick when I was about 10.
I loved the first book when I was younger. For years I've been meaning to get round to reading the rest of the series.
>> No. 6673 Anonymous
27th September 2017
Wednesday 9:39 pm
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>>6672

Go for it - it meanders for a bit but from what I remember (I re-read it about 4 years ago) it ends a satisfying distance from where it begins.

Oh also, they've just wrapped up shooting for a film of the first book, due out 2018.
>> No. 6674 Anonymous
28th September 2017
Thursday 3:34 am
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>>6671
It's Mortal Engines, not 'Hungry Cities'. It'll be bloody sorcerers stones next.

They're making an Artemis Fowl film too. I have absolutely no idea how that will work, I'd put money on it being a disaster.
>> No. 6675 Anonymous
28th September 2017
Thursday 2:43 pm
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>>6671
Part of the reason I didn't carry on reading the series when I was younger is because of how despondent I was at the end of the first book that London was destroyed.
>> No. 6676 Anonymous
28th September 2017
Thursday 7:13 pm
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Going off on the horns of a furious tangent...
Anyone else ever get the thing where reminiscing about one thing automatically ties to a different thing because of two things happening at the same time in the past?
I first read mortal engines at the same time as listening to 40ft by Franz Ferdinand, now those two memories are stuck together in my head and a mention of the book always makes me think of that song.
>> No. 6677 Anonymous
28th September 2017
Thursday 7:13 pm
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>>6675
At least it's a happy ending.
>> No. 6678 Anonymous
29th September 2017
Friday 8:15 pm
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>>6674

Sorry slightly tilt this towards a cunt-off, but I was referring to the series, which is titled as such, cunt.

Upon further inspection of the Wiki, the series appears to be known to the Author as the 'Mortal Engines Quartet'. Cuntoff averted.
>> No. 6744 Anonymous
26th March 2018
Monday 8:51 pm
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OP here again.

I've decided it's time to introduce Laddo to Discworld via their "young adult" books, so I'll let you know what he thinks of it.
>> No. 6745 Anonymous
26th March 2018
Monday 9:00 pm
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>>6744
Tiffany Aching is one of Terry's best characters, if you're looking for a meatier segue after you're finished. The Wee Free Men will introduce him to Granny Weatherwax at the end, and you can jump off into her books from there, returning to Tiffany Aching for the heart breaking finale.
>> No. 6746 Anonymous
26th March 2018
Monday 9:12 pm
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>>6744
I loved that book when I were a lad.
>> No. 6747 Anonymous
26th March 2018
Monday 11:19 pm
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>>6746
Yeah but Maurice himself is a bit obnoxious if I recall. It's the rats who are all interesting characters in their own right.
>> No. 6748 Anonymous
26th March 2018
Monday 11:45 pm
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>>6747
Yep.
>> No. 6749 Anonymous
27th March 2018
Tuesday 1:55 pm
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>>6745

> Tiffany Aching is one of Terry's best characters

I'm not a Young Adult so my opinion probably doesn't count for much, but imo he Mary-Sued the hell out of her in a way that made the rapid and largely inexplicable social rises of Vimes and Von Lipwig to seem almost rational. The only book in the that sub-series I liked was Wintersmith, plot, characterisation, character growth, good stuff.


> , if you're looking for a meatier segue after you're finished. The Wee Free Men will introduce him to Granny Weatherwax at the end, and you can jump off into her books from there, returning to Tiffany Aching

You'd probably be better off working from Wee Free Men up to I shall wear Midnight or at least Wintersmith if you want to keep the city watch and Esk and so on out of the picture at first, then go back to the earlier witches books and work your way forward.

Jumping straight from a Mary Sue with an iron saucepan fairy tale like the wee free men back into books as early in the series as Equal Rites or even Wyrd Sisters would, imo, be too jarring.
>> No. 6750 Anonymous
27th March 2018
Tuesday 4:30 pm
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>>6749
The Nac Mac Feegle are to blame for her having major plot armour though, Rob Anybody is sworn to protect her with his afterlife.
>> No. 6751 Anonymous
12th April 2018
Thursday 9:06 pm
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Success, lads. He's asked if I'll buy him more Terry Pratchett books.
>> No. 6752 Anonymous
13th April 2018
Friday 12:15 am
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>>6751

Top lad that kid, then. We'll be here to quibble over what you read next although I'll probably cede to the other lad as I haven't read Pratchett to anyone but myself GNU Terry Pratchett.
>> No. 6753 Anonymous
13th April 2018
Friday 12:50 am
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>>6750

While I'm here:


I never really considered the NMF as plot armour for T because her plot armour comes directly from being the impossible heroine in a series of children's' novels.

We see this very early on when the queen of the elves, who would have defeated Granny Weatherwax herself in Lords and Ladies if sly old Nanny Ogg hadn't gone down the long mound and done a malcolm tucker on the King. You have to remember that whatever borrowing Granny did with the bees wasn't offensive in nature, it was purely to survive the Queen's attack while everything only went back to normal when the King turned up and said "c'mon lads, nough ching the night la les get haem for wuz forget wuz fukkin uber is fur".

Anyway, this basically undefeatable elven queen who had to be disposed of by way of subterfuge by two of the Ramtops' most powerful witches is then done away with by a 9yo with a frying pan.

Suspension of disbelief and all that, but they could have at least built her up over the books rather than having basically giving her powers beyond all the other witches right off the bat - he might have well slapped Glasses and a birthmark in the shape of her dead gran's old dead sheepdogs and called her Harriot Puking ("I'm puking when I go to bed and I'm puking when I wake up" - the dad was an alkie).

For what little it's worth, I think that T becoming the kelda, briefly, in the first book is more of a deus ex to keep the NMH around to provide comic relief between Pratchett's increasingly nonsensical multi-threaded plots with rushed and unsatisfactory conclusions (because hey Terry it's, like, October and we've got to go print 20 million copies of whatever you have sort of half ready before Christmas) and some of the worst pseudo-sexual innuendo that I've ever seen in a young adult series.

Anyway, yeah. Not a fan. But then I'm also not nine any more. Who knows, I might not find Narnia, the bible, and that tantric sex book of my mum's so interesting now as I did at nine years old either.



Sage definitely ticked for a old an getting stuck into the failings of a kids book series. Boo me.
>> No. 6757 Anonymous
4th May 2018
Friday 8:26 pm
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Disney have announced they are releasing an Artemis Fowl film next year, based on the first two books.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt3089630/

I'm really not sure about the casting. Judi Dench as Root, with Butler and Juliet both black.
>> No. 6758 Anonymous
4th May 2018
Friday 11:14 pm
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>>6757
Isn't Juliet the elf? Hmm. I don't mind the bodyguard being a burly black bloke, but elves are usually white. When you say black, do you actually mean exotic mystery meat that appeals to the global market?

Either way, it'll probably be watchable but I'm not holding out any hopes for it being Harry Potter tier wish fulfilment.
>> No. 6759 Anonymous
4th May 2018
Friday 11:29 pm
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>>6757

I can see Dench being a good Root, though I struggle to see why they felt the need to gender swap him, it's not like there aren't enough women/girls in the story or anything, with Holly and Juliet being co-leads, basically.

I'm not particularly bothered what colour Butler is but they chap they've gone with just doesn't look right. He's supposed to be an elite operative and described essentially Agent 47 but even more effective. This fella looks like a fat teddy bear.
>> No. 6761 Anonymous
5th May 2018
Saturday 1:00 am
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>>6759

>I can see Dench being a good Root

I just saw that out of context while scrolling and thought you meant root as in Australian slang.
>> No. 6762 Anonymous
5th May 2018
Saturday 2:46 am
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>>6757
It's Artemis that'll break it. Far too complicated a character for 99.999% of child actors.

Holly has been cast as a child actor which is bizarre, I always imagined her to be mid 20s, just an elf.
>> No. 6763 Anonymous
5th May 2018
Saturday 4:05 am
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>>6762

>Holly has been cast as a child actor which is bizarre, I always imagined her to be mid 20s, just an elf

From what I remember that was a huge part of her character, being older than Artemis and not putting up with his shit. She's a militarised police captain for fucks sake.
>> No. 6765 Anonymous
5th May 2018
Saturday 6:29 am
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>>6759
>I can see Dench being a good Root

It's been a while since I've read Artemis Fowl, but I'm fairly certain that a major part of Holly's character and her development was how she was the first female to make Captain in the LEPrecon and constantly feeling like she had to prove herself. Make the Commander female and you're pretty much having to rewrite Holly from scratch.

Also, it appears that they've cast the only person of Indian extraction playing a main role in the film as Foaly, i.e. the tech support. It seems bizarre to change the ethnicity and gender of other major characters and then to go and pander to a massive stereotype like that.
>> No. 6766 Anonymous
5th May 2018
Saturday 9:57 am
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>>6765
Everyone seems to have been horribly miscast. It's an exceedingly difficult film to make and nothing I've heard about it so far sounds right.

Let's talk about something else.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fupYIggOq38
>> No. 6767 Anonymous
6th May 2018
Sunday 6:08 am
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>>6766
Looks shit.
>> No. 6768 Anonymous
6th May 2018
Sunday 1:18 pm
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>>6766
Why... why was there the five second YouTube ad mini-trailer included at the start of the actual posted video? Such lazy fucks.
>> No. 6769 Anonymous
8th May 2018
Tuesday 10:11 pm
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>>6759
I'm working with some very hazy recollections of the Artemis Fowl series, but wasn't Domovoi/Butler (and by extent Juliet) heavily implied to be of Balkan-to-Middle-East ish extraction? Y'know, somewhere that used to be part of the Ottoman Empire, full of olive skin and dark hair. Fucking Georgia or Armenia or somewhere. A country with an appropriately violent and tragic backstory to produce someone as gruff as Butler.

Weirdly the only casting I can think of that fulfils my mental image of Butler is Dwayne 'The Rock' Johnson but only because he's meant to be an elite operative mountain with a deeply hidden fudgy heart. I realise I'm shit at casting for ethnicity.

Zero fucking idea on Holly or Artemis either. This film is going to be a fucking $130million disappointment from start to finish.
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8th May 2018
Tuesday 10:23 pm
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>>6769
>Weirdly the only casting I can think of that fulfils my mental image of Butler is Dwayne 'The Rock' Johnson but only because he's meant to be an elite operative mountain with a deeply hidden fudgy heart. I realise I'm shit at casting for ethnicity

Dave Bautista would fit the bill, off the top of my head.l
>> No. 6771 Anonymous
8th May 2018
Tuesday 10:34 pm
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>>6770
Yes.
>> No. 6772 Anonymous
8th May 2018
Tuesday 11:05 pm
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>>6770

He is also Puerto Rican and can act, fitting both diversity quotas and the basic expectations of an audience. Butler is a nuanced character and Dave used to work for a security firm and was a night club bouncer, he is actually perfect.
>> No. 6773 Anonymous
9th May 2018
Wednesday 12:48 am
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>>6769
I always thought of Butler as Pierluigi Collina.
>> No. 6780 Anonymous
4th August 2018
Saturday 8:27 pm
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OP here again. I've slacked a bit on the Pratchett front, he's mainly been reading Horrible Histories and other history books recently, but I picked up The Bromeliad for 50p today so he's having a read of that at the minute.
>> No. 6781 Anonymous
5th August 2018
Sunday 12:01 am
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>>6780
He's a voracious little sod isn't he. Makes me feel ashamed for not reading anything.
>> No. 6782 Anonymous
5th August 2018
Sunday 12:26 am
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>>5761

> Evening, Mumsnet lads.


HAS PURPS DIED WTF
>> No. 6783 Anonymous
5th August 2018
Sunday 11:12 am
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>>6782

Not many people knew, but purps was actually non other than Barry Chuckle.

Truly a sad day for us all.
>> No. 6784 Anonymous
5th August 2018
Sunday 4:36 pm
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>>6781
Yeah. It's mainly at night time, so I'll usually have to go up a few times to tell him to stop sneakily reading when he should be asleep. His sister is older now than he was when I started this thread and she's the opposite; she'll read but, other than Roald Dahl, she only wants to read relatively simplistic stuff.

I'm off to my local curryhouse tonight, The Giant Peach. Their speciality is rolled dal.

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